RAISED BY DAVID AND WALTER
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https://www.ibc.org/trends/behind-the-scenes-raised-by-wolves/6326.article
“This is not a continuation of the world building done with Alien in Prometheus and Covenant but I still feel this is in the same universe as those worlds,” says Emery, who was second unit photographer on The Matrix and Alien: Covenant, and cinematographer on The Wolverine. “Ridley is particularly interested in using androids as an analogue for the human race and questioning what happens if we elevate the humans who created the androids to the status of god.”
“No one has ever seen anything like this before,” - Ross Emery


https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/raised-by-wolves-first-look-kelly-marie-tran-monsterland
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Hey Guest, want to add your say?

Thanks, dk.
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Luke Scott ... (3 episodes) Ridley Scott ... (2 episodes, 2020) Alex Gabassi ... (2 episodes) Sergio Mimica-Gezzan ... (2 episodes) James Hawes ... (1 episode)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9170108/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
Nice body

Strange Creature, from Mother´s Lab.


I wonder if that neomorph-like creature is going after everyone or targeting specific people for some sort of punishment.

Why HBO Max’s Sci-Fi Drama ‘Raised by Wolves’ Is Just Like ‘Little House on the Prairie’
“You see explicitly the kinds of struggles that parents go through,” says executive producer David Zucker



I think its HARD to Gauge a Trailer/Teaser as with some you have Dialog added to SHOTS that are NOT actually in the Movie/TV Show or Certainly the Dialog is taken from another Scene and added to another in the TRAILER.
A Example is with Prometheus is the Engineer at the Beginning.

Also the Order of Scenes in Trailers could be Totally Different to how they appear in a Movie/TV Show.
Which then BRINGS me to DK
"I wonder what these bones are about"
Well it looks like some kind of DRAGON or a Dinosaur and maybe we have to look at HOW we have Ridley Scott use a lot of Symbolism.... Now we know the Xenomorph had been referred to as The Dragon a few times...
But this is NOT a Alien TV show.... but i think maybe the Dragon has some Symbolism. The Devil/Satan is also referred to as The Dragon, the Great Deceiver and the Show will have some Religious Undertones
Also the WOLF has to be Important too... there is that Saying.... A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing.... which again is someone who is TRYING to Deceive.
So those Bones could be of a Dragon.... this Dragon could be Connected to MOTHER, we see Mother goes on to have SUPER POWERS..... maybe and this is a Speculative LONG SHOT...
Could SHE be the Spirit of a Dragon? Has their Species been Destroyed? But the SOUL will Dwell looking for a HOST?
Does a Android Body become that HOST?
She seems to have a Connection to that Skeleton.... or at least something Buried under it... she also seems to have a Connection with the Giant Hole in the Ground.
Could it be the Scenes of WAR on Earth are Actually in the Future as in ONCE she Turns into one of the X-Men she then goes to Earth?
The only other Option would be that this Super Hero Robot has destroyed the Earth and then Disguised herself to then go out and PUT a STOP to Mankind getting a New Start....
OR.... the other Female in the other Scene on Future Earth is another of her Species/Super Android.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


The Cave Painting could be a Rocket/Ship
A lot of Symbolism from Cave Paintings do have Spiral Lines as a indication of Change, Evolution, Life.... when its ONE Spiral it also can be Journey, Progression.
Inside that Ship Painting we have what looks like a Depiction of a Virus with Rays coming from it.... in a lot of Ancient Cave Paintings and Ancient Culture the LIGHT of Rays of the Sun... represent LIFE and Creation.
Now the THING that has come out of the Ship is a Circle with many Spiral Lines... which usually indicate Change, Evolution and Life...
While this could sound like it FITS... from the Symbolism and Drawings..... i do DOUBT that its showing a Engineer Urn being used to Destroy/Create Life LOL
If this was a Trailer for a ALIEN Movie or TV Series though and we never saw SUPERHUMAN X-Men Android, but a world with such Cave Painting.... i would be drawn to a Engineer Urn Conclusion lol
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Adding to the speculation, this picture could suggest something that happens to Mother after some sort of revolt. However, the clothing is different and may suggest a medical android during the war on Earth- perhaps being tortured by humans.

I think its a little HARD to work out what is going on
with the TV Series....
From the Original Synopsis it seemed we would have a TV Series where TWO Androids would be raising some Children up on a New World, maybe as Part of a NEW START for Mankind without the Influences and History and Religions of Mankind that can cause CONFLICTS.
So these Androids are Raising the Children to start a New Civilization without any Negative Ideology, BUT
then we have other Humans who come to this World who
have their Varied Belief Systems and the Androids have a Hard Task in trying to Balance what they TAUGHT those Children and the Influences from the other HUMANS and HOW these could Impact those Children and the Androids could become CONCERNED such Influences could have a NEGATIVE EFFECT on the Children and maybe lead to this NEW START and Civilisation just becoming as Corrupt and Conflicted as Mankind on Earth had become.
HOWEVER....
The Trailer adds some things that maybe show there is MUCH more to it than this.
We see some Silver/Grey Female Being that can LEVITATE and maybe has other Powers.... we see this being is NOT only on the world the TV Series is SET ON but also a Developed/Futuristic World which we are shown is EARTH.
And so it seems to indicate that Mother could be this POWERFUL being or ONE of them. If there is ONLY the
ONE such being then this BEING must either have LEFT the Earth after causing Destruction and gone to the NEW EDEN or it leaves the NEW EDEN to go to Earth to cause Destruction.
It appears the Incoming Humans may know the Identity and Agenda of Mother and wishes to Prevent what she is
doing, but is this in the Interest of those Children (is the way she is Raising them Harmful/Concerning) or are these Humans part of a NEW CULT and see that Mother is trying to Deny those Children the Religion and History of this CULT?
It seems there is a Hostility towards Sub-Creation/Robots, and so WHO has disabled those Robots?
Is this Mother out of FEAR they can Interfere with her PLANS or is it the Humans because they WISH to Destroy all Androids/Robots and A.I because of the Concerns of the POTENTIAL RISK and THREAT they can Pose?
I think a LOT of the Mystery could come from WHAT is down in that BIG HOLE.... we see Mother does CALL to something that is Down there.
She also seems to have a Interest in that Skeletal Remains of a Dinosaur/Dragon.
I think there could be MORE than meets the EYE with this Show that we cant really GAUGE much at Present.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017



Always room for cute kittieh vids/gifs. It's their internetz after all. :D
On to Ponderings & Thoughts...
Man creates Machine
Man eradicates Man
Machines resurrect Man
This seems to be what's going on here, how it feels. I might be wrong, as I am deliberately staying away from the trailers and info...it's just a 'gut feeling' that I should avoid it for the present, which is not a condemnation of this new series, it's just how I protect my creative mind from unwanted influencing when working at times.
However, I have seen trailers on tv, unavoidably, of course.
And old episode of Outer Limits had androids raising Humans, a Human anyways--same basic idea at work. Then there's 'I Am Mother' as was pointed out above...and I suspect other works in the same theme.
One favorite quote, from the original Planet Of The Apes:
"I'm a seeker too. But my dreams aren't like yours. I can't help thinking that somewhere in the universe there has to be something better than man. Has to be."
This ties into something I have had in development for a few years now, and goes beyond the whole machine-serving-man dynamic...and what it takes to be god. I'll be putting some 'appetizers' up here in the future, as it does connect fully with my ALIEN works, set in the same universe.
'We are the gods now'
Well, if one looks at the gods in myth and history...they often all had their own plans and agendas and warred over them. ;)
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING



I usually don't get caught up in what actors are in a film or show. I just want it to be good. It's a decent preview but is a bit spoilerish.

Hollywood Reporter:
<<Alien prequels, but if later episodes were to introduce a xenomorph or facehugger, it could surely be a companion to Prometheus and Alien: Covenant (with just a bit of Kingdom of Heaven, thanks to those pesky Templar-esque Mithraics). Scott is transfixed by the show's production landscape and its hostile mixture of mountains and barren desert, captured with its own humanity-averse, washed-out color scheme.>>
<<Mother and Father could absolutely be white-blooded siblings to the late, great Ian Holm's Ash in an exploration of what happens when artificial intelligence evolves beyond its design and takes on an almost divine condescension toward humanity. Mother and Father's reverence for their human Creator — just one of many points of on-the-nose irony relating to these condemners of religious faith — is at least something worth exploring even if after six episodes I'm not sure Guzikowski has anything more profound to say than, "Fundamentalism comes in several varieties, all scary.">>

New beautiful photos and a spoilers free review in this link:
https://www.ign.com/articles/raised-by-wolves-review-hbo-max-spoiler-free


"I'm a seeker too. But my dreams aren't like yours. I can't help thinking that somewhere in the universe there has to be something better than man. Has to be."
Certainly i think that the Subject of Innocence of a Child and the Effect of Knowledge and Upbringing and Desires and Ambitions which can LEAD to a Number of Negative Human Desires like Greed, Power are all Interesting and it will be Interesting to see how RBW will Deal with these.
If we look at the PLOT then Mother and Father would know the RISK of such Ways of Mankind could have on a New Humanity.
They could Raise and Nurture this 6 Children, we could see Generation after Generation come from those Children where things could be MAINTAINED in Harmony and Peace.. but Eventually you could get some WHO may Start to Think and have Desires that Mother could see as being the SEED to the Path to the Same kind of Ways that lead to Mankinds Downfall.
In this case.... maybe Mother would have to be a LITTLE HARSH ;) and Prevent anyway Thinking or Action that could Effect the GOAL of a New Eden and Mankind that will NOT have the Flaws and Thinking and Ways that lead to our Downfall.
But ALAS.... Mother does-not get to see Generations come from her Children... because of Incoming Humans...
And so those Few 10-15 Year Olds we see in the Black/Dark Uniforms with the White Mithraics have already had Imprinted on them the ways of Mankind and i do Suspect that Mother may NOT been keen on them Contaminating the Minds of her Children.
So seeing WHAT she may do to some of them could be Interesting and i Suspect her Actions could be something Father does NOT approve of.... and THEN.... if she is Found Out by her Children what she MAY do to some of the Children from Earth..... HOW would this affect her Children to see a Dark Side of Mother?
I wonder if we see some of David in Mother?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

maybe Mother would have to be a LITTLE HARSH ;) and Prevent anyway Thinking or Action that could Effect the GOAL of a New Eden and Mankind that will NOT have the Flaws and Thinking and Ways that lead to our Downfall.
This might be another layer to the over all story that humans require to be led/controlled since left to their own devices, their downfall is inevitable.

Here is a review of the initial shorter trailer. There are things that have pretty much been analyzed on the Forum and some things have been answered from the newest trailer, but there are also some additional observations and questions asked that we have not discussed to my knowledge. There are no spoilers in the 20 minute video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZMeRoGw6uo

Yeah, @BigDave. I thought the same. The Mother of Raised By Wolves probably has identical concepts of Alien Awakening/David's Mother.
Here's an interview with Amanda Collin and Abubakar Salim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Byjw9yIAFk
and one more spoilish review:

@DK
Yeah the 2nd New Trailer does change our Perception of the Show compared to the First ;) so things we could Speculate in the First Trailer, we have a Slight Change of Opinion with the New Trailer as it reveals more ;)
@setaverde
Thanks for the Interview Share ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


https://ew.com/tv/raised-by-wolves-clip-ridley-scott/
Here is a Little Teaser Clip....
WARNING... the Page it is on gives some Information that would be Considered a Spoiler, the CLIP also could be Considered a Spoiler.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Nice clip. Can already see how the tension is going to build. I think the clip ended just before a spoiler.

It only gives away some of the FATE regarding the Children is all ;)
Things that some of the Reviews had Revealed are there was 6 Initial Children via Embryo's and that the World they got to was indeed Kepler 22B
Not too BIG a Spoiler is that Mother and Co have been on Kepler 22B for 12 Years before the Arrival of other Humans.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Thanks, @BigDave. Poor child raised by that two Wolves. Probably will turn into a monster.

In Roman mythology, twins Romulus and Remus were raised by wolves. Legend says they later founded the city of Rome.

Now you got me Thinking ;)

In the First Trailer we see Amanda Collin (Mother) with a Child but she has LONGER HAIR than we see with Mother in the other Shots....... in the Latest Trailer we see Mother with the First Child and she has the SHORT HAIR that we see Mother with throughout most of the Footage.
I am Wondering if the First Image of a Child when Mother had Long Hair could be..... Marcus (Travis Fimmel)
WHY would he also be Kneeling Down to those Stone Temples?
Is Kepler 22B the Birthplace of the Mithraic Cult?
Is this WHY we see him Kissing Mother in the One Shot?

I think this is also a Character played by Amanda Collin and so does she Play TWO Characters? Does she just play MOTHER from TWO different Time Peroids?
Is this Cave Shot set on Kepler22B or is it on Earth and so similar to Dr Shaw's discoveries on Earth, what Drove people to this Place to Find the GODS?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Lots of ideas and concepts we discussed on this forum have made their way into the Raised by Wolves series such as colonization of a desolate planet, crash landing of a spaceship, prehistoric flora and fauna, rouge androids, android cut open for surgery, replacing parts of android, remains of an ancient civilization etc. And it is not over yet.
What concepts are left for the Alien series?

* Silence Means Security *

"What concepts are left for the Alien series?"
Thats a Good Point....
Not much to Really think about as a LOT has been Covered in the Franchise.
Apart from....... Interdimensional/Extradimensional Horrors/Beings ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

NTFS:
"What concepts are left for the Alien series?"
There are parts that can be used and given an alien-twist. Just because other things have been used in other movies doesn't mean that they must be put on the shelf and never be revisited. Coming up with something completely new is difficult but if they can be used in the franchise and be used in a clever way then why not?

Fate of Alien boss's new sci-fi show with Vikings star revealed
It has been picked up for a second season.
Ridley Scott's sci-fi series Raised by Wolves has been picked up for a second season by HBO Max.
The show has been a hit for the streaming service since it premiered earlier this month, so announcing another 10-episode series will no doubt please fans.
Raised by Wolves, which stars Vikings' Travis Fimmel, follows two androids called Mother (Splitting Up Together's Amanda Collin) and Father (Jamestown's Abubakar Salim) who care for a group of human children, while also fending off other killer robots.
HBO
Ridley Scott said in a statement (via The Wrap): "Being a dyed-in-the-wool advertising man, I was knocked out by the extraordinary campaign done by HBO Max marketing, which conveyed the ambitious storyline in such a provocative and tactile manner, and deftly positioned our first season of Raised by Wolves as a 'must watch' show.
"It must have been a notable challenge to selectively plumb the riches In Aaron's [Guzikowski, writer] storylines. We were even happier that audiences have responded so enthusiastically."
The Alien: Covenant director confirmed the team are already developing storylines for the second season and they're looking promising.
"We are already deep into the 'layers' of season 2, as Aaron has begun to shape what we think will be another brilliant season to inspire the imagination."
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a34088259/ridley-scott-rasied-by-wolves-season-2/


Next Alien Movie, starring Amanda Collin. Please, Ridley, please, make it happen!



While we wait for the episodes 8, 9 and 10 of the hit show 'Raised by wolves', i have a souvenir for my fellow marine comrads, the comic series 'Aliens: dead orbit', of James Stokoe.
Here's the link,
https://getcomics.info/other-comics/aliens-dead-orbit-tpb-2018/



Yeah, I am going to proceed with my idea that challenges RBW in Storytelling.
Not immediately, aside from a Vignette or two, as I have a lot else on my plate.
But I can do Better, and I won't be relying on special effects over writing-quality.
I love RS and his son as they are proven and do great work, but I am uncertain about the other directors and producers...they seem more interested in recycling Sci-Fi trope and slathering things over with special-effects.
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING


Raised by Wolves - Main Theme (Opening Titles) by Ben Frost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs4yX4V7NQ
Raised By Wolves: "Depths of Bliss"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBtuO6dN3To&list=PLxKgOL62ZcRKgYu6BYvSA-PUyDhRI0pQM
Raised by Wolves Episode 9 End Credits Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPujgdga_hA&list=PLxKgOL62ZcRKgYu6BYvSA-PUyDhRI0pQM&index=13
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