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MemberTrilobiteMar-22-2017 10:46 PMIf the intent is to colonize the planet, is the Covenant supposed to land or stay in orbit? It seems a lot of equipment needs to be delivered to the surface logistically. A drop ship might not be enough to shuttle things to and fro. Thoughts?
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianApr-06-2017 2:49 AMNO insult percieved and TY for the link!! There's some really great quotes here! Many I didn't know previously! :)
The best part is the 'translations' of the quotes, those really help, and there's some VERY valuable advice here for all writers!!
TY again!!
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-06-2017 4:22 AMReading some of the comments and looking at the Ship, it would appear a ship this size once all the modules have been taken down would have trouble finding a space to land on their destination.
Maybe it can be broken down as SM stated or maybe it either stays in Orbit where they can use it as we would for communications and how we use Satellites in General.
Am am sure once we master vast Space Travel where we can send hundreds of people maybe hundreds of light years, the ship designs would be more in line of something that can be re-used.
Maybe they can send it back with Skeleton Crew to re-use?
As for the Company and Inside motives and Agenda's of the Nefarious kind, i am inclined to think at the present time so 2100-2105 the Companies objective for the Covenant Mission is exactly that a long term, long rang large colonization mission.
As back-handed as the Company came across in the Alien Franchise i dont think they would invest all that money and send 2000 souls on the off chance off what David was up to.
They would send a Military/Science exploration craft with a number of Androids on to either LV-223 or Paradise and not a Colony Mission.
I would think any company interest would come after the fate of those Colonists in future movies has been established and relates then to a Organism they can use as a Weapon or Research for other uses of it.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianApr-06-2017 4:35 AMGood points!!
My considered theory on the ship (after a solid dose of eyestrain examining pics) is that it's a long-range, open-frame hauler, and covered in the modules for a pre-fab Initial Colony Site. The dropship as folks pointed out, it's design is VERY specific and fits to the look of the assorted 'modules' too closely to be accidental.
Once everything's offloaded and set up, working, the ship would return home to do the same again. Minimal innate ship-mass, maximum cargo-carrying capacity, meaning Low Overhead in establishing colonies quickly.
As nefarious as W-Y, and likely assorted other corporations are, like you I think Covenant is just a by-the-book colonization mission, albeit the first one of it's scale, and that W-Y had zero knowledge of where David and Shaw had gone, or even what happened to them post-Prometheus Incident. So, I don't see any company nastiness in this movie, but Walter MIGHT have some contingency 'sleeper' programs, always a possibility.
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING
Neomorph
MemberChestbursterApr-07-2017 5:09 AMAt first, I thought that the Covenant- provided that it's a lot bigger than the Prometheus- was too big to enter planetary atmospheres and effectively landing on the surface without being shredded and melting, (also depends on the atmosphere of course) and land on surfaces. I still do to some extent but it's rather difficult to measure the size of the ship without at least a dropship right next to it for size comparison.
Judging by the first picture Ingeniero posted, it does seem like the Covenant is travelling at a very low orbit imo (either that or it's an illusion of distance). Not sure if it will descend further though before (more) dropships are deployed.
Deep Space
MemberFacehuggerApr-07-2017 7:07 AMCan someone clarify if the Covenant was always heading to Paradise or if it got diverted on route to somewhere else?
Thanks :)
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-07-2017 7:11 AM@Blackwinter-witch
Totally 100% Spot on, this is how i see it too.
Indeed Neomorph the Covenant did look like it had entered the outer Atmosphere, i think however as Blackwinter-witch put it, i would consider the main ship not being really intended to land on the Surface.
I think it could land however provided there was a purpose built platform for it, i just think it would need a massive Flat Area to land.
As far as the Size, i have not worked that out.. i would be willing to take some measurements for a estimate if anyone likes lol
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Tiwaz
MemberChestbursterApr-07-2017 7:14 AMI agree to Neo.
I further think the cargo lifter/transport is meant for "on site" transport.
Considering the briefly shown bumpy ride of the dropship i can't imagine the cargo lifter doing an orbital decent with, let's say, an ATV strapped onto it. Unless there's some sort encasement to protect the cargo during atmospheric entry.
On the other hand, we're talking scifi here so anything is possible if the story needs it. ;)
Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianApr-09-2017 3:57 PMDeep Space, this may answer your question.
"Deep into their mission, the crew is awakened from their cryogenic sleep pods by a mysterious distress signal that is human in origin. That signal leads them to another planet, a paradise that looks far more appealing than their initial destination. And then they do not peacefully settle on that planet and do not happily establish a colony because this is a movie with Alien in the title."
http://www.slashfilm.com/alien-covenant-characters-plot/
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianApr-09-2017 4:01 PMTY !! :)
Given the tech we've seen in the ALIEN universe, like you I suspect Covenant COULD land, but it would need an appropriately large, flat or reasonably-flat area. But while it CAN probably do so, I doubt it's a 'preferred option'.
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianApr-09-2017 4:03 PM"Deep into their mission, the crew is awakened from their cryogenic sleep pods by a mysterious distress signal that is human in origin. That signal leads them to another planet, a paradise that looks far more appealing than their initial destination. And then they do not peacefully settle on that planet and do not happily establish a colony because this is a movie with Alien in the title."
LOL Love it!!! :D
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING