Unguns in David's workshop

Now he's calling out BigDave,great 

Thank you ninXeno426 and BigDave.

Thank you for confirming my analysis Inquisitor Fifield and your humble back-track. I do appreciate your contribution.

No problem Ingeneiro 

Indeed that photo could be a key clue...

FOX never came out and explained those Codes, and the Logical explanation is a Time Frame of Events set in December 2104

Which if so would show the Night Time Security Event happened early on and we are looking at a movie set over 3 days

This Security Photo is thus from 10:05PM on December 5th 2104

And so the Back Burster Event happens 48 hours and 41 Minutes after

If there was any significance to those images and the codes, then it could imply a previous group did set down on Paradise some 24-36 hours prior to the Shot we see when Daniels, Oram and Walter etc step foot onto the surface.

We also have to ask how come that Lab... in OT... has like a Lamp?  David surely never salvaged it from the Lifeboat?

Surely Engineers dont have this Tech not the same, and surely the more Ancient Culture on Paradise dont have by coinsidence Lamps like we have on Earth?  Maybe they do?

Did David invent and create a Lamp from nothing... by using materials to re-invent it?

Or could it had been salvaged from the Headlights/Lamps we see in this image?

There is a lot to this movie we have not seen, that the 4Chan leaks etc can not explain...

We have now seen the Prop Room is actually a part of the movie and we have to ask how much of those Props that was leaked are in the movie...

This shot is in the movie... well this Table as we can see in the Trailer that the OT shot was taken from... so if the other leaked Tables are in the movie (which i wont post because in case Fox request a take down as we have not seen these things in the Trailers).

But they show various Experiments/Designs... that look like Babies as far as a Child/Baby infected by Black Goo etc.

Even if we throw those out and maybe they are not in the Trailer..

The Trailer confirms the Table in the image i posted here in this reply.. and in this we see... Human Baby/Fetus Skulls

Human or Humanoid Babies/Fetus dont grow on trees or out of no where... so we have to ask where have  these come from?

Unless they are meant to be Monkey like Alien Lifeforms... but these Skulls are 100% Human Baby/Fetus Skulls

As far as that room scene goes, Uli Latekefu is the man at the bottom the Xeno is poised to leap onto. The item to his right is presumably a gun of some type. As far as the item on the table, the image is too fuzzy to confirm or deny what it is.

The body on the table...eh...probably isn't Shaw. The image of hair on the head is probably just shadows. The skin is pale white indicating an Engineer, though screen shots of Benjamin Rigby's character after infection shows his skin being pale white and almost translucent, so it could be another Covenant member.

As far as the time stamped images, the bloody room is after Rigby's explosion. The cryo pods is BEFORE anything happens on the surface of the planet. The night time raid scene is puzzling. In the redband version of the second trailer, we seethe same nighttime back drop as Daniels is being attacked by the Rigby Neomorph, indicating this is AFTER the crew lands, the spore is released, Rigby is dragged back by Ejogo, the dropship is exploded by Seimetz, etc. 

No, I agree BigDave, humanoid babies don't grow on trees. David 8 may be up to things that may be too tough for both the movie and the trailer...things that may be inferred through drawings and obvious consequences shown (below).

Thank you Hicks/Hudson. The number sequence of the night raid is before the cryo pods. I'm still hung on that...and it's the reason why I believe there was another team that didn't touch down during daylight like the image below.

Yes, the images' assumed sequence is puzzling with the night shot and time/date stamp (thank you BigDave).

BigDave -  I posted a hypothesis a while ago that the Engineers had been abducting humans from Earth and bringing them there for experimentation. Maybe these skulls are left overs from a time long passed and David is studying them?

To your point Hicks/Hudson, also a question for BigDave...

Was anything teased out of the Project Prometheus Discover New Worlds? (http://www.projectprometheus.com/newworlds/)

This was in the notes section of one of the colonies.

"The colony was named after Captain Susan Morrison, whose deep space exploration vessel was lost in the Gliese system"

The colony furthest out in the list is POL-6362: JACOB-TELLIS and is 3249 light years out.

Weyland Industries could have put many ships in the Acheron LV-426 system. Prometheus Class ships set sail in 2073.

Did a crew, such as the lost crew of Captain Susan Morrison (a real person at NASA) get lost in the system that houses the planet Paradise?

Did David 8 cultivate eggs from the capture of another crew(s)?

Ingenerio you beat me to it. I was just going to suggest that perhaps we will get a small prologue in the beginning of the film that cuts between scenes of another crew landing on the planet and scenes of Peter Weyland and David 8 talking to each other.

That crew was either sent there by WY or picked up a distress beacon activated by David and/or Shaw.

Thank you Hicks/Hudson. I'm sure David 8's signal wasn't just for the Covenant. He would tell anyone what they wanted to hear if they would just come visit him.

Hicks/Hudson, Yutani Corporation may have known where Paradise was and that's where the name "Covenant" comes from in the newly (2099) formed corporation Weyland-Yutani Corporation.

Yutani Corporation could have brought that knowledge to the table (during acquisition) after losing the patent suit with Weyland Industries in regards to the android design. Yutani Corporation could have filled in the blanks in regards to Project Prometheus for Weyland Industries.

"Hello. If you are hearing this, please come see me. This place is Paradise. Cup of tea mum?" - excerpt from David 8's distress beacon. 

Exactamundo Hicks/Hudson.

David 8 would be able to fool a team of human scientists. IBM's Watson reads thousands of medical articles a day and spits out treatment recommendations. Fast forward that for 70 years and the android could B.S. any human.

The still of the cryo pods could be from anywhere in the movie.  Remember that there is an entire colony of people on the ship.

@SteveRogers, This is also a true fact.

The cryo pods could be to show the one that's malfunctioned (Franco's?), or to show what the colonists pods look like.

Also, just had a thought, we are all assuming the Covenant is the colony ship. What if the colony ship was sent FIRST, hence the cryo pods/nighttime scene with the soldiers/scientists. Then our Last Supper Crew is sent to investigate. This scenario would back up BigDave's assertion about the child skulls in the workshop photos. I know the trailers and the leaks and the articles are stating that the Last Supper crew is on the colony ship, but what if. Lol. Crazy far out theory that has no actual basis, just thought it would be fun.

Please allow me this moment to apologize. I was disingenuous and I now know it was obvious. I admit, I was a little hurt when mocked with this image below Inquisitor Fifield. 

I panicked and acted as if this was an agreement in theory but I knew underneath that it was not. A false witness to events providing testimony I knew to be untrue. You were mocking me and I deserved it.

This is tough.

What I should have done is to have expressed gratitude. Gratitude towards someone who wanted to keep the boundaries of reasonable discussion. We have a responsibility to each other to edify, uplift, and provide an environment where free exchange of what each of us “see” in the released material.

Now, with debate at it’s zenith, I try and pull this.

I have gone back to my notes and looked again at the calculations I performed…and (while wearing my jeweler's lens) there is no way that you can tell that the individual in David 8’s workshop is wearing a face shield.

I was reaching for a conclusion that had no basis, no grounding in fact, and borderline malpractice image analysis.

With no reservation whatsoever, I now admit that there is no face shield in view in the title image.

My gratitude goes to those that had the courage to take on this theory and reel me in from fantasy land.

What you all see clearly on the individual’s face in the image in question is a glare.

Don't be so hard on yourself, it's all up to interpretation and eye of the beholder. Most of the stuff I post is based off of what I see in a trailer or screenshot, I have no relative fact to back any of it up lol. I'm sorry if I've said anything to offend.

A glare from something shining as bright as the morning sun.

A glare from a GUN.

No, a glare from two GUNS shining as bright and as brilliant as the morning sun on the floor of David 8's workshop. 

No, not at all Hicks/Hudson. Thank you for saying that.

No problem.

I'm with you on the 1st gun to the right with the flashlight attached. The second one I'm 50/50 on, too hard for my little eyes to tell.

But if you see a gun, you see one. If you see a flashlight, it's a flashlight. If you see Shaw dancing naked with glow sticks to a Ke$sha song while the Xeno twerks on the ceiling...well...maybe there has to be a line drawn at some point.

Thats so funny. My next theory for the workshop had dancing as well.

I was the one that spoke up about the second one on the left :) me me me and unobjects are scary. 

GX-T355, yes you were and you deserve praise. To be honest, I didn't see the second gun flashlight until you pointed it out.

There is no chance....NONE....that there is any sarcasm in this thread..zero

No, SteveRogers1973, not at all.

Thank you, we will pull it together now and be serious.

I have one last bit of sarcasm I promised Hicks/Hudson and then I'll quit. Its called Grand Unified Robot Theory. I believe it will tie together many of the main theories put forth on this forum.

Then, I swear, I will get back to being serious.

Thank you to Facehuggers! , Inquisitor Fifield, ninXeno426, SteveRogers1973, BigDave, Hicks/Hudson, GX-T355.

First, let me pay respect to those that contributed to this topic. The below contributions were serious and great theory and background. Please don’t think your contribution was wasted.

Hicks/Hudson

BigDave -  I posted a hypothesis a while ago that the Engineers had been abducting humans from Earth and bringing them there for experimentation. Maybe these skulls are left overs from a time long passed and David is studying them?

SteveRogers1973

The still of the cryo pods could be from anywhere in the movie.  Remember that there is an entire colony of people on the ship.

Hicks/Hudson

But if you see a gun, you see one. If you see a flashlight, it's a flashlight. If you see Shaw dancing naked with glow sticks to a Ke$sha song while the Xeno twerks on the ceiling...well...maybe there has to be a line drawn at some point.

BigDave

First i would add about that Laboratory and i thought the leaked Prop room was for the creature department to get some inspiration and use those Skeletons to basically work out how to design new Monsters by studding anatomy of other animals.

One Person on Set even said they had a Cat Skeleton in parts and she took it back with her and confirmed they was used in the design stage of Creatures.

But the Trailer 2 does seem to show some of these are in the movie...

So now i can answer those Small Skulls.... they are not from Monkeys or similar... they are Human Baby Skulls from a Fetus thats over 25 weeks up to a New Born and few weeks old.

Why and where would David have access to such things?

Shaw? how does he manage to get her Pregnant with Humanoids, unless there are Engineers and well they can procreate only they had no Females as they either Engineered themselves past the need, or Females was lost/taken from them in the past (Paradise has dead female Engineers) maybe this is why the Fallen Angels favored the Daughters of Man?

Because there is only a few ways David could get his hands on New Born or Pre-born Humanoid Babbie's.

These and others were great contribution to the discussion. Talk about support…thank you Hicks/Hudson, I’ll address dancing in the theory below. And finally, last but not least, the title of this posting would be different without the contribution of GX-T355. 

We would have debated the “Ungun in David’s workshop” had GX-T355 not provided the value added second Ungun. A very happy unbirthday to you GX-T355.

All of these above contributions are to be taken seriously. The contribution below, not so much. I wrote this theory below to set a baseline for others to feel good about their theory. Your theory and discussion are not crap and you will feel better once you read the below take on the missing backstory.

Grand Unified Robot Theory

Peter Weyland was born October 1, 1990 in Mumbai, India. Having an engineer and a professor of mythology for parents gave young Peter a leg up in his enrichment activities.

Peter was awarded a patent at age 14 for a synthetic trachea he developed from stem cells. Although, easily surpassing his peers in academic development, Peter had one love that would last his life that wasn’t in medicine, mythology, robotics, or space travel.

Peter wanted to dance. And not just any dance, Peter wanted to break dance. Growing up in Mumbai, Peter had access to the best of bootleg movies. One movie Peter purchased was Breakin’ from 1984. This movie lit a fire inside of Peter. A burning fire of a need to dance.

The below image is David performing Entrance of the Gods into Valhalla with his hands hammering the keys like Elton John with titanium fingers. David is a dynamo on the piano and he began to sing lyrics to the song others hadn’t heard before.

David sang in prophetic words, 

Run. Don’t mind the alien but still run.

Run from the two guns in my workshop Inquisitor Fifield.

Guuuuhhhhhaaaaaaaauuunns, run from the two unguns….

Then Walter took over with the synthesizer.

You are unable to see Peter Weyland break dancing to this but he almost set the smooth white floor on fire with his backspin in a silk suit. There is a shadow on the wall from Peter breaking down into his spin behind David hammering on the keys of the piano. 

Over time, break dancing took a toll on Peter and he wasn’t able to do the backspin anymore. Peter Weyland got to a point where he could only do the robot (hence Grand Unified Robot Theory).

David had told the Engineer what was important to Peter Weyland not knowing that Engineers hate break dancing.

yup, he flipped out.

Seriously sorry for triggering what ever was your problem

(but there is no w-y storm rifle in the lab)

@Ingenerio, that was beautifully and masterfully well done. I forgot Peter Weyland's street name was Bugaloo Shrimp.

BTW, most fun I've had in a thread.

Inquisitor Fifield, I believe my Peter Weyland break dancing story is closer to the truth than no guns in David's workshop.

You mocked 3 different people's in one post, one really got their feelings hurt.

"Where do you think you are seeing this rifle in that picture?

There are high res version of this screencap possible you know.

i can guarantee you its neither in that picture nor in the movie even if we would like to have it..

Engineer like male on the dissection table = Shaw

Massive and tall male blurred figure stumbling up the stairs = Mutated Shaw

Some pixels = weyland storm rifle"

And now for the second verse:

Don't trip over the 2 guns in my workshop 

and don't point your crusty troll finger

if you have thin skin Inquisitor Fifield

Walter begins to beat box at this point.

Thank you Hicks/Hudson. There is a lot to the Peter Weyland backstory we haven't seen yet.

Honestly - this may qualify as a HUGE spoiler...I mean, clearly this "reveal" is the ultimate direction of the entire canon.  I believe that Blomkamp wanted to make "Alien 5" - not it's true working title of course - the big tie in between Aliens and Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo.  Obviously these too genre have long been connected and Blomkamp finally wanted to tie it all together.  Ridley caught wind of it, as everyone knows he loathes break dancing, and had the studio execs squash it.

The horse has left the barn now though....way to go @Ingeniero...they better delete this thread or the franchise is toast.

@SteveRogers - They can't delete this, it's the groundwork for the future of the Alien franchise.

Picture this: A dark, desecrated temple. The Xeno emerges from one end of the room, a Protomorph descends from the ceiling, and Ultramorph bursts through the floor, and...in a shocking twist...Peter Weyland slowly meanders in from the other side of the room. They all stare at each other...sweat, saliva, black goo, slime...all dripping from them in anticipation for....

DJ DAVID 8 TO START SPINNING LV-223'S HOTEST BEATS! The Xeno pops, locks, and drops it...the Ultra breaks in the center, the Proto does the robot, and Peter does the worm! (The dance, not the Hammerpede, sorry this isn't NC-17 guys).

on second thought......maybe you're right Steve. We should all abandon this now.

It is almost like we are operating with a hive mind now Hicks/Hudson and SteveRogers1973.

The xeno-rave run by David 8 and the tie in to Electric Boogaloo (Yutani Corporation back story)...have you seen the script for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2?

All joking aside, Inquisitor Fifield now has a clear case of flipped out documented on me.

Still, please feel free to use this topic to post updates and analysis to the Grand Unified Robot Theory and any ungun developments.

I promised SteveRogers1973 I would hold off after posting that. 

One last thing, "me me me and unobjects are scary", GX-T355 thank you for that nugget.

Back to business.

On second thought, maybe the dance party was the answer that Shaw sought...the key to Weyland's (boogie down) immortality...and the fire that Prometheus stole...was the newest, hottest moves.

SpiteHouse, see, now we are getting down to the DNA of the story.