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Biblical correlations to the Alien universe

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Tenoracity

MemberOvomorphSep-01-2013 1:32 PM
Prometheus 2: plot points using the ideas behind the Leviticus verses. Firstly, Leviticus 4:26 has better correlations as will be explained later, but Leviticus 22:3 has a very interesting message regarding the fate of those who meddle in the affairs of the Gods. I'll quote the verses and hope that many of you will be open to discuss the ideas that might or might not have influenced plot points in the movies of the Alien universe (Predator universe not-withstanding). Leviticus 4 verse 26 reads: "And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him." (KJ) I could get into a lot of separate discussions on a great deal of subtopics here but lets just highlight a few to get the ball rolling: The "priests" could be the Engineers, the "sin" could be the visitation of the planet of origin, and the "fat of the sacrifice", well, that is the big question! Could the atonement of the visitation be the creation of human/alien hybrids by their very presence there? Will Shaw have to "be the sacrifice" that saves Earth? Does the physical planet LV 426 serve as the place of sacrifice by the Engineers due to its human terraforming presence being discovered somehow? Did Shaw make the decision to put the ship on that planet instead of Earth to "save Earth" from the Engineers or was it the Engineers or even the newly created alien/human hybrid race? To be honest, though.....you have to think about the fact that Cameron and the writers, in "Aliens", had a different take on the "Sacrifice" that the bible verse depicts. Did Cameron keep the meaning of the verse alive in the plot of Aliens in '86? To me, there is absolutely no change in plot point if Prometheus 2 takes us back there and makes the colony on LV 426 the "sacrifice". The only revelation will be who made the choice for it to be that way: the Engineers, the Aliens, or Shaw herself! This starts some of the discussion......begin! Secondly, and lesser into the implications of the sequel, I'm sure, is how the origin of the use of the black goo, is considered on the planet that it was founded on, LV 223. Or could it have been set there on purpose? Here is Leviticus 22 verse 3 (there is no Leviticus 2:23, btw): "Say unto them, Whosoever he be of all your seed among your generations, that goeth unto the holy things, which the children of Israel hallow unto the LORD, having his uncleanness upon him, that soul shall be cut off from my presence: I am the LORD." So many correlations and so little time! First, in looking at the whole verse without taking it apart, one could conclude that a punitive curse could evolve involving the cutting off of your soul (belief system) for tampering in the affairs of the Gods. I.E. understanding your origin could ruin your faith. Very incredible correlation to Prometheus 1, for sure, and the answers that Shaw is looking for, the "why," could be (hopefully) concluded in the sequel. What do you think? Further scrutiny can be developed from taking apart the verse. Such as: What are the "seeds"? What are the "generations"? Can "Goeth unto the holy things" be taken literally or figuratively? What is the "uncleanliness" referring to? Whose soul is being "cut off" Please discuss!!!!!
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The First Child

MemberOvomorphSep-03-2013 9:17 PM
I do believe that there could be some ideas from the Bible that have been presented in this franchise.

The First Child

MemberOvomorphSep-03-2013 9:17 PM
I do believe that there could be some ideas from the Bible that have been presented in this franchise.

brego

MemberOvomorphSep-03-2013 10:53 PM
I think that the only connection with the Bible is the carbon dating of 'around 2000years', the date of 24th December and the supposed Virgin Birth theory which some fans carry on about. I think these are simply coincidental, and in fact there is no actual Virgin birth ass Shaw is not a Virgin at all. I think these tantalising themes were woven into the story to cause conjecture and that is exactly what it has done. Some of us have written that The Engineers were angry with us because we killed Jesus, or angered God. These theories are simply absurd. The Engineers history goes back millennia, and I imagine is far more complicated than to test us in such an obvious way. Wouldn’t they be more concerned that we were killing each other over religion, treating women like shit and subjected other people to slavery. I’m sure that Ridley has a much bigger idea in mind than a simple connection to a modern religion. Perhaps the Bible was written by scholars who wrote stories handed down by generations which came from actual contact with The Engineers. Obviously Human kind had met them as they were depicted on ancient tablet, cave paintings and drawings, as we saw in Prometheus. These ancient drawing far out date The Bible and therefore I believe dispel any speculation about Biblical connections.

Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerSep-04-2013 11:32 AM
@Tenoracity - TY for your post & welcome! I am also of the opinion that there are going to be biblical overtones found all over Prometheus. I thought Ripley had said the Derelict had been on LV-426 for longer than 2000 years, though? Also, in regard to our understanding of why the Engineers were angered, it has been said here before that we could never understand an Alien course of reasoning.

Trevorl314

MemberOvomorphMar-04-2017 4:08 PM

I think the story in Prometheus correlates directly to the biblical story of fallen angels. Milton's Paradise Lost plays on this idea with much vivid detail. The angels rebelled and were cast out of heaven after fighting with god's angels. 

I think the Engineers on LV-223 represent the fallen angels. They rebelled against their creator and were cast out of Paradise (perhaps literally). To retaliate they created the bioweapon and planned to wipe out humans, another one of their god's creations. 

It's interesting how mythology plays such a significant role in human life. It's also interesting how myth distorts or skews a story to make it something completely new. For example, there is no rebellious Satan in the Old Testament. That idea was concocted by Christians much later on. People believe Lucifer equates to Satan, but it doesn't. Lucifer, in the OT, refers to an earthly king, not some fallen angel. Yet, Lucifer is popularly known as the devil by most people. Most all the Christians I know think Lucifer is the devil. Then you have stories like Prometheus which parallel the popular idea of Lucifer, thus linking the two together. Then you have the story of the Annunaki, which I've seen tied into the story of Prometheus and Lucifer. 

What we're seeing with Prometheus, and probably with Alien: Covenant, is the evolution of a mythos, but in a much more powerful form. I find that aspect of the movies just as interesting as the movies themselves.

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