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Unguns in David's workshop

I have been notified that others are betting the farm that David 8's workshop is gun-free. 

Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, and (i can't believe it) Page 5.

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SteveRogers1973
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@Spitehouse - I think that might just be it: The fire that Prometheus took from the gods was just a metaphor to the Fly/Backspin/pop/lock/turtle/whack combo moves that Weyland has been chasing...if he can find the right combination he could achieve immortality! He could then be the "Flyest of the Fly" as depicted in the original cave hieroglyphs.

This is amazing.  We are literally discovering the true Alien canon on this thread....the whole Xeno thing is just a ruse to thow everyone of Weyland's true quest...crazy. 

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Wow SteveRogers1973, I thought I had a clamp down on the Grand Unified Robot Theory 2 concept art. This image leak above from my team is unacceptable.

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@Ingeniero - My bad buddy...I have entire team of internet spooks doing my dirty work and I didn't realize this was yours.  But good news! I identified the perpetrator and he has been shot...unfortunately he was the only one who knew how to delete anything so my hands are a bit tied at the moment

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I'll stop my witch hunt then. Let it be the first of the viral advertising for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2.

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LOL

@Ingeniero

If i can put something back on Topic....

Then indeed Engineers coming to take Humans back to LV-223 or Paradise could be a possibility.... or even taking them from Paradise/LV-223 to Earth.  Maybe some element of Alien Abductions or even Ancient Sacrifices could fit into the whole Story.

At very least its plausible the Engineers came back and took some forms of Life back to LV-223 to Evolve them and then bring back these more evolved Humanoids back over and over until modern Mankind is achieved.

As far as the Baby Heads.. indeed its the first thing i noticed way back when these Props was leaked and i have mentioned this a few times.. and they are in the Movie.

So this means (unless they are going to pass them off as primates)  that either

*David has came across Skeletons of long dead Baby/Fetus Humanoids, or Petrified/Burnt remains of such Humanoids.

*David somehow gains access to some live at one point Baby/Fetus Humanoids  in those 10 years he has been on Paradise.

The last Option is interesting because we have to wonder, where the hell does he obtain these?

The Source did claim back in February 2015 that there was like Cryo-Pods that was not too dissimilar to the Matrix Pods where the Machines Grow and Keep Humans in the Matrix...  and they said there was like Babies being grown in these Pods.

Which is why a while back i made a Topic about could it have been Females that always lead to the downfall of the Engineers or other beings, because Culture and Mythos has always portrayed MAN and indeed the GODs (Angels in Biblical account) being Fond of Females and Gold.. 

So i wondered was the Disaster Scene in AC a Punishment where Females was taken out, with Males... and this left the Engineers or those above them to find alternative means to Reproduce and could Cloning be that... and could these had led to the LV-223 Engineers?

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Thank you BigDave. I noticed more than one Prometheus mission lost. I think it is obvious that David had access to at least one Engineer body to harvest from/test on when on Paradise.

Could any of the lost Prometheus class missions have provided humans for the Engineers?

Was anything discovered the Project Prometheus Discover New Worlds? (http://www.projectprometheus.com/newworlds/)

This was in the notes section of one of the colonies.

"The colony was named after Captain Susan Morrison, whose deep space exploration vessel was lost in the Gliese system"

The colony furthest out in the list is POL-6362: JACOB-TELLIS and is 3249 light years out.

Weyland Industries could have put many ships in the Acheron LV-426 system. Prometheus Class ships set sail in 2073.

Did a crew, such as the lost crew of Captain Susan Morrison (a real person at NASA) get lost in the system that houses the planet Paradise?

Did David 8 cultivate eggs from the capture of another crew(s)?

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Who knows...

We have to remember the Galaxy even as far as within a 2000LY distance is vast... it would be like the Atlantic Ocean say  on a larger scale.. if saw we had many ships travel across that sea and there could be things and places (well GPS Co-ordinates) that are simply never explored..

My point is kind of like how difficult it is to find a Crash Plane Wreckage at sea, most times not every piece of wreckage is recovered.

so they could have traveled further than LV-223/426 before Prometheus but never had been near that system.

I would also not 100% rely on this part of the Prometheus Viral Website as it has MASSIVE Plot Holes

The Biggest One of All

"The colony furthest out in the list is POL-6362: JACOB-TELLIS and is 3249 light years out."

Which by the year it was reached by a Man-made mission would Beg the Question why did Weyland use the Prometheus when this shows there was FAR-MORE Faster Ships out there?

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I wont rule out the possibility of a previous mission to Paradise though... as its like i had mentioned on a Topic the other day..

Where did these Lamps come from? There are 3 such Lights Sources in this shot..

1) From the Prometheus Lifeboat or Wreckage? Doubt it

2) Engineer Juggernaught? I would think the Tech is different

3) Ancient Engineer Technology, that means they evolved similar Technological wise as we did when we invented Electricity and the light Bulb

Nope they look very Human/Man-made from Earth Tech.

Could they have came from here?

 Or similar.... as these are not round.

Or did Ancient Engineers share a lot of similar Tech like Lamps with Light Bulbs or similar.... and then where did David get his writing material and Paper.

Did he re-invent the lot from scratch?

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Hey BigDave, that's actually a really great catch. David 8 has unique skills but I also don't believe he created everything from scratch such as the lights in his workshop on Paradise.

The paper looks a bit like opened scrolls...which would be in place in a temple but I don't remember any lighting in Prometheus in the Engineer structure except for the hologram playback that kicked on whatever was all over the walls blending into the background. A different tech entirely from the human visitors.

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Weyland legit drag queen after moving on from breaking.

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S.M, you are now officially under consideration for promotion to Director (from associate director) for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2.

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And with your new privileges (as Director, it's just about a lock with you finding the main character for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2) S.M, let me start by saying I'm sorry I gave you sass mouth regarding the Weyland Industries hostile takeover of Yutani-Corporation.

I was narrow-minded in my assessment of your response.

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How about another song for those ears covered in thin skin Inquisitor Fifield?

Coming soon: The lyrics to the soundtrack for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2 with special guest Inquisitor Fifield honking the clown horn like he is on fire.

It will be a regular crusty clown troll dance blowout.

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Leave your unguns at the door.

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"Don't take your unguns to town son,leave your unguns at home Bill,don't take your unguns to town"

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ninXeno426, I kind of felt like we were on the same page a little while back (days, still important to me) and now that you have adapted the ungun anthology to Johnny Cash...let's just say I feel ya.

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ninXeno426, did you notice the "fire" reference in both the Grand Unified Robot Theory and the Grand Unified Robot Theory 2 soundtrack announcement?

This was a sub reference to Prometheus and my humble attempt at being a part of the anthology back story.

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Thanks and indeed I did Ingeneiro,tell me more about your anthology backstory 

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Oh no, I can't...ninXeno426.

Well a little but I can't give out all the secrets of Grand Unified Robot Theory 2.

One item I can allude to is that the black goo is used on crusty clown trolls...and I can't even go into context or frame of reference.

OK, one small explanation.

They are devoured to benefit the surrounding environment.

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LOL!Okay Ingeneiro,I think I get it though lol 

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"And the Academy Award for Best Commentator on a Thread That May or May Not Have Lost It's Way goes to:

Ingeniero!

Please step and accept your award with a grand speech about your future plans!

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I'm sorry it took so long for me to respond, they had to retrieve me from the recesses of the temple. I had to withdraw and have time with my thoughts in order to prepare for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2.

Hicks/Hudson, wow me?, what warmth. I am really flattered. Please stay on as Executive Producer for Grand Unified Robot Theory 2. You have worked so well with our Head Writer, Art Concept Guru, and Lead Story Line Editor.  

I have to go back into the temple now but please let me say this now before I return to the catacombs of the responsible use of time chamber:

Troll Kingdom

You're a disease and I'm the cure.

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Just for your concern, i stopped reading a couple of pages ago - you can stop making posts in your 'humor' adressed at me, dear mentally compromised Person.

(I'll bump this thread in may, to declare victory in the debate over the rifle-free lab,tho)

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This thread has officially jumped the shark.

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@Inquisitor Fifield - LOL! Ever the optimist, I love it good sir!

The rifle is in the lab per the picture, dropped or knocked out of good man Uli's hands before he becomes Xeno-food...in my opinion of course.

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I have returned from the catacombs of the responsible use of time chamber. I have contributed the minimum required to maintain my personal relationships outside of this forum and now wish to contribute once again to the discussion.

No one likes their belly exposed Inquisitor Fifield but I was distracted by the hateful and vulgar things you wrote to me and others. We can agree to disagree on the topic regarding the rather clearly shown rifles on the floor of David's workshop.

You said stop in your last comment. I can respect that and will.

I respectfully ask you to please not say such mean and hurtful things to others in regards to their opinions and work. Especially me.

I still invite anyone to use this as a safe space for sarcasm and ideas for future production of that nature.

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A trailer for this topic has been uploaded to YouTube. 

Thank you all contributors.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwyNYNcR59pbLUGn4_qhx8Q

 

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Inquisitor Fifield,  you really are Fifield huh?  Lol

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Looked at this image again...

And regardless of if its Guns or Not, it would have to be at least as SteveRogers1973 mentioned... at least Flash Lights.

So your point Ingeniero stands these objects are Human Technology and we have to ask how did they get there...

One Gun/Flashlight could have been Latukefu's but then who had the other?

Also the whole Davids Workshop has Lamps that appear to be something the LV-223 Engineers Tech would not match and also maybe not what the more Ancient Paradise Tech lacks.

So where did these come from?

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Yes BigDave. The human tech is out of place. One thing that Ridley Scott mentioned in his last round of interviews in regards to Dr. Shaw and the Alien: Awakening slip (deliberate or not) was the period in between LV-223 and Paradise.

David 8 could have been on Paradise for a year after nine years of harvesting technology from another human colony or craft.

They were in a juggernaut, so that breaks through limitations of human spacecraft as far as reach for David 8 and Dr. Shaw before David 8 went to Paradise.

It does look like the Engineer bodies rotted away when Daniels is on the stone ramp.

 

I still believe this pic below is from another time (as much as years) in relation to when the Covenant crew arrived.

 

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Ingeniero!

I disagree! (Most respectfully, ofcourse) 

I think that the picture of the bodies and the cloaked figure is from when David (and maybe Shaw) came to the Paradise. The picture where David shoots the flare is from the first encounter withe the covenant crew and the Neo:s.

The picture with Daniels at the ramp is further in to the picture, maybe from a second or third visit to the temple. Look at Daniels face. That is the face of someone who knows she is in mortal danger and has very slim chances of surviving. I'd reckon that that would not be the case when they first visit the temple and the captain gets a hug.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

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@Ingeniero and NinXeno  -  you guys are on unfire. Have my respect.

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Thank you Parkerparrot, good debate. I certainly can't know for sure...I did speculate here.

The latest press came out and said this:


"we saw Captain Oram talking to an android played by Michael Fassbender. However, this wasn’t the newly revealed Walter model. It’s David, the android last seen in Prometheus, who explained to Oram that he’s become something of an amateur zoologist. As the camera lingered on dissected specimens, David revealed he’s been studying the xenomorph. He explained that he’s mapped how insectoid carriers burst from spores to infect hosts and create hybrid lifeforms."

http://io9.gizmodo.com/we-ve-seen-at-least-one-very-grim-secret-at-the-heart-o-1793188750

In the top picture David 8 (see article quote above...if they are correct) is talking to Captain Oram. David 8's hair is its natural color in an attempt to "look" like he is still operating under his original directives marooned and ready to serve human interests.

The long blond hair hanging out of the hood of the Engineer cloak is gone from David 8 talking to Captain Oram near the egg.

This, I believe, is an attempt by David 8 to keep the Covenant crew calm and lure then towards the lifeforms (eggs) he cultivated on Paradise.

It's the hair that throws me off in the Engineer cloak hood.

How could David 8, with long blond hair (see above), attack the Covenant crew after displaying the eggs (above) for Captain Oram when David 8 has short brown hair (his natural color)? 

David is born bald so his hair grows. That is why I believe that the flare picture is from another crew taken over at another time on Paradise during the decade from when we last saw David 8 on LV-223.

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Rock and unRoll Farlander.

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And, to get really way off topic, I see seven pyramids/triangles in this image.

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@ Ingeniero 

I totaly missed that thread! How could I possibly do that! Very interesting. And the gizmodo article I had'nt read either. The backburster scene will be just awesome (if that is a adequate word for something as horrific as that) I must spend more time here...

As for  the blond hair i am not sure what to believe... To me it looks as if it might be something in the background, lit up. But as I said, I am not sure.

I must say that I really do appreciate our chats here. You have sutch thougt trough points and visions on things.

By the way, If You mean the pyramids/triangels only You can see it might be an untri.....

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Parkerparrot, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound mystical with the triangles comment.

I was talking about the triangular shapes (in the image above) in the hood, lit up face, hood shadow, the lower cloak opening, overall cloak figure, etc...the triangle shape (below) seems to be a visual habit in the trailers.

I appreciate the chats here too. Thank you for saying that.

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You just can't make this up.

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*chuckles* Seriously, 119 posts and still un *cough cough* going, folks?

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