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BigDave

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During the New Trailer we here the "Country Roads, take me Home" song.

This shot we see to the right a Record Player that appears to be playing this tune, and then the next shot is the Lake and what appears to be something beneath the Water as the Sound goes Muffled.

We see the shot through the Window overlooks the Landscape of Paradise, and the Question is then...

Is this actually the Drop Ship?

Or indeed was their another Ship Prior to the Covenant, this would certainly answer how David has different clothes from what he had at the end of Prometheus and also maybe where he obtained the Paper and Writing Material as well as Lighting for his Work-shop.

 

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@Space Cadet

The Shot with Ridley Scott is from Prometheus and features the Engineer and a Cameraman.

Your second point about Daniels Apartment could be a potential reason for this shot, if she has some Flash Back Scenes, this would be a Good Explanation.  But the back drop from the Window does look a bit like back drop they shot the landing scenes from in Alien Covenant (Paradise).

Would Ridley use a shot of Daniels Apartment on Earth that has the same view?  Who knows as the whole Weyland and David Scene does have the back drop similar to the opening Scene of Prometheus.

So indeed the options that are likely are.

1) Daniels Apartment view in a Flash Back (we have to accept its coincidence its similar to the setting of the Drop Ship landing). Oh and coincidence of the same Song.

2) Its a previous Ship, that is either in another location on Paradise despite the coincidence of similar back drop, or a previous ship that has left that area somehow.

OR.......

3) A Module from the Drop Ship, that has fallen off the Rescue Drop Ship and landed on the surface and then sank into the Water.

As i dont think it would be a Module dropped and then Daniels makes it her home, as this would mean she heads back to the Surface after the Encounter with the Xenomorph on the ship. Especially since the second Shot we hear the sound gets muffled which would happen if the Module was now under water.

So i think option 3 is the best explanation but the only puzzle is the lack of wreckage from the Blown Up Drop Ship which should be evident in the 2nd shot of the OT.

Unless we are to assume the wreckage like the Module is now under water?

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BigDave, I read that Alien: Covenant took place on Paradise and the Covenant ship.

Do you believe the "We are Walter" campaign is part of Alien: Awakening and not part of Alien: Covenant?

I do believe that the room you mention above with the record player is from human technology David 8 captured during the ten years before the events of Alien: Covenant. It seem to fit that the Walter origin sequence would mesh with David 8 and Shaw in Alien: Awakening with what I read about the events included in Alien: Covenant.

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Hmmm, could just be the dropship window when they first land and havent been infected yet.

shaw might be humming it to operate the juggernaut, and if she were mutating because of the trilobite experience, she might lose control of the juggernaut causing the crash.

for me, alien awakening could only be a paradise lost type story, where david and shaw (adam and eve) get corrupted by someone (super engineer?) and shaw wants to be mutated to become a higher life form having been seduced by the knowledge of the (evil?) engineers. Apart from that i think its hard to come up with a two hour film on david and shaw on a juggernaut chewing the cud.

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David knew about Paradise and probably told Weyland about it while he was still asleep. "Try harder", perhaps David/Weyland at that time managed to get some other human ship to go investigate that Paradise planet. 

 

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Alien: Awakening could be the best road trip story in the history of film. I know that Ridley Scott directed Thelma and Louise too but he may out do his best road trip picture.

David 8 in two parts and a lonely Dr. Elizabeth Shaw leaving LV-223 in a juggernaut....after ten years the Covenant crew shows up to Paradise and gets chewed up by David 8's creations...what in the flim flam happened during the decade road trip to Paradise in preparation to end humanity?

Dr. Shaw was obviously involved a little if she is showing up on the hologram playback.

 

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Who knows..

Like i mentioned previously the most Logical Reason would be if when Tennessee came to rescue Daniels the Loader had a Module Set up and it dropped onto the surface.

And maybe at the end of the Movie David discovers this and enters and witnesses the same Song that Shaw was singing to when maybe She wanted to Go home.... a bit of a Irony for David as now he is Stranded.

But then there are flaws to this, because we can see maybe it sank or so the other shot latter when the Music gets muffled seems to indicate and we see no evidence of the wreckage of the Drop Ship that Daniels and Co used that Farris blows up.

If there was some Human Technology obtained from this room, be it on a Ship or not...  it would explain how David has different clothes to what he had at the end of Prometheus and how he obtained the Flair Gun, and how also maybe he dyed his hair... how his work shop seemed to had been lighted up by Human Lamps/Bulbs.

But maybe these are just a oversight made by Ridley and Fox?

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@Babylonxeno

I have studied the Drop Ship, and it appears to have no such windows, the Lifeboat in Prometheus too (but how would David and Shaw take that with them anyway).

Also why would the Drop Ship need to have that Record Player.

So i think we have to wander is this Daniels Home from a Flash Back Scene, but why the Coincidence that the view is similar to the views around where the Drop Ship landed on Paradise and also the latter shot where something seems sunken under the water would not fit this if it was Daniels Home on Earth.

So its a very very interesting and overlooked image, which is why i made a few Topics based on purely easy to overlook images. Such as this Topic, and the one about what destroyed the Engineers as far as the Burnt Bodies and Golden Device on the Top of the Cathedral Dome and also the one i made as far as the Basis for Davids Experiments where i highlight the shot that has 4 Humanoid Baby Skulls.

All details that could Mean Something we could Miss, but also could all be oversights.

I do however agree about Awakening and that Shaw and something else could be the New Adam and Eve.

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Indeed but i would think Weyland if he knew this, would ask David to awaken him once he knows how far and how long it would take to get to Paradise.

But then i guess as David found a alive Engineer, Weyland may as well just take his chances and find what he wants off this One being, rather than turning up at their Home-world facing many more of them.

This kind of plays into Shaw's Answers too, if indeed they discover the Ship they take has a Engineer on board, then surely Shaw would want her Answers off them, rather than arrive at the World of these Hostile Humanoids.

And if there is one on the Juggernaught and David and Shaw manage to speak to it, with maybe a Bargaining Tool (Urn) they may get the Answers they want prior to getting to Paradise, which could impact David and Shaws plans for when they arrive.

 

 

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From the track listing released here yesterday, it looks like the view from a Cabin On The Lake.

Probably David's temporary abode, or holiday home, when being surrounded by the civilization he wiped out starts to get a bit morbid.

Probably created by scavenging and salvaging random stuff he finds littered about.

Bare in mind the now dead civilization had the ability to build (the citadel/temple proves this) so having a window available isn't too far of a stretch.

Just my 2 cents.

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@Ranting Xeno

Indeed but i seem to only see the beings on Paradise as being stuck a bit behind the times Technologically wise.

Apart from the Cathedral Dome, but this could be like the Ancient Astronaut theories where say the Great Pyramid of Giza was a Ancient Piece of Technology that the Alien Gods used, and that Mankind who served lacked any Technology.

And the LV-223 Engineers Technology seemed far to Advanced, and i guess the big Question is where does David Salvage the Record Player?

A only other Logical Explanation would be this arrived on Paradise before the Covenant, maybe before David arrived, could it be a deep Space Craft that the Engineers picked up and brought back to Study?

But by how the Engineers seem to have reacted in the one report, it seems they are not used to seeing Ships turn up.

Ingeniero did have a theory for other Human Technology that we see in the Trailers, as being maybe David on his travels went to Human Outposts to gain some Technology and Bits and Pieces...  That would make sense to explain how he may have obtained these things.

But i find it a bit odd why he would do that, surely he would just head right to Paradise.

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BigDave, is that Dr. Shaw in the title photo with a xenomorph in her mouth?

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Ingeni, I'm 100% sure that the image in question has not been added by Dave. :D

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WTF! Hack?

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I will report. Not against BD but there might be some BS going on that could affect others.

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@Ingeniero-ahahahahha! I didn't even notice until you pointed it out. Clearly it is Dr. Shaw performing some sort of diagnostic check on the new and improved David. Nothing to see here!

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Of course not Ati. I never thought BigDave posted that. 

"some sort of diagnostic check" is very funny though Brittis404.

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@ATI

Added to this, I think this room is part of a lifepod/lifeboat. If there is a movie before Alien - Covenant, anything could happen.

Agree 100% I think is part of the lifepod the only habitable place on the Planet after the disaster, with only one survivor, probably Daniel, I bet this is at the end of the movie. 

 

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Well spotted i am going to Edit that and Report it

Not my doing

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@Roger55

Indeed as ATI put thats one other Option, i did assume could this be a Module that David was left to stay in as a Irony, but ATI expanded this to ponder what if its Daniels.

Its a valid alternative for sure.

As for the Banner, i cant Edit it out sorry guys.. i dont have Admin/Mod Privileges but i have messaged Chris.

As the site has either been Hacked, or someone with Admin Rights has been hacked.

If it was me... you can be sure i could find a just as Relevant Image done by HR Giger Instead ;)

I am sure it would soon be sorted.

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Dave, I informed Ingeniero about this dildomorph anomaly. :D :D :D

Everybody here knows that you wouldn't use a this kind of image. :)

Roger55, true, your theory is very good as well. In fact, it would be the perfect ending. However, I think that there will be two survivors, and an android will stay on the planet.

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If it was a cartoon of a human having sex with a xenomorph then we would let it slide... but Hentai is a big no no here... I'm going to send my facehugger goons to whoever did this

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