[Spoilers] Major concerns for Covenant and following Alien movies

IF - I get what you are saying. I had the same feeling of seeing a cracked out space lemur attacking Carmen.  That whole scene with the backburster was gut wrenching but the thing jumps at Carmen and just lays there holding her knife in mid air doing nothing.  Man I'd be gutting me a neo from the side if that b*tch is on me.  I'm also thinking that when the Neo is born the fight/flight response is automatic until it gets bigger and it loses its napoleon complex.  Then I think its gets a lot more lurker'ish like original.  

Overall good post keep it up

In the words of Pearl Jam: "It's Evolution, Baby..."

Although my complaint wasn't about the animalistic movement per se, mine was more about how the movement "LOOKED" on screen. It seemed a little bit fake and "video gamey", but I'm hoping that sort of thing will be fixed by the time the film is released, although we're getting close to THAT date (thank God!). It won't ruin the movie for me, as I know you can't please EVERYBODY, but...anyways...my 2 cents.

SLog - I didnt see it being too video gameish.  Re-run the part where Carmen kicked the little Focker across the room the first time.  I can kind of see it when it took a "stance" before charging.  That is completely game'ish.  No creature is going to telegraph its opening move, it just does it.

@ Inquisitor Fifield, A very interesting topic of discussion, and one which could have some big implications.

I think that there are a wide variety of issues that can be raised here which can look at the cross examination of what makes an acceptable film for the Chinese market. If you look at every stage in the production of a movie, there are points that can flag up from, script, concept creature design and many other aspects that might not get through Chinese censorship.

It is certainly the case that what a movie takes on opening night in Hollywood, is not an automatic reflection of what is taken globally.

I think things should be taken as a whole. Why sacrifice creativity for the sake of one market, at the expense of losing what may be the more profitable alternative? In the case of the Alien franchise I think tampering with the creative elements that we know work would be fatal to the franchise. In other words, do not kill the goose that lays the eggs. I’m sure there will be some accountants somewhere who will have looked at potential profits, if all the right markets have been exploited.

As I see it, if China wants to ban something, it will find an excuse, one way or another. If China wants to ban something , it will do it, end of.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-china-blog-38105042

All I really want to know is if the invisible mouth chap is simply a variant, or an end stage of the actual monkey fellows we watched.  I really don't care or look down on the presentation of the behavior of the young, as long as they become more menacing later. The slowish removal of the mouth membrane could possibly be a good sign, yeah?

IASU - Have you see the stills we took from the Neo once it is full grown and kills Rosenthal?  It has a thin line smile before it opens up like a gulper eel and takes a huge chunk out of you.

hard to tell with the quality of the footage, but i think the throatburster looked and ran slightly different than the backb.

I could imagine they all are and turn out different and imperfect or even defective (by xenomorph standards) somehow.

Sidenote; wth was Orams girl thinking when she tried to hug and comfort the shaking pale as dead fella with something erupting in his back just like that? :D

LMAO....I think one of the spikes nailed her in the hand right before she flipped out.  I agree.....now what's your take on Walter just sitting there like a chump going uh wtf just happened?

well either Walter really just is a working tool deprived of all understanding for emotions and personal will or judgement and waiting for orders of a human around, or he may be up to something 'weyland-yutanish' or even 'special order 937ish'?

The concerns about neomorph being to much monkey like and jumping around is (hopefully) based around it being just born and still a tiny baby morph.

Real human Babies or especially younglings, kids are much more active and fast moving compared to grown ups or adults. Kids do have a kinda spastic uncontrolled behavior of sorts sometimes. Especially their more or less constantly moving extensions arms and legs.

I think and do hope when the neomorph is grown in size it will more or less walk on two feets and will be much more sneaky and controlled over its behavior and movement. 

I also think we have effidence for that. In one of the trailers with the neomorph attacking the woman from behind it firstly sneaked up to its prey. Than attacked her in upright position.

We don't know what potential pools of DNA the Neomorphs are pulling from. There may be a good reason why they move so frenetically.

@auximenes you are correct, but I'm hoping they iron out those movements a bit. They look a little too "Alien 3-ish" in the way they "flitter" instead of gracefully move. But again, I'm being pretty picky here. Love it overall in so many ways!

@Rick - I am with you. While watching the clip I was thinking "Why is she just laying there? Get up and stomp that thing!" It is understandable that witnessing something that traumatic (especially if it happened to someone you are close to) that she would be in shock but she also knows that that door is locked and there is no one else there to help take control of the situation. Once the creature jumps on her I would expect her to be flailing around a lot more than what we witnessed in the clip. Personally I think something like this would have helped this scene but all in all it was a great sequence and I cannot wait to watch it in full!

Well at least Neomorphs are different enough from Xenomorphs and imho way more efficient for slaughtering a great number of people. I have always had a hard time to consider the Xenomorphs as an effective mass destruction weapon. However the Neomorph ,especially with an efficient way to spread the spores, is a more potent slayer species. The spore is very optimized spreading and sleathy medium.

This said the Xenomorph especially the one from the first movie seems smarter, potentially more powerful and way more frightening.

Tim, 

When I think of the nest in A2, I am reminded that little neos have nothing on the thoroughbred Xenos. They would hide and ambush in numbers. So, perhaps if we are talking about an army of hundreds hunting them, they would be better, but any less number in an environment with cover would be game set match Xeno. Agree?

The neomorphs seem to be a very basic animalistic creature, the xenomorph is like a mechanoid hybrid. As these creatures havent been 'modified' as such, they seem to have taken their evolutionary direction from local wildlife, boar, dogs, monkeys

IllegalAlienSignedUp,

What make the Neomorph more efficient as a mass destruction weapon, is their more efficient way of spreading and their sheer agressivity since birth. Off course once you reach a critical mass the xenomorph become more dangerous but still their way of spreading through Facehuggers is quite inefficient to quickly reach a critical mass.

If i had the choice between using neomorph or xenomorph to wipe out an entire population, i would choose neomorph especially if i can weaponize the spores.

Xeno vs Neo - In a head to head match up, my money is also on the Xeno.  The adult Xeno is going to win out-right, against the Neo, or kill the neo with an acid blood rupture!

I still am really hoping to see some Engineer fights & what they can do, too!!

Walter, what can we say?  He was as useless as an awe-struck fanboy!  I do agree we may be seeing some 937 directive influence in Walter?

As Ash said, the Xeno is the perfect organism.

CB - lol well said "awe-struck fanboy"