Giger's Necronom IV appears on Alien: Covenant Clapperboard! (UPDATED)
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-16-2016 6:01 PMCINEMA Magazine Reporter Scott Orlin recently tweeted a photo from the set of ALIEN: Covenant.
It shows him holding a clapperboard from the film, which depicts Giger's Necronom IV. Could this prove significant to the reworked design of the Alien?
As we know, Sir Ridley Scott stated that the original Alien would make an appearance in the movie along with a new creature. Does the image prove what many fans are hoping for, a return to the look of the unique and mysterious work of H.R Giger, or as we refer to it The Giger-verse?
I have always loved the pale coloured, almost translucent quality of the Necronom series of paintings. That was the design originally intended for the Alien, but the Translucent Suit never worked out. Modern prosthetics merged with CGI could properly re-imagine Giger's work!
UPDATE: 2 more photos of the clapperboard have been shared!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Aorta
MemberFacehuggerJun-16-2016 7:35 PMNice find Lone!
I read here somewhere that there would possibly be a translucent creature, Ridley has to be thrilled to finally be able to realize that vision, so much more like something you'd find under a rock, yes?
I just hope the life forms will remain eyeless, it's key to their dark, damp dreadfulness. Like those blind spiders that live in caves. Something meant to dwell the basement of the universe.
No doubt all this will happen, this is an amazing time to be an enthusiast of things otherworldly and awful. MORB Magnificence!
Centauri
MemberPraetorianJun-16-2016 9:04 PM@The Lone Gunwoman yyess!
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brego
MemberOvomorphJun-16-2016 9:49 PMI think originally Ridley liked the eyeless look as it was more alien and creepy. Note this design has only 5 fingers.
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-16-2016 11:19 PMAgreed Noob....exciting times ahead!
You guys will not believe this.....twice in the last week I have had the same dream, where I meet Ridley Scott [in the small seaside home town where I was born, of all places!]
He was extremely polite, and very enthusiastic when I proposed the idea of being allowed to ask him some questions about Covenant...remember, it's a dream people....
So my first question related to the Giger aesthetic, I asked if he would be returning to H.R's original design, more particularly the pale, decayed, translucent quality of the MORB 'skin.'
He leans in and whispers, "I will tell you, but you have to promise me you will keep it a *uckin* secret!"
"Absolutely Sir Ridley....I promise....I swear..."
Right at that moment his phone rings and I wake up!
Then I spot that image on the clapperboard! Hahaha I am going crazy for all things MORB, all over again.
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Mizikame
MemberFacehuggerJun-17-2016 12:07 AMI absolutely love the Dream LoneGunwoman & that's way awesome to be overslept with the MORB becoming more fully realized ^_^
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MemberNeomorphJun-17-2016 3:23 AMWell spotted Lone! You must have amazing eye sight to spot that!
Maybe it's just a nod to Giger. But then again, if that were the case, surely they would have a picture of him on the clapperboard?
Having an image of Necronom 4 may have some significance in that it was what they based the original alien on and it's a clue that they are going to show us the origin of the alien?
The poster was good though!
Centauri
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2016 4:12 AMgreat discovery! @ Lone .... has the eye of a xenomorph tiger ;) Also that sounds like a wonderful dream! maybe ridley is looking in your head like david did to shaw in cryo sleep lol ..... gosh those giger designs are so friggin amazing...now that giger has past, I'm sure Ridley will definetly honor his work fully and properly...probly even dedicating the film to him... I can't wait to be freaked out
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Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2016 4:31 AM@Mizikzme Welcome to Scified! :D
NECRO and BRG That image has to be a clue! I am so hoping that Covenant will be a Ridley-verse tribute to Giger-verse!
Years ago, whilst doing a college course, I came top out of everyone in the country for photography. It came as a huge surprise to me, and I was told that I had a rare eye for bringing out unique detail in subject matter!
Nowadays, the right side of my brain is little used, but some of the old magic might still be there! XD
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
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MemberNeomorphJun-17-2016 5:57 AMThat explains it then Lone. I had to increase the size of the image massively to see it and even then I could only just make out that it was Necronom 4.
BTW; coming top out of everyone in the country is an amazing accomplishment! Well done my friend!
The poster was good though!
Membrane
MemberFacehuggerJun-17-2016 7:10 AMAs much as I enjoyed 'Prometheus', the lack of Giger type designs made it feel like it was not quite a part of the Alien franchise. However, maybe that was always the plan. Things in the beginning were less Giger-y and as things get interfered with (humans getting infected, giving birth to new creatures, etc), the Giger-verse starts to emerge.
Haujobb - Membrane / Acretongue Remix
BigDave
MemberDeaconJun-17-2016 7:27 AMYes well done Lone ;)
As for this new Photo its interesting, but maybe it could be a Red Herring?
Who knows, the Source did say that one of the Monsters is based off Necromon 4 and looks different to the Classic Xenomorph but we can make a connection, they also said that Prometheus as far as Alien Engineers where going for the same concept but abandoned it after Lindeloffs re-write to tone down the Xeno DNA
Ridley did say they wanted a fresher form or Xenomorph and the Neconom 4/Ultramorph certainly would fit the bill.... especially the one with those Eyes.
If they are showing us a Xenomorph Origins, then lets look at it as in context of designing Alien.
We had Dan O'Bannons Star Beast start it all off, but by the time it was evolved into Alien, Ridley had seen HR Gigers Necronom 4 and felt that was it, thats what we want and so Giger did some concept work which is shown in the main post.... then he also did another that was related also to HR Gigers Necronom 5
And so while what inspired Ridley to take HR Giger on board to design the Alien, was Necronom 4, Giger also did a design that also incorporated Necronom 5
When they finally got HR Giger to do the final Alien designs it was very much Necronom 5 as far as Head Design but also elements of Necronom 2
In effect the Alien Big Chap was based off mainly Necronom 4's Body, with 5's head and the face of Necronom 2 and maybe the Penis Tongue inspired the Pharyngeal Jaw
So if we look in the context of the design, then yes the Origin of our Alien as far as Concept, was Necronom 4 and i think introducing something like this would be fantastic.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2016 8:17 AMThe image has been overlaid by the scene details sheet, so it is not that easy to spot!
I just have a feeling that at least one of the alien designs may incorporate more of the original Necronom organic look and possibly the translucent appearance.
I mean it can't be beaten for Alien-ness!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Chris
AdminEngineerJun-17-2016 8:22 AMThis needs to be a clue. The last image of an Alien: Covenant clapperboard we saw simply had the standard wallpaper, no Giger designs or anything. So, the fact that this one was purposefully equipped with this clapperboard and was shared to social media, leads me to believe this was in fact a clue. I think this is directly correlated to what one of the new Aliens will look like in Covenant, as Big Dave suggested.
Michelle Johnston
MemberChestbursterJun-17-2016 9:56 AMSo how do we see this chap or chapette coming about. The emphasise on the pale, translucent,bio-mechanoid suggests this is the guy who results from events inside the movie. The second monster as I recall from last autumn and the brief Paradise Lost period is not new so that may well be the Deacon.
So the Lone discovery possibly has Shaw and big idea David in the food chain and Mr T and or even possibly David C who plays the same role as the Engineer does for the Deacon.
So the Deacon is the result of the "evolving creature" and the Paradise Lost phase of the Engineers history.
One of these charming characters generates Eggs so that would mean either the Deacon is a Deaconess or as we discussed elsewhere they use the Egg Morphing technique.
Possibly the Lone discovery in an act of symbolic retribution and punishment sets up the egg morphing which leads down to what we know and love.
In the latter scenario the Deacon being the general bad ass of LV223 that we hear scream in the holographic play back spreading Black Goo terror may almost in dramatic terms be a decoy.
Chris
AdminEngineerJun-17-2016 11:20 AMTwo more photos of the Necronom clapperboard have been shared to our friends at The Perfect Organism Podcast!
How exciting. I also love how we're the only ones really paying attention to this. lol
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2016 11:31 AMCool. The MORB is not as obvious on those images because of the numbers.
I've been searching all day Chris, so far no other sites appear very excited by this! I almost couldn't believe what I was seeing! XD
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Chris
AdminEngineerJun-17-2016 12:27 PMTo be fair though, not may sites are as nuts about this stuff as we are haha. Maybe we'll get that translucent Alien after all in Alien: Covenant!
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-17-2016 2:01 PMOh yeah, translucent MORB here we come!
“One should be able to see the skeleton, the blood circulatory system, the organs etc,” Giger wrote in his diary.
and of course I had to purchase NECAs Translucent Prototype Figure...it is AWESOME!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
BigDave
MemberDeaconJun-17-2016 4:14 PMI think they could pull it off, but it would require someone really Thin, like super skinny i guess, but that is why i guess they casting requested such.
You see if think they would need to wear a under suit that would maybe have details like veins and what not, so that under a See Through Alien Suits you kind of done get the impression of a Man in the Suit, and then CGI can take care of the rest.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Lone
MemberPraetorianJun-18-2016 3:13 AMWith the technology and modern prosthetics available now, I'm sure it could be done very well indeed Dave!
They found Bolaji, so there's a good chance of finding someone of similar stature.
The guys fom ODD STUDIO, who won an oscar for their work on Mad Max, will be involved with the creature prosthetics for Covenant, so I am very confident that we will see something truly outstanding!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Lone
MemberPraetorianJul-13-2016 12:52 AMYet another clapperboard showing H.R Giger's Necronom IV!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Lone
MemberPraetorianJan-28-2017 2:09 AMThere's a link to this post at giger.com :)
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
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MemberFacehuggerJan-28-2017 9:18 AMSo we are getting the White design Prometheus concepts in the Neomorphs, the classic Xeno, and now maybe even the original Morb??? This is gonna get crazy
Lone
MemberPraetorianJan-28-2017 2:35 PMIt would appear that so much has been given away re the creature concepts. However I feel that there are going to be a few unexpected surprises which I am so looking forward to.
I mean everything has been kept totally under wraps until very recently, that's why I cannot believe that there won't be at least one MORB design which we were not really expecting, plus some other cool and shocking surprises.
I really think that Sir Ridley is aiming to blow every other ALIEN movie out of the water!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Tiago_miami_la
MemberFacehuggerJan-28-2017 2:49 PMLone thats my expectation. What i really wish for and ill praise him beyond belief.
However if we have seen everything already and not the adult neo only..i will be really disapointed...i also expect the xeno to be different.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-28-2017 3:10 PMIndeed a lot has been given away so far.
1) Ridley Scott said the movie will have every stage of the Alien, from Egg to Big Chap, Logan mentioned you cant try and make a Alien Prequel without having to go show the Xenomorph Life Cycle...... Ridley openly mentioned about the Big Chap, the Production staff all had various items of clothing that depicted the classic Xenomorph..
And then the Poster showed us a very similar looking Alien, and then we had the trailer (never mind leaked shots which Fox never seemed to bothered about the Egg Cave one) and so the Trailer showed us Eggs, Face Hugger and a Alien at the end that is very similar to the Xenomorph.
2) The other element was the Neomorph's that again was mentioned in other posts started on AVPGalaxy and basically never got any take down requests... its only leaked images that Fox seemed to want down at the time prior to Trailers.
since the Trailer, Fox have not been too bothered with people discussing the extra Footage shown to some (15 minutes) which go into detail more about the Neomorph events.. rather than just the one we saw in part in the Trailer.
Those who only see the Trailer, would not see or know what the Neomorph looks like, they would not have paid attention in detail or freeze frame the Neomorph quick glimpse as Farris attempted to shoot it.
But those who had seen leaked props, studied the trailer and read upon the first mention of the New Monster in detail and Spores... would when looking at unused Prometheus concepts.. be able to make a very good guess at what the Adult Neomorph would look like.
So indeed if these are the only Alien's in the movie, then we have been spoilt a bit already, i think Ridley intended to showcase the more Xeno looking Alien to hook in the Alien fans and those disappointed with Prometheus and about the Engineers rather than Alien Xenomorph.. i dont think he intended to give away the other Alien Neomorphs apart from showing there would be TWO Monsters... but to leave the actual look of the Neomorph's under wraps.
I do think that there is more that they are not giving away, i also think the Trailer is set up in a misleading way as well as a lot of comments by Ridley and Cast.... While Fassbender has kind of given it a way a bit.. in seemingly leading us up a Garden Path....
I think they are not going to cover much in depth, this is what the Books would be for... and so it will leave it open to reaction as far as the Alien Xenomorph and Neomorphs and i think depending on reaction to them and what little screen time or longer they get.... Fox can then gauge if the next movie needs more Alien screen time... maybe different Aliens... or just stick to the Xenomorph.
So it would have been nice to had seen eventually something similar to the few Ultramorph concepts or even the Deacon or related Organisms... but who knows if they will feature in future movies...
I do suspect that the leaked Prop images did hold something they wanted to keep covered up.... maybe it was too revealing as far as the Neomorph... maybe Xenomorph too... or maybe something else in those shots could be introduced that we have not seen yet...
Boy with couples in the movie.. i hope for a Baby-head Belly Burster... and hope thats the Ace Card Ridley has planned... who knows..
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Lone
MemberPraetorianJan-28-2017 3:11 PMI really don't think we have seen everything already Tiago.
Just imagine what's left in store! ;)
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Lone
MemberPraetorianJan-28-2017 3:26 PMYes Dave I like the sound of a baby headed bellybuster. Deceptively kinda cute, but ultimately a vicious, hostile wee beastie! ;)
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Lone
MemberPraetorianJan-28-2017 3:28 PM...and leads us right back to unused concepts, being revamped for Alien Covenant!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger