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joylitt

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First extra for the home video release for "Alien Covenant" emerges. Juggernauts appear in what it seems to be an underground hangar. Any theories about the reasons for discarding this scene? Maybe the audience would question why these starships were not used by David or by Shaw to escape the planet?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alien-covenant-extended-scene-shows-davids-planet-ruins-1025175

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Totally... I wondered as much in the other thread.

The Hanger appeared to be similar to the one in Prometheus where we only saw ONE Juggernaught, when looking at the size of the Juggernaught and Hanger in Alien Covenant from the released official stills or stills from Trailers, it appeared to be about the right size for A Juggernaught.

Then we saw some concept work released that featured a larger bay underneath that held 3 Juggernauts and would imply another could be where the POV originated from.

Seems this deleted scene is pretty much the same.

Indeed the image shared by you is off the Hanger from Prometheus as with these.

These are concepts... there was actually a like Platform that bridged the Hanger Bay Entrance (entrance to inside) and the Juggernauts Front.

 

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joylitt yes. I did not find a still for the clip. But I thought there were more than one juggernaut in there.

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However some Prometheus concepts had more than One Ship per Hanger.

Sorry for only finding low res thumbnail... i will try and replace with full size when i find it

Here is one of Wayne Haags concept for Alien Covenant

This whole Scene on the deleted/extended section would not have taken up much time, and so potentially we have to look at other reasons for its removal apart from Pacing.

And indeed the knowledge to the viewer that Paradise had at least 3 Juggernauts would have rose a lot of Questions, regarding the Engineers response/welcome for the Juggernaught and why David never attempted to use the others

The Deleted Scenes may now not be classed as Canon and so RS/FOX could go the route to explain there was just a Empty Hanger on Paradise/Planet 4

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BigDave Of course many are going to say that David didn't care for leaving the planet before he had completed his experiments. And yet, if the arrival of the Covenant was indeed a chance event, then David would have been very dumb not to use the ships. 

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What if the arrival of Covenant was not by chance? At the end of the movie David uses two security codes on Covenant: his own (David) when asking Mother for entry of the gods into valhalla and Walter's when reporting the mission log. Why did he use his own code if not to inform Weyland-Yutani that he took charge of the two thousands good souls? It could not be yet another 'malfunction', sort of Byron/Shelley confusion.

Another question is: when David told Oram the eggs are waiting for Mother, was he insinuating that the Covenant's computer had the secret assignment to deviate the ship to Paradise and he was actually waiting for their arrival? David did not look at all surprised to see them. Daniels as well insisted a lot in her argument with Oram that it could have been impossible to miss Paradise in their research for a new planet. What if some data was deliberately omitted / obscured by those who had  a hidden agenda with Covenant and her cargo. And there is also the prequel novel to Covenant stating about a conspiracy and attempts to stop the launching of Covenant. Can be all these put together or are just coincidences?

 

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There is more than meets the eye in Alien Covenant. That is the gift of Sir Ridley Scott. 

 

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It also gives Walter (if still intact) a way to pursue the covenant.

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daliens That's what I'm guessing. The Covenant was probably meant to go to Paradise. There are many clues about that, like you say.

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daliens That's what I'm guessing. The Covenant was probably meant to go to Paradise. There are many clues about that, like you say.

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Considering the new teaser "Phobos" that shows members of the crew of the USCSS Covenant being subjected to a psychological "fear" test I can only assume that they were destined for something frightful. I don't believe Fox would invest so much around Covenant story if the movie would not be important to the development of the franchise. Let's see it again and try to find why it's so important and where it can take us next. Big things have small beginnings so if some considered Covenant a small / filler movie it may be because it prepares us for something big. I hope that after the next movie Covenant will be regarded for what it is, a beautiful, dark and timeless gem.

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My only concern is that by keeping things under wraps for so long, it will inevitably burden the next movie with a lot of exposition.

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joylitt "Oh, ye of little faith!"

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daliens "We'll see" haha

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Until then let's see again Covenant. (En)joy(l)it(t)!

 

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lol I am sure interested in watching the deleted scenes :-)

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joylitt I feel you are in danger of becoming a big Alien Covenant fan. Looking forward to seeing your future posts :)

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In the novel it says that after the payload was deployed, the Jugganauts were grounded to stop the infection getting off the planet.

My thoughts have always been that there is a decent chance David has not been on the planet for 10 years. He has been travelling to other places maybe ? It is only his words that he has been there for 10 years.

The Jugganauts not working is also from him if i remember correctly. I think David caused the event that lead to early crew revival. The crew ending up checking out Planet 4 due to this is also all part of the plan.

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quite plausible that each hanger could facilitate more than 1 juggernaught if say, when the ship lands it lands on a rolling landing mechanism that when the ship is secured it the rolls out the way and clears space for another mechanism for the next ship

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This is confusing.  Didn't all the beings on the planet approach the Juggernaut due to them thinking they are going to see their god like visitors but it turned out to be David?

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to myself anyway that's what it looked like. they saw the ship but simply thought it was their gods returning to make sure they hadn't trashed the place.

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