Farewell

So much drama over RbW. First @Blackwinter-witch, now @SuperAlien. The question arises - who will be next? It seems that RbW has not brought anything of value to our humble community. Rather, on the contrary, it had a destructive effect.

It looks like we need to get back on the path of the Alien and the androids from our main universe. And do not fall under the bad influence of RbW. Until our community disintegrated in the confusing messages of another franchise.

SuperAlien,

This is truly heartbreaking please do not leave!

No one is going anywhere...if anything this will make everything easier to have conversations about RBW...No one is against you and no one ever has been against you!

We miss you very much...I miss you SuperAlien!!!!! PLEASE COME BACK!

Everyone say something!!!! NOW!

SuperAlien

RBW deserved it's own space, as whether people like it or not, it needs to be given the respect of having it's Own Space, right?

Please don't leave over this!!

You're one of the best contributors here, and I hope you can see that RBW is so VERY much it's Own and Unique Thing that it pretty much screamed like a Necromancer for it's own space instead of being kedged in here amongst ALIEN related stuff that overshadows it.

Whether people love it or hate it, it has Power, and it's getting Respect even from those who dislike it.

Relocation was an act of respect for it, please try to see that?

...and please don't leave. ((HUG))

@SuperAlien - I mean, i'm working on getting Raised by Wolves a proper sub-site here, I really like RBW and am active on the reddit so no idea why you would think I have anything against the series or Ridley Scott. I'm a fan of both...

I'm an admin here, I have to do admin things sometimes and moving posts to the appropriate places is part of the job. I'm in the process of moving every RBW thread to here and have explained why on each of them, i've also requested people post any future RBW material to the proper forum from now on (Currently it's SciFi Television). This move has nothing to do with you or RBW, it's a simple logistical choice.

Like I said, if there is enough interest in this series here I will be working on getting a proper Raised By Wolves subsite, Scified Television is where it should be for now, it doesn't belong in any other site as it is it's own series and that helps with searches when people want to look up the series. 

Anyways, i'm sorry you're upset and hope you return. 

Svanya

WELL said and explains much most of us likely never considered!!

I hope he comes back/doesn't leave...I hope he understands this is all about getting RBW it's own proper home/showcase.

They will be BACK ;)

I already gave my TWO CENTS on this HERE

Basically i think it was OK that we had Subjects on this Forum in regards to RBW, as it was a bit more Relevant to the kind of Sci-Fi that some ALIEN Fans would go and WATCH, but i also AGREE that it Needed its OWN part of the SITE as having 1-2 Subjects on the Matter is Fine, but if there becomes Many then it could CLOG UP the ALIEN Forums with None-Related Subjects.

I'm back!

Apologies if I offended anyone, blame it on my acid blood.

If we are kind, it would be a kind world.

But we are not kind enough and the good things do not happen.

I cannot watch Raised by Wolves yet, but I watch Man in the High Castle, another series produced by Scott Free. It would be just fine to have access to parallel worlds, one where the sequel to Alien Covenant would happen, I would happily live in that world than here where things are stuck.

Would you make another ‘Alien’ movie?
In a heartbeat. I loved working with Ridley and I loved playing that part. I hope we can! I would love it! I hope she’s still alive! (Katherine Waterstone)

I hope to see you again, Daniels!

Yay! Glad you're back. Just make sure you stay.

SuperAlien

(((HUG)))
We all have 'Human Moments'...comes with the territory. :)

While we're waiting on the The Industry to let RS do another ALIEN story, in the meantime, our little nest here in the dark keep the essence of the franchise alive...

...Close to our hearts. ;)

SuperAlien,

YOU HAVE COME BACK! Big hug!

I cannot believe you ran away from home! What were you thinking?

And what was it like out there in the waste-land?????? Did you encounter savage posters and chatters in strange websites?

We were all very concerned!

BD cried for weeks! LOOOOOOL

Alien brothers and sisters,

Thank you for your kindness and concerns, I was deeply moved.

Some days are worse than others, however there is no excuse for SuperAlien to behave in such a pathetic manner. 

Believe you me, I am here to stay and we better move on to the more interesting threads.

Home is where you hive is.

SuperAlien Glad to hear the change of heart. 

Hi, it's good to have you back. The more people that participate in this forum the better. We might not agree about everything but that's just fine. I think that it's important to be able to handle criticism.

To critisize something isn't the same as being mean, it can be done in different ways. Just because I say that I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I dislike you as a person. People should be able to separate those two things, otherwise you can't be on any message-board. Just to take an easy example that I think that you can relate to there are six canonical alien-movies and the AVP’s if we include them. Eight movies in the franchise, it would be strange if everyone would like everything.

Keep in mind also that there were also the shorts, they were of various quality and people probably have their likes and dislikes among them. When I say that I'm not really a fan of let's say Alien Covenant, or Raised By Wolves, that isn't me saying that I have something personal against you. My point is that I can say that Alien Covenant is boring without you then getting upset, and me for example when someone says that Alien 3 (which I really like) is garbage. Someone might not like Alien 3, but I'm fine with that, it's about allowing different opinions without calling each-other idiots or what ever.

Welcome back, stick around. If I have written something that comes off as hostile and negative towards a person then maybe I need to think about how I write things. Personally I'm here to discuss the franchise, I'm not here to be mean towards anyone.

Thoughts_Dreams, without being political, do you think Mr. Trump is mean or he just has different opinions?

I think it is mean to say that something is garbage or boring, knowing that it will hurt some people feelings.

I do not judge you, I have my mean side as well, that's something I am not proud of.

Some people simply enjoy being mean and I know you are not one of them and my decision to leave would have been annihilated by a shot of scotch that unfortunately is out of reach for the moment.

I have nothing against you personally, nor against anyone else on this forum, I am against comments that might prejudice the happening of any new film in the franchise, in case anyone involved with the production does some fanbase research. They would be utterly confused and would wonder why bother if they could not please at least the hardcore fans?

I, for one, trust Ridley Scott, and I want him involved in the next film, at least that would guarantee we won't get the equivalent of The Predator or some Marvel Alien.

If the next film fails, I am afraid it will be the end of Alien.

SuperAlien

Trump, I think that he has different opinions compared to other people but I also think that it seems that he likes to be the boss and tell people what to do. When I said that I think that RBW is boring I meant it as to say that it's not my thing but if you like it then you're of course allowed to have that opinion. I think that I should have used other words but my opinion on it hasn't changed. Some people might like RBW, good for them but I don't. Nothing personal against you

My reason for getting that forced in my opinion about it is that if that show will do alright then it might mean a green-light for Ridley to continue on with his David-movies, and I don't want that. If some people like them good for them but I'm not fine with them being that much about David. He could work if they re-made him a bit and toned down his role which isn't to say that he couldn't be in it at all but that’s just my opinion.

“Some people simply enjoy being mean and I know you are not one of them…”

Thanks, I try to do my best but I also prefer if people tell me if I do or say something wrong, that is an opportunity to learn.

“...I am against comments that might prejudice the happening of any new film in the franchise...”

Not sure what you mean by that, can you explain a bit? I think that if people don't like what is being done in a franchise that they like then they should be allowed to critisize it, that can be said in different ways though and maybe that's where I failed. To voice different opinions is what discussions are for, right?

Scott could be involved with the visuals of the movie, he is really great at making things look good. I don’t throw crap on his ability to do that. What I dislike is his choice to make it all about David and to interfere with the story because writing and story-things is where I think that he makes a mess. This is not some I hate Scott thing, it is just that I think that even he should try to understand his limits. I am not good at everything, and neither is he.

Thoughts_Dreams androids can be very mean if given the choice and more terrifying than xenomophs. Imagine a world ruled by androids. Are we that far from it? Or do you prefer the engineers?

I think it is too late now to continue David's story and Ridley Scott understood that. That is one reason he chose to make Raised by Wolves.

But we should let creators do their thing instead of winning constantly about one flaw or the other. Honestly, I am grateful for every film Ridley Scott will helm and hope to be many.

Androids, replicants are the future and one day they will be making their own films. Imagine how it will be on an android forum when some will complain he doesn't want humans in the films, but better written android characters. Wouldn't that be a mean android?

SuperAlien:

It depends on how we program them, I don't see why we should give them that ability. In reality it could be interesting but as far as the Alien Franchise is concerned I'm more interested in the Engineers because they seem more mysterious and alien. The androids no matter how fascinating some people find them, are too close to humans and that's why I'm against the idea of having David as the creator of the monster although I can see the reason behind that. He was more interesting in Prometheus when he just wasn't an asshole but he was too evil in AC.

Thematically David is interesting, story-wise I prefer the Engineers. If I would have to just pick one I wish that they would continue with the Engineers which would make more sense if we talk about continuing to explore who the one in the chair was and which is what Ridley wanted to look up in the beginning of the prequels.

“But we should let creators do their thing instead of winning constantly about one flaw or the other.”

I don't agree with that, they can do what they want but I also think that the audience have their right to let them know if we don't like it. If someone gives you a moldy bread and makes you eat it, would that be acceptable to you just because some of the cheese seems fine and just because the chef is famous? To me the answer would be no, and it's the same thing here. Just because Scott is involved with something and has done good movies before doesn't mean that we can't say no when he makes bad choices with respect to the good movies that he has made.

“Wouldn't that be a mean android?”

Not necessarily, it could be but it depends on how the criticism is being made. I understand your point but I think that people should be allowed to have different opinions. They could have androids in it because it worked in the other movies but it's too much about them, that's what I'm against. Not sure if I would be interested in a Star Wars-movie about Ewoks either even though they are cute.

It might be healthier to eat a moldy bread from a trusted chef than a hamburger. Or popcorn.

SuperAlien

Very happy you elected not to leave!!

I'll keep this short, I am having an unusually unpleasant day, health-wise so shorter will ensure clarity.

You've been a member here for a long time, and would be Missed. Also, as you said, home is where the hive is. :D

Well, this is your hive, and mine, ours...secreted away from the thunderous ramblings of the Uber-Franchises where we can trade our thoughts, further delving into the mysteries that tease us in the ALIENverse.

We are better for you having elected to stay with us. (HUG)

Blackwinter-witch I am very humbled by your kindness and I wish you  get better and over the unpleasant day, this tight knit nitpicking community needs you more than you might think.

Hug you back.

I would like to share a song with you, hope you'll like it, although the singer is most likely unknown to many outside Sweden, but people usually support fame and popularity more than talent:

https://youtu.be/l_lLcQCNilQ