dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-29-2017 1:13 AMTo this day, no one in my day to day real world knows of AC and I can only conclude or allude to the following:
(DK on the left and Chris and staff on the right)
JonesRules
MemberOvomorphApr-29-2017 1:22 AMTotally share your frustration dk. People are somehow unaware. Someone old enough to have seen the 1979 original told me recently that "Alien is getting a reboot this year." Really?
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-29-2017 1:25 AMJonesRules A reboot- glad I swallowed my beer before reading your reply!
JonesRules
MemberOvomorphApr-29-2017 1:34 AMdk Right, people hear aliens, think illegal aliens )) whatever... In spite of tons of viral marketing, many are not sure what is coming, and they need to be aware, somehow. This film needs to blow up the box office and restore the glory of the franchise! Should be easier to get them to the theaters than the voting booths ))
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-29-2017 1:41 AMAt the risk of the forum's wrath, Star Wars and safe Comic Book hero reruns with big explosions seem to rule the day. My old guy grumpy rant is incomplete without a "Goddammit!"
JonesRules
MemberOvomorphApr-29-2017 1:47 AMdk Well, while we have the grumpy old guy Sir Ridley at controls, maybe not all is lost! ))
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-29-2017 1:49 AMAgreed!Sick to death of super heroes and the like.Thankfully my family is onboard with me on Alien Covenant though I know they'll probably see Guardians of the Galaxy instead given the choice
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-29-2017 1:49 AMTrue- although in a recent interview he said that he just doesn't give a shit. That could be good though in that he might just go for it.
JonesRules
MemberOvomorphApr-29-2017 1:57 AMRidley never gives a shit, still he is an extraordinary director, and his films would never be that good without him taking [major] part. Try "Counselor" for a random example of his greatness. So I have confidence in the A:C and whatever is to come under his capable direction.
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-29-2017 2:01 AMBlade Runner isn't very loud in my parts right now (why would it considering no knuckle draggers are even tracking AC over here) but I am hoping it explodes soon.
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianApr-29-2017 2:19 AMIf not for hubby and some friends outside this forum, I'd really be frustrated to maybe a psychotic break.
BUT I have come to just smile and nod at the 'reboot' comments and try my best to ignore the endless reboots of and releases of superhero movies.
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING
joylitt
MemberNeomorphApr-29-2017 2:21 AMThe global box office is going to save the franchise. There is no other way.
dk
MemberTrilobiteApr-29-2017 2:24 AMIDK BWW- If someone said Alien reboot to me regarding AC, I would honestly be- a reboot.....a REboot?.......a REBOOT?!!.....and still probably get the deer in the headlights stare.
Starlogger
MemberChestbursterApr-29-2017 8:08 AM@ninXeno "...sick of superheroes..." YES!!! I cannot take one more crappy Marvel/DC/Batman vs. Superman/XMen comic book superhero movie. They are so over done and saturated now. I enjoyed the EARLY iterations (Superman, Iron Man, Batman) but the sequels...Blech.
S1m0n
MemberOvomorphApr-29-2017 8:12 AMI enjoyed winter soldier, excellent story. I also hate all these remakes although some are ok. e.g looking forward to IT.
Chris
AdminEngineerApr-29-2017 8:24 AMI've been sharing information and articles about Covenant to my own personal Facebook as well so all my friends are more than aware of the new Alien film but indeed it is frustrating that the masses tend to not notice these gems in place of the more generic comic book movies.
@S1m0n, I agree I'm very much looking forward to IT as well!
Starlogger
MemberChestbursterApr-29-2017 8:37 AMAgree with both of ya on "It"...Loved Tim Curry, but it's time for a REAL scary version of it for the theaters (wasn't the original made for TV only?).
Speaking of Stephen King, I think "The Stand" should be made into a MONSTER epic movie, or series of movies. That made for TV thing just didn't work for me, but then again I had read the book twice and of course video (almost) never does the book justice.
S1m0n
MemberOvomorphApr-29-2017 9:01 AMstarlogger , i think i remember reading that they are doing a new version of the stand but not sure if it is a new TV movie or an actual movie.
Ranting Xeno
MemberFacehuggerApr-29-2017 9:47 AMThe problem these days is that movie studios, musicians and any other form of creative facet; create content from which to earn maximum revenue. Unfortunately; we live in a time where the majority is also the lowest common denominator. Where idiots, Neanderthals and druggies are all rampantly thinning the gene pool. This is a trend that can do nothing, if not degrade further.
While the majority remains populated by philistines and the generally ignorant, what motivation or impetus will any creative outlet have to create genuinely engaging content? Why would anyone learn to play an instrument when the masses prefer pitch corrected, computerised voices of the tone deaf but (apparently) famous? Who would spend years penning a novel when absolute drivel like Twilight and 50 Shades would outsell it 100:1?
In terms of movies; it isn’t necessarily the fault of the creators. Yes, they are dumbing it down. Yes, they are swapping story and character development for explosions and flashing lights. Also true is that yes, they are replacing excellent and engaging scripts with menial and boring dialog; with the occasional one liner thrown in. Yes, they are a self-defeating prophecy, in terms of art…but to be successful in business terms; sadly, they simply have to be. Artistry, of any genre, suffers at the hands of the culturally bereft.
It is sad but true; and while the majority speak for us all the quality of content will continue to decline in direct correlation with the devolution of humanity as a species. Already it has been discovered that we have thinned the gene pool to the extent that the genes for fertility are inversely related to those prompting educational attainment.
At this point, and before I start ranting, I will stop my reply short. When I allow my misanthropy to run riot in textual form I invariably get myself in trouble. Apparently, species resolving, topics such as mandatory chemical castration are not supposed to be discussed openly. What I will say is that I agree with the OP and I, too, feel a level of frustration. Not just with this franchise, but with entertainment (and humanity) as a whole.
I am just glad there are some directors, musicians, bands and artists who refuse to comply to the pressure of the lost and hopeless majority – and still create entertaining and thought provoking content for the rest of us. With any luck we will diversify as a species; as they all follow Drake and Lady Gaga back onto the abyssal oceans of devolution, we will remain on dry land enjoying art and culture.
Long live Ridley Scott. Long live anyone who uses an instrument and/or unaltered voice to earn their keep. Long live intelligent and well thought out literature. Long live the culturally aware.
Fuck the rest of them!
Apologies. Rant over.
Take care folks.
RX
Deep Space
MemberFacehuggerApr-29-2017 10:43 AMYou rant away RX ;) Does the soul good once in a while ha ha!
I'm with you on most of those points . . .
One thing I'll add is that, like you end with, there are some nuggets of artistic merit that still break through but (Im UK based) these seem to be jumped on by 'hipster' types and quickly lose some of their shine for that . . . all gets a bit clique!
Ah well! As a former Buddhist monk all I can say is that 'Dhukka' or unsatisfactoryness is part of life and getting more down about things being own only twists the knife deeper :) I guess what I'm trying to say is, there will always be poo - all we can do is try to step around it and not in it!
That is meant to be positive but take it how you will, lol
Raido
MemberFacehuggerApr-29-2017 11:32 AMRanting Xeno, that was the most accurate and amazing description of/lamentation about modern humanity I've ever seen. Please buy yourself a beer. Or a cookie. Whichever you prefer.
I agree with the sentiments expressed by all above me. It's disheartening to see the sniveling masses drooling with anticipation for the next Superhero-Flavor-of-the-Month release by Disnarvel, or yet ANOTHER reboot/remake of a classic film or TV franchise ("reboot" being a euphemism for "ruination," IE, JJTrek). I've been eagerly anticipating the US release of EMPIRE Magazine's May issue and the ALIEN: Covenant article information contained therein, but to my dismay, AC is not going to be the cover feature--Guardians of the Galaxy is. Whenever I see ALL the hype over that film, I am forced to wonder WHY is it such a big deal? It's basically "Star Wars for People Who are too Stupid to Understand Star Wars," with a CGI Racoon and a thirty-year-old man who acts like a twelve-year-old as its central and most-loved characters. I've barely heard a peep about AC, except for some Facebook haters whining about how it's not Blomkamp's A5. Aside from my cousin and my mom (really), I know no one in my social circle who knows or cares.
Which is why I love being on this forum and interacting with my fellow Sick, Twisted B@stards who are as obsessed with the ALIEN films as I. One of the things I love about this community is the depth of thinking I encounter. Here, we discuss things that would frighten most people. Religious and mythological themes, Giger's sexual undertones in...everything, the possibility of AI developing emotions or even a soul... Nowhere do I encounter stuff like this, and I've been a Trekkie since childhood and a Star Wars fanatic since high school, but ALIEN nuts are just a different breed.
So yes, it is frustrating to see the lack of excitement and attention among the general public for AC, but at least we've got this community so we can share our passion, ideas, and excitement for all things ALIEN.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianApr-29-2017 1:19 PMLOL!!!I just found out via my stupid Facebook that my dad had absolutely no idea there was a new Alien movie!I shared the Take me home spot and he had no idea lol.
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for