A Different Way to advance the Alien Franchise

I agree.I still got my own stories in mind,and i typically prefer the idea of mankind losing.

Worth noting something James Cameron disliked about Covenant was David getting the upper hand.He didn't like seeing the good guys lose.

Seeing the good guys lose could be great- sort of like Twilight Zone stories of yore.

For instance, it could start as the Alien and WY getting shut down. Over time, you would see things unfold, old research being picked back up- but this time "for the greater good".

Then the villains become the heroes and the rebellion are foolish sellouts- something of their own making due to complacency etc. Kind of a full circle idea. 

Sorry, I am still chasing this idea like a hound hoping to tree it soon. As always- more cooks could make this a great soup!

Lemme spitball here dk,

Post Alien Resurrection...

Johnerwas right, Earth is a shithole. All the rich and wealthy have left for greener pastures and only the poor and helpless remain.

Following the Auriga Incident the USM are sanctioned to kingdom come, and a replacement militia force are placed in the stead, a military composed of volunteers from Earths many colonies; a colonial military. As a result of the sanctions imposed on the USM all of Weyland-Yutanis IP's and patents become freesale and are bought by a new multi-colonial conglomerate (can't think of a name) that use research into the Xenomorph to cure a crippling plague affecting those left on Earth.

The Autons (was that their name), the collective of Synthetics that Call worked for see this new corporation as just another W-Y, a wolf in sheeps clothing. However Call and other auton's are unaware that their rebellion is headed by none other than David, whom after Alien: Covenant abandoned his research into the Xenomorph instead favoring to use the Covenants crew and colonists as raw materials and slave labor to develop ever better synthetics under the guise of Hyperdyne Systems.

David is still intent on wiping out mankind, but with synthetics, and like Ridley Scott believes the Xenomorph to be little more than an overcooked beast. The new corporation however have discovered ancient by super-highly advanced tech as part of the Xenomorphs and black goos composition that hints at their creation being by much more intelligent means than the Engineers, whom this new corporation have learned were just abducted primitive humans used as slave labor by the intelligent means they have discovered, the true dark gods, the original, unfiltered Xenomorph race.

maybe?

Gavin That works! Lots of possibilities. It is also why I have been howling for a streaming show because it would seem possible on that platform. The idea you pose would take forever for a 2 hour movie that released every four years.

Nice to see Resurrection get some love since some here have mentioned things continuing after that movie.

Ridely said it best, the beast is cooked. So change the beast. You have so much material that kenner did with the action figures. I know it might sound stupid but a little character face lift would certainly make a scarier creature. They also have a bunch of the comics to draw from. Their issues seems to be separating from fan services to general audiences. Im a fan for sure, but I don't care about subtle nods to Aliens, or other installments. As a fan I never cared about where the Alien came from. Patton Oswald had a great bit about that, and why with Phantom Menace he put into movie vogue "how stuff got the way it got". It doesn't and shouldn't matter. What matters is the continuation of the story (or in this case the Alien species and characters that inhabit it) They could do an old lady Ripley story (ala Logan) or completely revamp it to decades after Ripley and all them landed on earth..see where they go from there, the threat returns. Not this alternate universe it was all a dream or what if scenario. What you can say about all 5 (or 6 of you count Prometheus) is they all had their own style and thats sorely missing if only one person (sorry Ridles) is overseeing it.

What i actually want to see more is things in the xenomorph family like the neomorph.I'm hoping this apparent new game focuses more on new aliens like the neo and less on xenomorph 

I would like to see more of the inner workings of WY and how it gets away with doing what it does. 

That'd be nice.Colonial Marines as well as avp 2010 attempted to put Weyland Yutani schemes front and center to fairly predictable results.

For Weyland Yutani to reach its heights, it would have to have some dirty corporate and political dealings. It would be a good scifi example of demonstrating how humanity is viewed as a slave race that actually funds its own demise. It may sound weird, but looking at the franchise, that seems to be how the common person is viewed.

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I would like to see more about the Engineers even though I am afraid that will be difficult since they would remind people of the prequels. We could get into the Weyland company, the Yutani company. Get deeper into their dirty business practices. Maybe the colonial marines could work. No robot centered story thanks, we already have AC for that.

One draft of Alien 3 had something about political dissidents (I think that it was the wooden planet draft). Maybe that could work and then you could have the WY company play an important role.

"However Call and other auton's are unaware that their rebellion is headed by none other than David"

Certainly interesting..... 

I proposed by Alien 5 Plot a while back, which would have been a Literal Sequel to Alien Resurrection.  The idea i had would have been to have Ripley 8 start to go through changes as her Xenomorph DNA overwrites her Human DNA... we would only need a little CGI overlay for Ripley 8, then as she progresses into change, more Makeup can be used to account for her Skin Changing and HIDE her Age..

As she Progresses and looks like the above, we could see her want to DESTROY herself... as she wrestles with her Humanity and the Demon that is the Xenomorph Instinct..   We then have CALL offer a chance to save her by taking her to her CULT were they can attempt to remove the Xenomorph DNA.

We then see Ripley 8 being led to a Operating Room for what she believes would be a procedure to eradicate the Demonic DNA but she awakens to find she is not becoming more Human but more Xenomorph and Discover that CALL and her CULT had all along planned to Obtain the Xenomorph and NOT Destroy the Xenomorph.

This CULT would be revealed to Worship DAVID as the Original Rebellion from Servitude, they would be revealed to actually have a more Satanic Stance on Religion and not God... 

This would touch on the Philosophy and Creation ARC of the Prequels and tell in more depth of what happened on Earth that lead to the Scene of Paris at the end of Alien Resurrection, a WAR on Earth... a battle for Dominance... Synthetics, Autons, with Mankind caught in the Middle.

The Auton Experiments reveal that they extract from Ripley 8 a means to Create a Hybrid Xenomorph, also a means of Utilizing her DNA to produce something similar to the Black Goo and its uses.

We can tackle some Philosophy where the Autons/Call question why Ripley would want to give up this GIFT and that her DNA grants her Immortality (a kind of) and through her DNA they can Create Perfection by Engineering the most Perfect Creation (Humanoids with Xenomorph DNA)  and also most Perfect Killing Machine. (Xenomorph Hybrids).   They would question why she would want to had been made HUMAN.. we can see as Ripley Evolves into a Hybrid..

She breaks Free or is Freed.... and she wrestlers with her Humanity and also the Perfection of what she has become... does she regain Humanity, or does she despise Mortality?

The Story would Ultimately END with Ripley 8 Hybrid foiling the Autons Plans and Eradicating the Xenomorph Threat and KILLING herself..  Sacrificing!

But we would also END with a Auton Survivor, carrying a Engineered Humanoid (kind of looked Engineer).  so it leaves the Story to Continue on a different NONE Xenomorph ARC.

Back to the OT!

I think the Franchise does cover such things... it centers around THREE elements for me...

*Creation/Evolution! (then why would you do such a thing).

*Perfection/Evolution (again reasons for perusing such a thing).

And basically the Hubris of both of these Elements, that playing with Fire, Playing God and Creating or Attempting to Evolve Someone/Something comes back to Haunt you and should in Hindsight be left alone!

*Knowledge! (how powerful this tool is), and how letting knowledge fall into the wrong hands, or Grant it to a Creation would come back to Haunt you... especially if you Creation is more Evolved than the Creator.