Episode 5 – In Space No One Spoiler Discussion

My favorite episode so far too. My only nitpick was already addressed by an interview with Noah Hawley and that was how poorly Boy Kavalier handled the sabotage. 

I also enjoyed episode 5 as it was the most "alien" so far.   I think T ocellus is highly aggressive and even tried unsuccessfully to take over the xeno. I also wonder if it has hypnotic or telekinetic powers as I think it may have messed with the lady scientist's mind while she was feeding the "space ticks" and made her forget to put the seal back on the containment jar.   We only saw two of those ticks in the earlier episodes but it sure looked like there were a lot more on the loose after the engineering apprentice died.   I also don't recall seeing what caused the hole in the floor in the lab.  That seems to have been created before the advent of the xeno that we see creating havoc on the ship. So was there another xeno that we haven't seen yet or did I miss something?   

I honestly thought at first the ocellus was trying to warn her. Then I realized it was distracting her. It's frightfully intelligent. I think the acid could have been from the failed removal of the facehugger off the captain. 

I havent watched it yet but my popcorn is ready. Cant wait. :p

good to hear it’s one of the best episodes. 

My favorite episode so far too. My only nitpick was already addressed by an interview with Noah Hawley and that was how poorly Boy Kavalier handled the sabotage.

My favorite episode also. It was like watching an Alien movie. No teenagers and boring storylines. I hope it continues that way.

I honestly thought at first the ocellus was trying to warn her. Then I realized it was distracting her. It's frightfully intelligent. I think the acid could have been from the failed removal of the facehugger off the captain.

I also thought it was trying to warn her. Then I watched it again and saw how it distracted her.

I also enjoyed episode 5 as it was the most "alien" so far.   I think T ocellus is highly aggressive and even tried unsuccessfully to take over the xeno. I also wonder if it has hypnotic or telekinetic powers as I think it may have messed with the lady scientist's mind while she was feeding the "space ticks" and made her forget to put the seal back on the containment jar.   We only saw two of those ticks in the earlier episodes but it sure looked like there were a lot more on the loose after the engineering apprentice died.   I also don't recall seeing what caused the hole in the floor in the lab.  That seems to have been created before the advent of the xeno that we see creating havoc on the ship. So was there another xeno that we haven't seen yet or did I miss something?

I too thought the Ocellus was trying to warn her. I think it was smart enough to perceive that the crew were vital for its safe transport to wherever it was going and then dying or letting other hostile organisms loose would pose a problem. I’m fully convinced it was trying to warn her but also convinced the Ocellus only cares about itself and its own self interests. It’s calculated so Xeno poses bigger threat than Humans. Had it won the battle with the Xeno, I wonder how it would have acted.

But you bring up a very good point – how did the acid hole get there. You’re right, no Aliens had got injured or loose or cocooned there as far as we know… Plot “hole”… 😂

Was hoping the monsters got that female captain first. Her voice was like nails on a blackboard.

I honestly thought at first the ocellus was trying to warn her. Then I realized it was distracting her. It's frightfully intelligent. I think the acid could have been from the failed removal of the facehugger off the captain.

After thinking more about it I think the acid burn on the floor is from the failed facehugger removal on the captain. They just decided to tell us about it rather than show us as Alien did with Kane.  T. Ocellus was in my humble opinion first trying to distract and then trying to warn the lady science officer about letting the space ticks loose. I think the eyeball was trying to get the scientist to leave its lid loose but the signals got crossed. But the eyeball must have succeeded in part because it was able to escape.  I think the eyeball is intelligent enough to see the danger of those space ticks running loose. They may end up being a future "black plague" type event because their embryos can be injected into water.  

Oh, true that is quite possible, the acid burn being from when they tried removing the Facehugger off the captain. That makes sense.

The tick aliens though – they do pose a serious risk, if they get to a body of water, no telling how aggressive they could multiply and spread.

The xenomorph patiently stood right in front of the captain yet does not kill her (!) trips her with its tail (?) allows her to get back up on her feet (!!) and she successfully runs away in the worst Disney chase scene since Leia and the bandits in the terrible Obi-Wan series.  The xenomorph charges after her way faster than any human could possibly run yet she outruns it. I get that some characters have plot armor but this is ridiculous. First Hermit and now this captain avoid getting killed in encounters with the xeno despite being served on a silver plate. Who writes this?? Yes she does get killed at the end so I guess the xenomorph realized it's a killing machine after all. 

Also in the beginning of the episode no one seems to react a lot to the fact that two of their crew members were facehugged and one of them (previous captain) having his whole throat melted by acid. That young kid even made jokes in this inappropriate situation. It's so off-putting and unrealistic despite that I really try my best to suspend my disbelief at all times but this is Idiocracy-level idiotic.

Morrow singlehandedly carried this episode and just barely saved it from being almost unwatchable. 

Nitpicks (and there are many) include the "perfect organism" xenomorph (well not anymore thanks to Disney) struggling in a fight against a possessed human, the editing with occasional scene fade outs killing any ounce of suspense, Ikea-quality glass cylinders that are supposed to contain highly dangerous organisms, hentai tentacle monster tapping the glass to warn the scientist (lol), a junior/trainee engineer so shockingly stupid I'm surprised he even manages basic daily routines, and so many throwbacks to Alien that even Fede Alvarez' love letter Romulus fade in comparison. 

The good parts were the scenes with Morrow, some impressive CGI (especially the facehuggers and the xenomorph) the shootout scene against the traitor and the appearance of the infected senior engineer, looking like he came straight from The Thing. 

This series is like a high-budget YouTube fan film. Severely flawed yet occasionally entertaining.

My take on the crews indifference to the facehuggers is that i think they're pretty used to death. 65 years. I'm certain there's been casualties. I'm guessing at intervals there have been crew replacements

I also enjoyed episode 5 as it was the most "alien" so far.   I think T ocellus is highly aggressive and even tried unsuccessfully to take over the xeno. I also wonder if it has hypnotic or telekinetic powers as I think it may have messed with the lady scientist's mind while she was feeding the "space ticks" and made her forget to put the seal back on the containment jar.   We only saw two of those ticks in the earlier episodes but it sure looked like there were a lot more on the loose after the engineering apprentice died.   I also don't recall seeing what caused the hole in the floor in the lab.  That seems to have been created before the advent of the xeno that we see creating havoc on the ship. So was there another xeno that we haven't seen yet or did I miss something?I too thought the Ocellus was trying to warn her. I think it was smart enough to perceive that the crew were vital for its safe transport to wherever it was going and then dying or letting other hostile organisms loose would pose a problem. I’m fully convinced it was trying to warn her but also convinced the Ocellus only cares about itself and its own self interests. It’s calculated so Xeno poses bigger threat than Humans. Had it won the battle with the Xeno, I wonder how it would have acted.But you bring up a very good point – how did the acid hole get there. You’re right, no Aliens had got injured or loose or cocooned there as far as we know… Plot “hole”… 😂

Lots of plot holes, starting with the first movie. They all need to be addressed.

Oh, true that is quite possible, the acid burn being from when they tried removing the Facehugger off the captain. That makes sense.The tick aliens though – they do pose a serious risk, if they get to a body of water, no telling how aggressive they could multiply and spread.

They were in the water bottle and didn't grow.

My take on the crews indifference to the facehuggers is that i think they're pretty used to death. 65 years. I'm certain there's been casualties. I'm guessing at intervals there have been crew replacements

There were casualties. The old man who got eyed in the last episode said a lot of good men died trying to imprison those creepy space things.

I really enjoyed the episode. When the T. Ocellus got a hold of one of the crewmembers, I was just thinking "Oh please don't speak", and thankfully it didn't; instead, it made a demonic guttural sound. The fight with the Xenomorph was also pretty nice. But the part where Xenomorph runs away after Ocellus jumps at him killed me.

The way Xeno stands up and runs away.

^ that's hilarious 😆 

Just finished Ep.5. Wow what a ride and nostalgia overflow. I especially love the full Nostromo replica and throwback. This is 1979 ALIEN on steroids + Alien Isolation vibe, especially the captain running and hiding scene. Just wtf how could the captain outrun the alien lol.

The bug and eye ball escaping scene is pretty intense. Very creepy to see them finding ways to escape.

Not sure if it is my most favorite so far (I really like Ep3), but definitely in my Top 2. 

^ that's hilarious 😆

Agree that the captain should not have been able to outrun the xenomorph. The xenomorph doesn't have eyes so the T. Ocellus couldn't get into his head.

Oh, true that is quite possible, the acid burn being from when they tried removing the Facehugger off the captain. That makes sense.The tick aliens though – they do pose a serious risk, if they get to a body of water, no telling how aggressive they could multiply and spread.They were in the water bottle and didn't grow.

The baby ticks were put in the water bottle to infect a host rather than to grow.   The real danger is in enough of these babies get into a water supply source on earth (New Siam or Neverland most likely) to infect other species.   The ticks feed on blood but it doesn't have to be human and maybe doesn't have to be from a living organism.  Then those babies grow and probably make more babies and infect more hosts and so on and so on.  That's when you get a disaster level event. 

The xenomorph patiently stood right in front of the captain yet does not kill her (!) trips her with its tail (?) allows her to get back up on her feet (!!) and she successfully runs away in the worst Disney chase scene since Leia and the bandits in the terrible Obi-Wan series.  The xenomorph charges after her way faster than any human could possibly run yet she outruns it. I get that some characters have plot armor but this is ridiculous. First Hermit and now this captain avoid getting killed in encounters with the xeno despite being served on a silver plate. Who writes this?? Yes she does get killed at the end so I guess the xenomorph realized it's a killing machine after all. Also in the beginning of the episode no one seems to react a lot to the fact that two of their crew members were facehugged and one of them (previous captain) having his whole throat melted by acid. That young kid even made jokes in this inappropriate situation. It's so off-putting and unrealistic despite that I really try my best to suspend my disbelief at all times but this is Idiocracy-level idiotic.Morrow singlehandedly carried this episode and just barely saved it from being almost unwatchable. Nitpicks (and there are many) include the "perfect organism" xenomorph (well not anymore thanks to Disney) struggling in a fight against a possessed human, the editing with occasional scene fade outs killing any ounce of suspense, Ikea-quality glass cylinders that are supposed to contain highly dangerous organisms, hentai tentacle monster tapping the glass to warn the scientist (lol), a junior/trainee engineer so shockingly stupid I'm surprised he even manages basic daily routines, and so many throwbacks to Alien that even Fede Alvarez' love letter Romulus fade in comparison. The good parts were the scenes with Morrow, some impressive CGI (especially the facehuggers and the xenomorph) the shootout scene against the traitor and the appearance of the infected senior engineer, looking like he came straight from The Thing. This series is like a high-budget YouTube fan film. Severely flawed yet occasionally entertaining.

Nothing will ever be worse than the Leia / bandits chase scene 🤣 

But yeahhhhh I'm still confused why the Xenomorph was so selective with who it killed and who it toyed with. Is there a reason? The Xenomorph has often been an inquisitive organism as much as it is aggressive. My speculation is that it's simply playing with its food, so to speak.

The Ticks don't need a living victim, that was shown twice in this episode, first with the dead rat and second with the freshly-dead crew member Clem (AKA Chlamydia!).

Found this, from the creator himself, re: T.Ocellus being 'good':"I think it was creating a distraction to allow the creature to do its thing,” Hawley says. “As you keep watching in the season, one might begin to suspect that this one [species] is smarter than the other ones, and that it thinks in a longer-term way."

"Lots of plot holes, starting with the first movie. They all need to be addressed." You sure you don't want to start a topic on this? You're saying this everywhere. Lay out all your questions and we'll discuss. 

The Ticks don't need a living victim, that was shown twice in this episode, first with the dead rat and second with the freshly-dead crew member Clem (AKA Chlamydia!).

First time I heard their name I was like - wait what? 💀😂 But yeah, very true. These ticks will feast on anything, making them a major hazard to any ecosystem.

Found this, from the creator himself, re: T.Ocellus being 'good':"I think it was creating a distraction to allow the creature to do its thing,” Hawley says. “As you keep watching in the season, one might begin to suspect that this one [species] is smarter than the other ones, and that it thinks in a longer-term way."

By the sounds of it, the Ocellus has no alignment or allies with any other organism but is able to calculate and anticipate events to preserve its own self interests. Not good, not evil, just a survivor in any environment. Of course us as Humans will try to find reason to adapt Human traits to it, but ultimately it’s just another sentient being trying to avoid death. I’m liking the Ocellus more and more as the series goes on, however I would have liked the Xenomorph to have been given a little more respect for it’s intelligence but Hawley wanted it to be more like a “bug” again. 🙄

I had to quit half way through this episode. I agree it was the most "alien" this series felt so far but the writing is just unbearably bad. too many dumb characters doing dumb things. im done with this show. 

I don't think that's the intended goal, but more so a potential consequence for their inability to handle containment of these organisms. No one would knowingly or intentionally poison their own home unless its thoroughly infested.

I had to quit half way through this episode. I agree it was the most "alien" this series felt so far but the writing is just unbearably bad. too many dumb characters doing dumb things. im done with this show.

The writing definitely leaves much to be desired, but we've got 3 more episodes to go! Aren't you curious how it ends? 

wow , what a blast from the past , really enjoyed it and is the best one so far 

just wished they went further back in the ships travels on rounding up the Aliens 

I had to quit half way through this episode. I agree it was the most "alien" this series felt so far but the writing is just unbearably bad. too many dumb characters doing dumb things. im done with this show.

I feel ya, I was this close 🤏 to quit but I'm merely watching to see cool separate scenes at this point as a huge Alien fan. It's a big production after all. 

The xenomorph patiently stood right in front of the captain yet does not kill her (!) trips her with its tail (?) allows her to get back up on her feet (!!) and she successfully runs away in the worst Disney chase scene since Leia and the bandits in the terrible Obi-Wan series.  The xenomorph charges after her way faster than any human could possibly run yet she outruns it. I get that some characters have plot armor but this is ridiculous. First Hermit and now this captain avoid getting killed in encounters with the xeno despite being served on a silver plate. Who writes this?? Yes she does get killed at the end so I guess the xenomorph realized it's a killing machine after all. Also in the beginning of the episode no one seems to react a lot to the fact that two of their crew members were facehugged and one of them (previous captain) having his whole throat melted by acid. That young kid even made jokes in this inappropriate situation. It's so off-putting and unrealistic despite that I really try my best to suspend my disbelief at all times but this is Idiocracy-level idiotic.Morrow singlehandedly carried this episode and just barely saved it from being almost unwatchable. Nitpicks (and there are many) include the "perfect organism" xenomorph (well not anymore thanks to Disney) struggling in a fight against a possessed human, the editing with occasional scene fade outs killing any ounce of suspense, Ikea-quality glass cylinders that are supposed to contain highly dangerous organisms, hentai tentacle monster tapping the glass to warn the scientist (lol), a junior/trainee engineer so shockingly stupid I'm surprised he even manages basic daily routines, and so many throwbacks to Alien that even Fede Alvarez' love letter Romulus fade in comparison. The good parts were the scenes with Morrow, some impressive CGI (especially the facehuggers and the xenomorph) the shootout scene against the traitor and the appearance of the infected senior engineer, looking like he came straight from The Thing. This series is like a high-budget YouTube fan film. Severely flawed yet occasionally entertaining.Nothing will ever be worse than the Leia / bandits chase scene 🤣 But yeahhhhh I'm still confused why the Xenomorph was so selective with who it killed and who it toyed with. Is there a reason? The Xenomorph has often been an inquisitive organism as much as it is aggressive. My speculation is that it's simply playing with its food, so to speak.

Plot armor 😉 in all fairness Ripley and Newt had it as well but it was concealed behind a good script (i.e A1-3AC) and phenomenal acting (Sigourney Weaver)  whereas it's painstakingly obvious in Alien Earth. 

I had to quit half way through this episode. I agree it was the most "alien" this series felt so far but the writing is just unbearably bad. too many dumb characters doing dumb things. im done with this show.The writing definitely leaves much to be desired, but we've got 3 more episodes to go! Aren't you curious how it ends?

I'm not sure, I was mostly curious about this episode. I might wait until the last 3 come out and just sprint through them.

Now this is an awesome shot