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Well sorry chli as Obi Wan Kenobi said  "Thats not a Moon, its a Space Station"

LOL

But indeed i think thats a good point, but this is not really a CAVE its a kind of Facility thats inside of a Cave, but i get what you mean, i think the notion its a Facility does indicate this is NO Cave System where these Eggs have Naturally just grown...   There is Technology there.

Maybe we could go back to the route that was shown in Dan O'Bannons Star Beast, where the Eggs/Spores were in some kind of Temple/Pyramid and the Derelict is a Ship belonging to another Race who Stumbled upon these Eggs.

But with ALIEN we can see the Egg Silo and Derelict share the same kind of AESTHETIC so they have to be connected, this does not rule out that the Derelict/Space Jockey are some other Race, and the Engineers discovered the Derelict and used LV-223 to Re-Engineer there Technology.

I think that would be one interesting route to explore.

Which could loosely connect to what Star Beast was showing...  I also find HR Gigers Work on Alien very interesting, his Face Hugger Concepts showed Bald Humanoids, getting Face Hugged and their Space Suits did not look like Earth made ones.. certainly not Aesthetically like in ALIEN or even Prometheus.   The suits did look like the Engineers Suits in Prometheus however...

Then we have the Mural which shows Helmeted beings with the same suits, that now look a bit like the Space Jockey, and who are Sacrificing one of their own to the Face Hugger, the Mural seems to show the Egg coming from a Worm, and this is produced by the Derelict which is shown to actually Aesthetically look like a Xenomorph... as if to suggest they share a Genetic Connection.

HR Gigers Mural was supposed to be placed above sections of the Egg Silo, above what he described as Pregnant Bio-Mechanical Bellies that Produce the Eggs.

THIS ^^^ is very interesting and i thought would be something to explore and my work on Prometheus 2/3 was to explore this... well its one of the 2/3 ways i was going to explore the connections.  So the one was to mix Gigers ideas with the Annunaki like Tale, showing the Engineers are created to Host the Xenomorphs, these Engineers Rebelled, and so Mankind was created in their place..   A War between the Engineers and who ever created the Engineers broke out, the Engineers then destroyed their creators, and then decided to interfere with Mankind by not Destroy us.  But to then subjugate us.

But we Rebelled, so these Engineers who Reverse Engineered their Hierarchy/Creators Technology (well a faction of them) decided to use and experiment on the Xenomorph DNA to use on Mankind.

My other idea was similar but a bit different, but these both conflicted some parts of what i thought Prometheus was showing so i had a different theory and i struggled to MERGE both without coming up with a idea i thought was PERFECT and not Contradicting... which i could not so i abandoned the idea.

BigDave I think what most may have had in common was observing the stars, moon, sun, sky, weather patterns, etc... and some differences may have been how they interpreted them. 

I think the main interest for me, is how so many Ancient Cultures and Many who would have had NO contact with each other share so many Creation/Gods kind of Mythos and Legends.  There are so many similarities in a lot of these that it can get us pondering is this purely coincidence?

The Deluge Story is one example.

I am not saying the Biblical account is right, just that so many other cultures and mythos share the same connections,  we could put it down to a DIRECT Origin of a Story thats passed on culture to culture and changes a little.... but a number of Cultures had no such CONTACT

Definitely have to check it out.... i liked Ghost in a Shell, including the Live Action version and Anime, i actually saw the 2017 version again Tonight ;)

To carry on with above... 

The LV-223 Outbreak is still a Topic for Debate, some would say they heard a Deacon Scream when David activated the Hollogram, the Bodies of the Engineers proof of this... i can agree to a point as far as it appears those Bodies are Props worked on maybe as Lindeloff was working on the re-writes, because in Spaights Alien Engineers, we see the Engineer bodies are implied to have suffered from a mixture of Chest Buster Wounds/Holes and then Wounds caused by Xenomorph related Organisms.

Prometheus changed the Plot, we saw no Xenomorphs, we could ponder a Deacon attack, but those Dead Engineer Bodies appeared HOLLOW apart from the Head in the Sterile Ampoule/Big Head Room. Dr Shaw references she has seen this before (Ebola Outbreak) and when looking at the Engineer clues from Sacrificial Scene too, and Exploding Engineers Head, my theory was always that these Engineers got infected with the Goo and it was in the Process of Breaking Down their DNA... They would have just disintegrated to nothing or just liquid etc...

i liken the Effects of the Sacrificial Goo as a Voilent Chemical Reaction, one that if contained within a Pressured Suit would have no place to go and build up pressure and then Explode from which ever part of the Pressured Container it could...  (Space Suits) much like when you put certain Mints into Cola and Shake the Bottle, a Violent Reaction occurs and then the Cola will try and escape from the point of least resistance.   If the Bottles had Holes in them and you patched the Holes up with Sticky/Scotch Tape then poured Cola into the Bottle the Cola would not really escape.. but as soon as a Minto is added the Violent Chemical Reaction would cause it to blow out of the holes that were tapped up.

I think we saw a similar effect to the Planet 4 Engineers, but for some reason there remains just ended up as Burnt/Mummified corpses.

The Environment in the Big Head Room, must have prevented the Spread/Effect of the Black Goo, hence why the Engineers were running to this Room. Hence why the Head was in a Preserved State.

The Prometheus Crew, maybe by removing their Helmets infected this Environment and caused the Urns to leak.

Regarding LV-223 and the Mural....

I had mentioned a lot of times and prior to AC, that the Mural does indicate the Engineers had encountered, experimented on/with or created something RELATED to the Xenomorph.  There was not enough clues to suggest this Organism or Experiments are FROM a Xenomorph but then its so ambiguous that we cant say they are NOT FROM a Xenomorph.

The options were...

1) They Xenomorph was already known to the Engineers (somehow) and LV-223 was a attempt to Re-Engineer the Xenomorph to create various experiments in a attempt to Perfect the Organism or Harness its Genetic Traits.

2) There was another related Ancestor Parasitic Organism encountered by the Engineers, and they began similar Experiments as above to create various Organisms based on the traits of this Parasite and the Deacon and Xenomorph were Results of this.

3) The Black Goo can be manipulated to create various Organic Life, and it was manipulated to become what it was on LV-223 or became Contaminated, this leads to various Experiments and the Deacon and eventually the Xenomorph.

There are a few varieties of above but the Basis for LV-223/Mural has to show us that these Experiments, the Deacon etc are either from a Xenomorph, from some related Parasitic Organism, or from the Black Goo so that the Black Goo is either the Origin of all these, or the Black Goo came from a Xenomorph or other related Parasitic Organism.

With Alien Covenant we are shown the route that maybe the Xenomorph is just a evolutionary experiment that comes from experiments done by David on the Black Goo and Black Goo infected Organisms.

I have my theory for LV-223 that connects to Planet 4 the different Engineers, but my theory would suggest that these are not Created as a Bio-Weapon... well not originally , they are just a accidental contamination/infection or one directed as punishment to the LV-223 Engineers.

"The difference is that David’s monsters have not been born yet so there is only eggs."

There are Eggs on Planet 4 yes, but i would suspect the returning Engineers witness the results of those Eggs, or Eggs that occur on Origae-6,  i think we have to consider that IF without Davids Experiments on Planet 4, if David remained in Two pieces at the end of Prometheus then there are NO Eggs on the Derelict or Derelict on LV-426, then this means the route they are going means we have to see a Engineer Ship come into play.   The way this can happen, and those Eggs come into play could be.

1) David goes to LV-223 in the Covenant, Experiments to create Eggs and they are loaded on a Ship but maybe Engineers arrive to Stop him, and one of them gets infected.... ( I feel this is unlikely as i dont think David would risk taking the Covenant to LV-223 for risk of being intercepted.)

2) Engineers arrive on Planet 4, discover the Eggs and one group of them head to LV-223 with those Eggs, while maybe another heads towards Origae-6   (this kind of Plot if Shown, would allow us to get a idea of what happened on LV-426 without ever having to cover the next two movies being about the Xenomorph.)

3) The Engineers arrive at Origae-6 some serious $"%$^ hits the Fan, as a Result the Engineers take Davids Creations to LV-223.

4) As above but David comes out of this ok, and he Hijacks a Engineer Ship and heads to LV-223

5) Again similar but David and a Engineer come to some kind of Covenant and both head to LV-223

@Thesues

I think above kind of connects to what you put, i feel indeed the Engineer will return many years latter and i can only see them knowing David is off to Origae-6 from Walter...  As far as Worm-Hole goes, i think the Engineers have Great Technology but i think Time-Travel would not be too good as it would open up the Question of why not go back prior to the Outbreak or even back to when Mankind was Created and Undo it?

i do think a Paradox however could be the Answer that allows for Time Travel and its what i would do as far as DESTROY LV-223 but the Result Creates a Rift in Space and Time, sending the Derelict through a Temporary Paradox that sends it Thousands of years ago, but after the Outbreak on LV-223.

I think its just a sign that THOSE working on the Project have no real interest in LORE and whats laid down prior...  why things are such a mess to be honest!

I agree it seems the Neomorphs dont have Acid Blood, or certainly its not as concentrated as the Xenomorphs, the Xenomorph Face Hugger also appeared to have less of a concentrated Acid as the Alien one.

The Hammerpedes had Acid Blood, in the drafts Fifield had Acid Blood, and i think the Trilobite/Engineer scene is not the full one even on the DVD extras and that the Burn on the Engineers Face was originally from Acid Blood.

Its just a bit of a inconsistency really, we also have to ask how David could dissect all those Black Goo related Organisms with no Signs of Damage from the Acid Blood....  so maybe the Acid Blood is something ENGINEERED into the Xenomorph, and the Worms/Hammerpedes once again become another oversight?

I can only assume as Huante mentioned they are from a Canned Project, and we see what appears to be Technology fused with the various Xenomorph-esque Organisms,  that these concepts are from the point of Human/Androids trying to combine more Earth Technology with the Xenomorphs.

Which does not seem to me like any Plot for a Prometheus 2 or indeed a Alien Covenant Sequel... (PERHAPS?)

So maybe it could be something to do with Alien 5? No doubt once RS became Producer he would haev wanted to look at Blomkamps Alien 5 and changed a few things, he did mention before that some stuff in Blomkamps Work conflicted what he was going to be showing as far as how any Sequels/Direction/Explanations after Prometheus would have taken.

So maybe Blomkamps Alien 5 Progressed a bit further than we know, once RS appointed as Producer?  So maybe these Concepts came from this period?

Other than that the only other explanation would have been a Alien Covenant Sequel, and this is what RS means when he says its about AI?  As in  AI attempt to control/program the Xenomorphs? But then i would have considered a AC sequel to be ON HOLD as opposed to Abandoned?

the body of the engineer immersed in the space jockey suite of the derelict is fossilized, not because he is 1000 years old or more, but only because in my opinion his bio-mechanics suit died together with the engineer, fossilizing himself with the body. The Bio-mechanical suits seem to be fused with the body of the engineer, his death provokes this reaction. The greatness of the engineer seems like a mystery, I would like to imagine as discussed, that there is a similar but different race to engineers of an even more impressive stature to reveal the importance of that derelict.

'How was these confirmed as being part of Alien 5?'

That is the question, BigDave. :)

Good question.  I suppose the easy answer is it's make believe, so the writers really aren't bound by logic.  But you could make the case that the goo transformed its victim (worm, Fifield), and also transformed the spores.  Then the infected spore had a tertiary effect on humans.  They could have went any direction here.  Maybe they ran out of acid blood props LOL.

I did enjoy it after a few episode (2-3), but it was nothing spectacular. There were way to many throwbacks to the original Blade Runner (the balcony scenes, the Hello Unicorn backpack, the soundtrack containing a cover of White Zombie's More human than human, the general cityscape...). The fighting was similar to Equilibrium(???) and the VR was Matrix.

Is it just me or does Martha Higareda look like Noomi Rapace from certain angles?

I might have exagerated... everybody can like what he wants and should be free to talk about it.

BigDave

Regarding lovacraftian movies have you seen In the Mouth of Madness by Carpenter? Great stuff .... or the Void (I don't like this as much as because of female reproductive organs type horror)...

Really enjoyed the Prometheus 2 part of the movie. But was pretty meh on the Alien Prequel part of the film. Plus the characters sucked. BestEssayWritingServices. 

Many interesting scenarios, BigDave. Another possibility is that the engineers found the cave with the eggs a long time ago. They didn't create the eggs, they found them? Some of them were probably infected and they learned about the xeno's life cycle. Later on they might have found a way to harvest eggs safely and bring them to LV-223 to have sacrifical engineers or perhaps abducted humans exposed to them? This would explain the mural? After the outbreak one engineer travels to LV-426 to destroy the eggs (since they are dangerous). But he is already infected himself but manages to set the warning beacon?

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It's obvious from the mural that the engineers knew about (perhaps worshipped) some kind of xenomorph-like creature. There are also facehuggers in the mural, attacking either sacrificial engineers or human victims. The decapitated engineer was about 2000 years old so they must have known about this creature for more than 2000 years. My guess is that in the hologram, they were running from facehuggers since some engineers were found with holes in their chests (like they exploded from inside). But, no dead, ancient creatures of any kind were found by the Prometheus crew . . .

@heidij

You can read the book "Chariots of the Gods" if you'd like, or just watch this old movie that was based on the book. It's pretty much the basis for the Ancient Aliens theory. 

I think if you can imagine it, it probably exists, just there's no way to prove it...yet. I think it's plausible to imagine advanced beings come in all shapes and sizes from the great flying mammoth squids from The Arrival, to maybe spheres of light beings who have shed or evolved their physical form to all kinds of animal-like beings including humans and maybe elves. I think we could include every idea from Star Trek, Star Wars and every sci-fi ever made. A xenomorph type species is entirely possible as well although I would classify them more in the category of deadly space insects.

I like the idea of a dragon human. That ideas gets briefly explored in the silly movie The Golden Child starring Eddie Murphy, a Medusa-like character.

All the best with your project, Heidi. I hope this helps.

I suppose there could be a sister Engineer/Juggernaut race from another planet in the region to explain the size difference of the space jockey. Or they're from the same planet. Maybe they don't have hypersleep chambers because their ships don't travel very far. The sj ship could have been a short-distance transport ship.

To tie David's work to Alien might require the space jockey to visit the Engineer's world after David had left with the Covenant, collect the data, maybe re-vive Walter to get info, re-create the eggs, leave the planet for an LV moon, hits a wormhole and travels back in time 1800 years but arrives in the wrong sector of space and headed toward the wrong moon, discovers a facehugger is at large in the ship but it's too late as the facehugger surprises the space jockey, impregnates him and kills him forcing the crash on LV426.

If David's work doesn't get tied to LV426 then the sj would have to be a separate story. Maybe you could tie it to the outbreak on LV223 but there's too much time in-between events according to RS. I think it would make more sense to make the sj a separate race related to the Engineers, a sister race if you will, that developed the xeno bio technology on their own.

@dk

Brainstorm (1983)

Some of the creatures seem to have female aspects? Perhaps Daniels has evolved into a queen?

No one was around at that time, but Science does try and discover the reasons for this and its interesting as they more they discover the more they have to discount what they thought they discovered at earlier points in time.

It would be ironic if one day in the future that science found empirical evidence of an after life thus proving most faiths to be true after all. How strange would that be? The difference would be that we discovered it instead of believing just because we were told to. IDK. Maybe a movie like that exists?

Thank you for your detailed responses. I just have issue with the word "awakening". Why not Alien Evolution? That's really what's going on here, right? We're seeing the xenomorph evolve to its eventual endpoint or it's full potential. What kind of world would David build? We saw what he did on the Engineers home world. He would continue these experiments. I don't think he would allow any of the colonists to come out of cryo sleep without being impregnated or infected. Those are all potential hosts for his new creations.

We'll see what Ridley has in mind and if Disney will want him to make another Alien film.

Maybe at the very least they could do a cute cartoon where an abandoned baby xenomorph befriends a young boy colonist and they adventure together. The issue of racism or speciesism could be explored as the xenomorph would not be welcomed by the human community. :)

"I think that there is always plenty of discussion about humanoid type aliens, but if humans were to visit and then colonise a planet, there surely they would take livestock with them."

Fantastic Reply Batchpool

I like that comment above, as i gets me thinking about Alien Covenant where we are told their are 2000 Colonists and Thousands of Embryos....  If we ever got to the stage of Alien Covenant, where we would indeed be setting off to Colonize a World.

Then it would make sense to have the Technology to Incubate and Latter Grow Embryo of Various Organisms and the Facilities to then Grown them from Embryo to  Adult, and so it would make sense if the Covenant indeed carried Livestock Embryos.

Which in effect turns the Covenant into more of a Noahs Ark,  the Noahs Ark Story sounds unbelievable, it certainly has massive flaws...   But if we was to ever have to BUILD a Real Modern Noahs Ark... be it to Survive some Disastrous Event  or Travel to another world.

Or even build a Underground Shelter..

Then keeping Embryos of Organisms, and even Egg and Sperm Cells would not take up much Space Compared to a Male/Female of every Species ;)

Its interesting for sure,  regardless of if there is any truth in it or not, its a interesting one to ponder and one to ponder.  It kind of fuses Scientific Connections with Religion/Mythos so it kind of provides a Answer to both, but thats not to say this is actually the answer at all.

Until we Die and See GOD, or GOD (Gods) comes back in front of Millions and gives us the Low-Down/Answers, until Aliens Turn up in front of Millions and Declare they are our Creators.

We just will never know for sure... Even if they did, not everyone would believe, and think its a HOAX the work of Satan or a conspiracy by the World Governments to Enslave us etc.

Still a interesting subject to look into, i think nearly everyone is in search of some Purpose and Meaning, some find it thought Religion, other Spiritualism, others just take Science at Face Value to suggest we have no Place in the Universe apart from being a collection of Particles/Atoms Forged from the Death of a Star, that was Forged from the Big Bang.

Then can we 100% Prove that?  No one was around at that time, but Science does try and discover the reasons for this and its interesting as they more they discover the more they have to discount what they thought they discovered at earlier points in time.

I have my own Personnel View on the Purpose of Life, and that is just to Enjoy the Gift, Experience as much as you can, as long as your not hurting anyone and treat others how you would like to be treated and Enjoy all the Wonders of Life and the Beauty of our Galaxy while we are far away from discovering those wonders of the Galaxy up close, in time we may do.  But for those who are around now, we live in a Time where Entertainment, be it Movies or Games or Books give us a step closer to such wonders.

One of the biggest factors imo of what would affect the anatomy and physiology of an alien would be diet. Humans are omnivorous and therefore the jaw has evolved to accommodate anything from vegetation to meat. If ancient aliens did come to earth and settle it would make sense that they would have to be compatible with digestible resources, unless they introduced their own food. Who is to say that some of the bio diversity we see on this planet does not actually originate from this planet. Most animals have blood that is based on iron, whereas a horseshoe crab is based on copper. One of my favourite quotes comes from Cookie Monster, which is “Are lobsters mermaids to scorpions?” I like this idea because it reflects on how two different species can look similar, but adapted to their environment. Another thing about this quote is the perception of mythical creatures. I think that there could be something to be gained at looking at creatures in Greek mythology. Could there have been aliens that were giant Cyclops?

I think that there is always plenty of discussion about humanoid type aliens, but if humans were to visit and then colonise a planet, there surely they would take livestock with them.

As far as Direction goes, they have to be careful really, as we dont want to see basically another Alien Covenant, or Aliens kind of Flick.

Right now we are 17 years prior to ALIEN, it appears the set up is David will be off to Origae-6 which means he will arrive there in the Year 2112 so 10 years prior to ALIEN.   David has but just TWO Face Huggers and if his Creations end up on the Derelict, then in the space of 10 years the following must happen.

*Davids Creations at some point and in some way will become in their THOUSANDS

*A Engineer Ship has to come into play, and have somehow at sometime those Eggs Transported aboard it.

*This Ship has to be heading towards the Zeta 2 Reticuli System, which we can assume is NO-WHERE near Origae-6

Ridley Scott has informed us the Next movie will have been less focus on the Xenomorph and more so on AI, it also would have pondered what kind of World would David Create?

There will be 3-4 incoming Parties, one if which will be the ENGINEERS after they arrive at Planet 4 and Discover what has happened to that place and wish to find who was responsible.

The other Parties is unknown but ONE has to at least be connected to the Weyland-Yutani Company which David has informed them of his Experiments and Creation.

The movie would require at LEAST one more Sequel before it could drive us into ALIEN

So this does set us up a certain direction, i cant see the Movie being set a lot on the Journey to Origae-6 and so cover 7 years of David on the Covenant, David interacting with Daniels, or David simply Churning Out Egg after Egg on the Covenant.

I think Daniels Role would be Doomed, but she would likely be used for Davids Creative Agenda just as Dr Shaw was, i also CANT see David playing a ONE Handed Android and then putting on a Show to the other Colonists, Charade as Walter and covering up what happened in Alien Covenant..  not without Suspicion unless David Repairs himself with Walter Parts or Builds a Walter and Uploads his Soul into it.

Behold the Space Jockey ;)

Indeed AWAKENING does sound a odd Title, but its not so bad if it fits in context with what the Plot would revolve around.   The only way Awakening would fit within context to a Alien movie, would be some kind of Awakening and if we think of this regarding the Xenomorph, then really should Covenant had not been called Awakening?

Would a movie set prior to  Alien Covenant that covers what David did when/after he arrived on Planet 4 until the point of his First Xenomorph Egg not have been a AWAKENING?

So its a odd choice for a Movie that follows Covenant, but requires another movie before we get to the events of ALIEN, so the only Awakening is maybe the movie will at the end either Bring us to the Bio-Mechanical Version of the Xenomorph that ends up in Alien, and show us how the Eggs on the Derelict came to be...   for example are a Evolved Version of those on Planet 4

Or Awakening refers not to the Xenomorph but other elements within the Franchise, such as a Awakening of the Agenda/Plot behind the Companies interest in the Xenomorph, perhaps revealing AI as playing a massive Role in the Company unbeknown to Mankind.

I feel the Title more suits a movie set prior to Alien Covenant.. or one after the Sequel.. so

Prometheus

Awakening....*1

Alien Covenant

Alien Covenant Sequel

Awakening....*2

Alien

So i feel Awakening as far as a Title in Relation to Progression of the Plot (Xenomorph Origins, leading to LV-426) is more fitting to either prior to Alien Covenant or the movie set prior to Alien.

After watching the History channel show 'Ancient Aliens', it really got me thinkingand goes to show how much evidence is actually out there. Some of this evidence can be dipicted in many ways but some of it is just outright weird, such as ancient paintings of flying saucers in the background sky, even some with beings sitting in them. ancient cave carvings of flying saucers. Why do people worship beings from the sky? look up the Book of Ezekiel- in  his own written words about a 'chariot' which visited him and gave him instruction. Theres are just a few of the many examples. I have a feeling Ridley Scott may be a believer in this theory.. or definitely find it interesting.

Daniels as a QUEEN is a interesting thing, i have explored this a view times on here, where there really is 3 routes.

1) Face Hugger + Daniels = Xenomorph Queen or Egg Layer..  This would be too close to Camerons idea and i think RS would not go this route.

2) Infect Daniels with Face Hugger DNA to change her into a Hybrid, that then Lays/Produces Eggs that can be harvested and grown into Xenomorph Eggs.

3) Use Daniels Reproductive Organs as far as Harvesting her Egg Cells, to Experiment/Evolve into Xenomorph Eggs.

OPTIONS 2/3 i think David would have to find some way to extract Face Hugger DNA and infuse it with Human DNA/Genetics, how would David do this?   The Black Goo is the most obvious Plot Device for this.

Looking at how the Black Goo worked in Prometheus, If its ONE Substance or David can obtain the Sacrificial Variant, or even Mixing the Black Goo with a Face Hugger as it is...  the purpose being to expose the Face Hugger DNA so that it is broken down to form a Hybrid Substance that now Carries the DNA of Davids Face Huggers.  This then applied to Daniels, or to her Harvested Egg Cells would indeed maybe lead us to David being able to Create Multiple Eggs.

If David had the Sacrificial Goo or could allow the Black Goo to perform in a similar Fashion, then exposing it to a Face Hugger Embryo, that then breaks down the Face Hugger DNA and then this is stored in some container, to then be used to infect Daniels or her Egg Cells would surely lead to Xenomorph Eggs...

THESE ^^^ have to be the Logical Way to go, if Daniels is implied as some Queen, the other route is a Queen Chest Buster which is very James Cameron, or have the Xenomorphs Egg Morph its Hosts. Which means Daniels is not a QUEEN, unless a Female Born Chest Buster is able to Egg Morph... or revealed to, because if they can all do it, then the Egg Morph route would mean that Daniels does not have to be a Queen but in effect Tennessee or anyone else could be.

I will add that going the route that the Egg Chamber is part of the ship makes things much easier as far as LV-426, regardless if they STICK with David being the Creator or Change it back again, even if they reveal that INDEED its a ANCIENT EVENT!

The Separate Egg Silo idea, would be more suited to a Ancient Event because then it would fit more if the LV-426 Silo was where the Engineers Stored their Experiments, then it could have it that a Engineer Ship sets down to the Cargo Hold to Stock up on some Urns, or what ever and discover something has Evolved in the Egg Chamber,  the Space Jockey could Curiously take a closer look and then get infected, and then wake up, rush to his Pilot Chair, attempt to take off but then realize something is not right and then HALT his attempted Escape and Set of a Warning Beacon.

This could also be explored as far as a more recent event, but then we have to ask HOW does the Eggs get to that Egg Silo if they was not there prior to Alien Covenant, why would a Engineer take Davids Eggs to a Separate Egg Silo on LV-426, rather than LV-223?

It does not mean this could not be the case, they could simply have discovered Davids Creations and Shipped them on the Derelict to take to LV-426 and then they would have had to SAFELY ship them to the Egg Silo in Thousands before just by CHANCE one of the Eggs infects the Space Jockey, so for this Scenario to work it would likely FIT some kind of Sabotage by another Engineer or David, especially if David and the Engineers work together and then David double crosses the Space Jockey.

I think the Big Question if we go for LV-426 having a Egg Silo is why hold a Egg Silo on LV-426 and not just some other part of LV-223 unless they knew the risk a outbreak of what ever is on LV-426 (successful experiments) could over-run the World, more than the Black Goo and to keep them both separate as a layer of Quarantine Protocol/Safe Guards.   The other option being this place was for housing Eggs that would be experimented on LV-223 which then would imply maybe the Xenomorph is Ancient...   But this does not have to be the case as the Fresco in Prometheus showed us a Egg, but then if we assume this was held by the Fresco Creature, what ALIEN shows us is the EGG HOLD in ALIEN had XENOMORPHS.

So they could still explore a different route for sure, the only thing for certain is the Egg Silo is at least 4X too Large to fit under the Derelict given the configuration that ALIEN seems to show us. But this could well have to be put down to a OVERSIGHT.

Hopefully not though...

I think maybe it depends what way we look at this, do we look at WHAT logically David would do? Or what RS has hinted at, i think a lot depends on Davids Agenda and Ridley Scott has made some comments to kind of push us in a certain direction.

Why would David need to go to Oriage-6 if his Prime Goal is to create more Eggs?  Would he not just go and take those Eggs from the Cave on Planet 4 and take them to the Ship?  Would he not just take Colonist down few at a time especially Females and Conduct the Same Experiments that obtained him those Eggs?

And why not go back down and take some Black Goo with him?

I think we need to look  beyond what is the most Logical Route for David, and ask WHY go to LV-223, what is there for David?  Black Goo for certain, and if David just wanted to KILL Mankind then surely going to LV-223 and Picking up another Juggernaught would be ideal..

But we have to look at it this way and ask WHY was David marooned on Planet 4? we see no more Engineer Ships (apart from deleted Scene) and so if Davids only TICKET off this place is the Covenant, then surely taking the Covenant to LV-223 so David can get down and pick up a Engineer Ship then head to Earth would be a risk, because of the chances of being intercepted, the Covenant hardly seems like a Stealthy, Maneuverable Ship that can evade capture.

HOWEVER... if David created the Xenomorph then his Creations have to end up on a Engineer Ship that then happens to end up in the LV-223/LV-426 System.... so a Engineer Ship has to come into play, and i feel having Origae-6 be a Engineer World that has a Ship would be a bit too much of a Spoon Fed Coincidence, its why RS comments about the returning Engineers who find what happened to Planet 4 seems the Plot Device to get a Engineer Ship to were David and his Creations are.

Then they have to end up in the Zeta 2 System, which to me can only mean one of these.

*David overcomes the Engineers and takes one of their Ships that arrive at Origae-6 to LV-223 in a attempt to Evolve Davids Creation, or obtain Black Goo to allow David to Spread his creations DNA.

*The Engineers take a interest in Davids Creation and they take it to LV-223 for the same purpose as above.

*David and the  Engineers make a deal to work on the Bio-Weapon together and head off to LV-223 for the reasons above.

I Do-Not think LV-426 will be revealed as Origae-6 i think LV-426 will be revealed to indeed be about 40LY from Earth  (stick with what has already been shown) and i feel Origae-6 will be like 200-300 LY from Earth. Maybe more?

I think the potential is still there for LV-426 to be a place were the Egg Silos are located, but i think a problem with this is why do they have TWO outposts near each other.  The only Logical Explanation would have to be that LV-223 is either.

*Where Experiments to Create Eggs take place and the Results are taken to LV-426 for Storage.

OR

*The Eggs are stored on LV-426 and taken to LV-223 for Experiments on.

There are clues that could support the Cave being Separate, the Size of it, the description by Kane, and how it looks like Limestone Caves as Kanes Enters... but then this could well be Melted Flooring from the Acid Burn Hole (which means a lot of Acid).   A lot of Oversights has lead to such inconsistencies that give us chance to Ponder other Explanations, in the face of the clues not adding up to the Explanation we would assume.

The flip side is i have discovered other clues that contradict a Cave, looking at the Curve to the Egg Cargo Hold i feel it fits Perfectly with the Layout of the Derelict as i posted in a image prior, with ONE exception...  SIZE

To resolve this all they have to do is show the Derelict being slightly different in shape to the Juggernaught and even Derelict in Alien, if they can increase the size of the Derelict by 25%, add a extended portion attached to the bottom of the Derelict thats at least 25% the height of the Derelict and then show the Egg Cargo Hold as being 25% smaller than in ALIEN then these Visual Clues would surely allow us to accept the Cargo Hold is part of the Derelict.

The same as if they introduce another Race or Larger 10ft Engineers, as the Space Jockey, while a 10ft Race wont be the same as the 13-15ft Space Jockey, its much closer to the size so we can accept it.

Totally Agree, this is the kind of point i was making in that Religion alone seems to be something that just wont add up to what Science has shown, there are things in some Religions that mainstream Science just goes against.  Especially with the Biblical Accounts as far as the descriptions of some things are totally bizarre  and would sound more like a Ancient Mankind finding a Time Travelers Pokeman Comic lol

But if we look at these things in context to COULD Ancient Man had interpreted something different, then indeed we can see how some things could make a bit more sense.  A ancient description of  Man Talking to a Stone in his Hand that Shone with the Light of the Lord, and he spoke to the Lord.  Would sound rather bizarre.... but we consider for a Moment what if thats a description for how Ancient Man would describe a Mobile/Cell Phone!

If we took a Stealth Bomber that entered some Paradox and ended up Bombing a Syria/Iraq from 3000 years ago, if these accounts was witnessed and recorded then these Ancient People would not know what a Plan is or Bombs, and so it could be described as a Giant Black Raven who cast down Fire etc.

I AM NOT... trying to say this is how things are... just we have to ask how would Ancient Mankind view such things....   I am one who goes by Evidence, and so indeed Written Accounts are interesting, but Visual Accounts more so...   So i am always Fascinated by Ancient Drawings, and Artifacts, this does not proof however that these are accounts of Aliens, or Time Travelers.... etc.

It also does not mean i disagree with Science, some of Science is FACT some is THEORY i always find it interesting how Science Evolves and what was considered Fact, is changed a little, its just so interesting to see how the more we advance the more the way we can find things changes....  And i mean in all sorts of departments, not only Dinosaurs and how recent Discoveries seem to indicate they maybe are not as Reptile as we thought, but could be more Birdlike that first thought.. i find these new discoveries interesting.

I have had many a Dinosaur Conversation with some Hard-Line Religious Folk... they are not in Religious TXT so they dont exist... i guess the same as Otters, Sloths and Flamingos dont exist then LOL

That would have been a ideal Scenario...

RS would not have wanted Blomkamps Alien 5 to outshine his Prequels, he would not want to make a Prometheus sequel for say 2016-2017 with a Alien 5 to come out in 2018 because he would be concerned some Fans would rather wait for the Blomkamp Alien 5 movie and this would effect potential BOX Office Returns...  This is one reason why i think Alien Covenant attempted to be a more Alieny movie so that those fans who was waiting for Alien 5 would be interesting in seeing what in effect was a Prometheus 2.

The other Problem was FOX just would not COMMIT the Cash to Run TWO back-back Projects, Disney could do this but looking at the Disappointment with Alien Covenant, i think Disney are in NO rush to jump in any make either another Prequel or another Alien Franchise Sequel.

Indeed i think there is good proof for this...

But the inconsistencies do open up something to expand upon to explore the reasons for differences, we can only hope some get addressed but then  who knows exactly what they will show and we may indeed have to ignore flaws and ACCEPT the Engineers are all ONE and the SAME and one of our 7ft Bald Humanoids is sitting in the Space Jockey Chair despite the Evident Size Difference, the same will likely apply with the Derelict and its CARGO bay... there may be no explanation at all.

I would not be surprised if we was shown a 7ft odd Engineer climbs into his Juggernaught, and we then see the Face Hugger and then the Engineer awaken and head towards LV-426 before we get the Credits on the last in the series.  Where we then just have to accept a 7ft Engineer + Juggernaught and its Cargo Hold is what gives us the Space Jockey and Derelict.

I just hope if we ever get there then they will look at the DIFFERENCES and come up with a Explanation for them.

BigDave I doubt there will be an answer since science relies on facts and religion on faith. Faith does not equal fact. It makes for spirited debate and interesting sci fi though!