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Typhoon in Japan – Less People in the Theaters

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’Fox also saw Alien: Covenant launch in its final international market with a $2.6 million debut in Japan bringing the film's international cume to $162 million. Covenant's $236.3 global total ranks it as the second largest film in the Alien franchise globally, though it remains $167.1 million behind Prometheus.

Typhoon Talim Triggers Evacuations in Japan Amid Record Rainfall

’Typhoon Talim made landfall on Japan’s Kyushu island Sunday, spurring authorities to call for the evacuation of tens of thousands of residents amid record rainfalls measured in some areas.

Bullet trains operators reported stoppages because of electricity outages and heavy rain. About 110 millimeters (4.3 inches) of rain in one hour was recorded in Oita prefecture, with some areas receiving more in one day than is typical for an entire month, according to NHK.

The Japan Meteorological Agency said it expects Talim to proceed up the Japanese archipelago through Monday and issued warnings of potential landslides and flooding.’

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Residential streets are covered with water due to Typhoon Talim crossing from Kyusyu to Shikoku in Nobeoka City, Miyazaki Prefecture on Sept. 17:

(Photographer: Ichiro Ohara/AP)

Sources:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-17/typhoon-talim-triggers-evacuations-in-japan-amid-record-rainfall

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4325&p=.htm

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joylitt
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Just WOW ati

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Just made for you joylitt

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Jonesy
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even the storm against AC : (

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Another example of how poorly Fox planned the release of Alien Covenant: during typhoon season in Japan. Then the 2.6 million is quite something.

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On what do you base your opinion. 2.6 corresponds roughly to 200k viewers (judging from the japanese average ticket price of 12.77 dollars) on 3 days of a country of 127 millions. Does not seem so good to me.

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Alien Covenant is number one in Japan in spite of threats like typhoon and North Korean rocket launching, so I think is pretty good. I hope the Japanese don't read the imdb reviews and don't watch the youtube media that's full of hatred against Covenant.

http://deadline.com/2017/09/war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-china-opening-it-movie-spider-man-homecoming-mother-international-box-office-1202171328/

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We all know that there is a Grand Conspiracy against the greatest movie of the year.

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Without doubt, if your house disappears in a hurricane, and you have to save your children and your life during/after a disaster caused by flood, you usually do not visit the nearest theater to watch a movie. That is our apparent Grand Conspiracy…

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Yes, but it's also a very prominent holiday weekend in Japan. Box office numbers are often up during what they call Silver Week--So it evens out.

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G. H. (Gman) - Thank you for the info.

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Ati See what you did? You prompted Chris to clarify in a news thread what those numbers mean. Well played, Ati

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joylitt - See what you did? Chris has just read your impossible comment above and can't stop laughing. Not well played, joylitt

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I also wrote this in the other Japan box office thread. It doesn't look like the typhoon affected things too much at the box office, especially since most of the prominent theaters are closer to Fukuoka, but I'm sure some numbers were lost:

The thing is the odds were stacked against it since Japan isn't a very bankable market for Hollywood anymore. They were popular in the country back in the 1990s, but now Japan's film industry is much stronger, with triple the number of screens from the 1990s. As a result, most (not all, but most) Hollywood films are just less attractive to them.

Even Marvel/DC films don't do very well. Wonder Woman will be lucky if it earns more than $12 million by the end of its run.

It's also important to remember that Japan's preferred measurement for box office ranking is theater attendance. This is because movie tickets are often sold depending on the genre, what country it's from, what studio made it, what gender is buying the ticket and what sort of discount day it is. (There are many.)

Alien: Covenant opened on a Holiday weekend and was practically the only major release, but it looks like it's only #1 via more expensive tickets. Attendance-wise it looks like it may have opened as low as #3. I don't know yet, I'm still waiting for more official numbers from Kogyotsushin to be translated.

Attendance is important because it gives us an indicator of how well it will do in the coming weeks. Strong legs is more important to the Japanese box office than opening weekends, but comparing Saturday's number to Sunday's might give an indication of its future.

If it made $2.6M then it likely opened to an estimated audience of 195,000 for the weekend. For comparison that number is a slightly better opening than Wonder Woman (182,092), Ghost in a Shell (171,203), Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (163,143) and Logan (113,600).

More when I have it.

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Can you explain how come a movie with a 6.5 rating on Imdb has so many 1 star rating negative reviews? For me it looks like a trolling campaign, I can't believe those movie goers found nothing worthy of a film and still waste their precious time to write down their negative feelings. I believe, forgive me if I'm wrong, you are one of them, so maybe you can clarify what drives you into this. Are you an Alien fan who cares about the future of the franchise? 

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Well, I am one of them but I don't know anybody else you commented on the movie. I truly despise it because I like Prometheus and the directions it was taken. I recognize that writing here is note completely healthy.

Judging the distribution of the Imdb grades as a Gaussian sample distribution (which it is for 150k+ reviewers) the number of 1s (2.9%) should be somewhere below 1.7% the number of 2s.  The difference of 1% to 1.5% (1500-200) more 1s for me is not very conclusive. This phenomenon appears also with Prometheus with 1.4% 2s and 2.2% 1s, the difference between real and expected is say 1% or 5000 reviews. Saying this, against Prometehus could be argued that there was a bigger hate campaign.

If you want a true hate campaign, look at death note, there 21.6 % of the 41k ratings are 1s, as opposed to the 8% of 2s. 

Ps. Everyone was the right to enjoy whatever movie they want as long as the movies obeys the laws (so no Nazi propaganda or child pedophilia ).

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I am not sure we saw the same movie.

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Apart from tragedies, and misfortunes, (and I'm really sorry to hear those) let's go numbers... No! Let's go release schedules.

May - most of the so called European and American countries.

Any given month - the rest of the world.

I ask, and I mean it: why was that?

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ScorpioStar - 'I ask, and I mean it: why was that?'

That is the question. :D

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@Ati

:D

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The lessons are learnt by them, we hope. :)

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I think it was an experiment to see if the movie can make more money in the most adverse conditions, than it was spent for its production :)

It seems it did.

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Call me easily entertained or what ever, the title of the post really makes me laugh. It will probably be my favorite title of any post this year.

 

Those that dislike the movie and don't want more people to watch AC manipulated the weather against it. :D

 

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'Call me easily entertained or what ever, the title of the post really makes me laugh. It will probably be my favorite title of any post this year.'

Disasters and tragedies usually do not make people laugh but we are different human beings with different thoughts so we have to accept the fact that there are readers who find this post funny.

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Ati:

 

I don't find human tragedies funny. I found the title funny since it read to me like the weather was conspiring against the movie. Please read the second paragraph of my reply. I never made fun of any deaths what so ever nor was it my intention.

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Thoughts_Dreams Don't let Ati give you a hard time. What you said is understood and in any case he is the only one who trivialized a human tragedy with this silly post.

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Thoughts_Dreams - 'Please read the second paragraph of my reply.'

I did. You write: 'Those that... don't want more people to watch AC...' 

It's shocking. I think it's sad and ridiculous that you think that you have to tell others what to do. Everybody has the right to watch a movie and decide on its quality alone. But it is only my opinion...

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Ati In a way I am happy this time I am not the target of your ire. However, I feel sad that you have to embarrass yourself like this. After all, there is a positive side to your virtual persona and I enjoy many of your contributions to this forum. With his line "Those that dislike the movie and don't want more people to watch AC manipulated the weather against it. :D" Thoughts_Dreams  is just ironically describing your mindset, which is: you think that people who didn't like Covenant don't want other people to watch it because it is a big conspiracy. You made that clear many times; either you don't get irony or you try to make people look bad by twisting their words in the hopes the other users didn't read the original post. You should be a good sport and apologize to Thoughts_Dreams.

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Ati: What people enjoy and not is a varied thing. I just laughed at the thought that the weather by some conspiracy crashed it for those that like Alien Covenant and that the biggest problem as far as the head-line is concerned is that many people didn't get to see AC not that people get homeless and other bad things caused by the shitty weather.

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I just think that people should be allowed to like what ever movie they want, doesn't mean that I have to agree with them.

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'I just think that people should be allowed to like what ever movie they want, doesn't mean that I have to agree with them.'

Nobody claimed in this thread that you have to agree with them!

You wrote: 'Those that dislike the movie and don't want more people to watch AC manipulated...'

This sentence is about the fact that there are people (including you?) who don't want more people to watch AC. Members and other readers can understand this sentence, they don't need me to explain it better.

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"This sentence is about the fact that there are people (including you?) who don't want more people to watch AC. Members and other readers can understand this sentence, they don't need me to explain it better."

 

No it is not, once again you misunderstand me. What I mean is that it is like some animated show were they have things doing surreal crap. It is almost like someone gave that weather cloud a conscious so it could decide what ever it would like to do. It is almost like the weather deiced like "what shall I do today (heavily bored)... let's go f shit up!" To me that almost felt like a surreal animated movie with some slightly bizarre things happening that is what made me laugh not the fact that less people could watch it or that it probably cause many people some serious trouble. The head-line made me laugh because of how it was written not that it made less people watch AC (!).

 

As far as the claim that I don't want people to watch AC is kind of irrational. I watched it four times and I am not a huge fan of it but sure people can check it out if they want to.

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'I watched it four times'

Thank you for your support!

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Ati: My support or not shouldn't be an issue here. What is important is that people get a lot of trouble from that bad weather, some maybe die and so on. A movie should be a non-issue compared to that. What is most important: a movie or staying alive? Once again, the focus of the post is bizarre but I am not sure if you get it and no it doesn't matter if you say that "well it fits because it is an alien covenant board".

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