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I'm really worried they'll go the AVP route.
Sorry, members. I think Ripley should be left as a regular person- a victim of circumstance. Part of the draw was having a rag tag crew trying to survive and Ripley overcame the situation with smarts, will and some luck while overcoming fear and even looking out for a cat. Making her a replicant would cheapen the story imo and I could never watch Alien or its sequels in the same light again. Anything else would be trying to escape a corner that has been written into.
BigDave Agree. Alien fans are not a huge audience. To make more money, it will have to be made to appeal to the masses. I slagged the Disney deal for some time, but I will see what happens- it's not like we have any say anyway except for our wallets. After all, the SW fans don't seem too disappointed overall what Disney did with that series.
Look the idea that Ripley is a Replicant made by David would solve every timeline issue and being created using Daniels could explain why the latter is such a rip-off. And says that David's queen should be a xeno-type creature, that lays eggs and such?
However this would be highly misogynistic in my opinion, as a male (robot) would create every idiots example of strong woman in an action movie.
And why do we continue with Shaw's obsession with having babies when that part was mostly a regret (of which she must certainly has been cured after the c-sec) and how many intellectual woman have time for such a thing before 30?
Will poke around to see if there are more of the Sideshow xeno.
The Coolprops one seems to be waiting on more detail work according to the video. Maybe it will look as sharp as the Sideshow.
That Sideshow Xenomorph Warrior is very nice though
I think we need to consider RS seems to change his mind and Contradict himself a lot.
This Interview is a CLASSIC as far as his Agenda at the time after Alien Covenant and in regards to the last TWO Interviews he did where he talks about the Xenomorph not being used as MUCH... RS never said the movies will not have Xenomorphs in his latest Interviews but the Interview above made after the release of AC shows that RS felt the Franchise had to be about the XENOMORPH
This shows at that time RS felt the Franchise had to get back to HIM (Xenomorph) and how it has to follow ONE String/Thread which is the Process of how the Xenomorph came to be from Prometheus to Alien, and HOW/WHY which is that the Engineers did not create HIM (Xenomorph) but that David did.
RS seems to suggest the Beast was Cooked in the other movies, in how it handled the Xenomorph, but it appears RS feels he can bring New Life into it.... he claims you can EVOLVE HIM (Xenomorph) and that there could be Many more of HIM (Xenomorph) which is a conflict to his latest comments.
Where he claims its about the Reasons for the Xenomorph rather than the Xenomorph and the movies will step more away from the Xenomorph and explore AI, and what kind of Creations and world would a AI create... this DOES-NOT mean RS will be making a Movie about Mad Robots and No Xenomorphs however.
But we have to remember RS can Contradict himself a lot.. like in THIS INTERVIEW
Where he talks about WHY Jaws worked so well because you DONT see the Shark much and he mentioned about the End Scene of the Shark on the Boat was not needed as it revealed too much and maybe they was forced to Show this Scene. Good Points by RS, but then this is exactly the opposite to what he did with AC where the Xenomorph was shown too much and yet also not enough, it was not handled well enough.
And the more you show it in future movies the More it gets Diluted and so this is why i feel RS is now going to tone down the Xenomorph apart from the stage where its necessary for the Plot to Drive it to ALIEN
I think this means LESS Xenomorph in the Next Movie but does not mean NO Xenomorph
I also agree that Disney will give us the more Pop-Corn Style Franchise and so if they take over it depends what kind of deal is Binding with RS and FOX and how any Future take over of FOX has a effect on what FOX may have agreed with Ridley Scott.
I feel Disney would be more willing to push a Blomkamp Style Alien 5, than Ridley Scotts AI Alien Covenant Sequel, this is not to say Alien 5 will come first or at all, just that some of the things RS may want to follow could be thrown out in favor of the more Pop-Corn Fanboy Elements from Alien 5
Hopefully Alien Covenants Sequel would Evolve into a More Rogue One than a Force Awakens kind of Flick.. by that more Darker Tone than a Family one...
I want to see a Alien Covenant set of Sequels pushed at the Age 15 or higher rather than for 12-13 year olds.
The Bio-Mechanical Design was a Aesthetic of HR Gigers Artistic Design, it was Part Machine Part Organic and the Derelict Ship appeared to Mirror this...
Aliens we got a slightly toned down Bio-Mechanical Xenomorph, but the Queen Actually looked more Organic and Insect like.... in ALIEN only the Adult Xenomorph and Derelict Ship looked Bio-Mechanical, the Face Hugger and Eggs looked Organic and the Chest Buster also looked more Organic than Mechanical
As movies Progressed the HR Giger Aesthetic of Machine meets Biology was toned down more and more with each movie. It could be we will NEVER return to the True Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic of HR Gigers Surreal Neconomicon Design.
There are rumors that during production of some of the movies, there was some differences and disagreements between HR Giger and the Producers and then the HR Giger Estate (after his death) as far as using HR Gigers Aesthetic and so the Production was told to Tone Down the HR Giger Bio-Mechanics.
Ridley Scott however has said their is a Reason the Xenomorph was Bio-Mechanical and we have NOT-YET Reached this Stage yet, and so Davids Creation will have to Evolve to take on these Traits at some point between the end of Alien Covenant (late 2104) and ALIEN (2122) with David likely going to Origae-6 which will take nearly 7.5 years (well 7.3 years) this will leave us with a NO MORE than 10 year Gap to Evolve Davids Xenomorph in Alien Covenant to that of which we see in ALIEN
The First Question is always a interesting one...
One that makes little sense, especially since Prometheus as we have the Black Goo, and Engineer Technology and why pursue the Xenomorph and not those other things? We could only ponder that prior to ALIEN we have it where NOTHING remains of the Engineer Technology and Black Goo and so the XENOMORPH is the only remnants of this Technology/Bio Weapon left to obtain.
Now Alien Covenant revealed that David is the Creator of the Xenomorph and he actually passes on what he had done to the Company, it makes it a bit more Strange for the Companies Pursuit of the Xenomorph...
UNLESS.... its revealed that the Company is Ran and maybe behind the Scenes Ran, by AI then the Pursuit of the Xenomorph would make much more Sense.
As for the 2nd Question we dont have any answers... LV-426 is about 39.7 Light Years from Earth the same distance as LV-223, which takes the Prometheus 2 years approx to reach but the Nostromo 10 Months and we simply dont know how fast the Covenant Ship can Travel... for this we need to know the Distance in Light Years of Origae-6 and all we know for sure is Origae-6 is 8-9 years Travel from Earth.
How far is this depends on the Speed of the Covenant Ship, the Prometheus Travels at just over 19X the Speed of Light and so in 8-9 years the Prometheus would Travel 150-170 Light Years. The Nostromo could travel at nearly 47X the Speed of Light and so in 8-9 years would reach 370-420 Light Years and so for the Covenant its completely open for debate.
But i would Safely Assume Origae-6 is over 150 Light Years from Earth, but maybe no more than 450 Light Years but again until we have the Distance of Origae-6 or the Distance of Planet 4 its open to anyone's guess.
I would say however that LV-426 is a good 6-7 years closer Travel than Origae-6 and so i would assume Origae-6 is 5-7X further away from Earth than LV-426
@red0guy
Thats maybe interesting, and i think maybe they could give us a Ripley Connection, some wondered if Daniels would be revealed as Ripleys Mother... But a lot have to consider the Time-Line.
Ridley Scott was open to bringing Ripley back and even said you could De-age Miss Weaver, he also mentioned after AC that Ripley is someones DAUGHTER which may be a hint to a reveal of Ripleys Parents in the next movie, but does this mean as far as Colonist? or a Company Ship?
Again we need to consider the Time-Line where Ellen Ripley would actually be 12 years old at the time of Alien Covenant, now people can age less due to Cryo-sleep but then how would Ripley appear to be in her early 30's in Alien when Alien Covenant is set 18 years prior to ALIEN so i think it would be interesting how they deal and if they deal with Ripley post ALIEN and i think having her play a role in the Sequels would be very Poor, as we have to ask WHY/WHEN would she be placed within that Timeline, considering the Role she had established her self as (Warrent Officer) in ALIEN in the year 2122. I feel revealing her Parents or one of them to be part of a a incoming Ship/Mission would fit more, rather than being a Colonist because we have to then ask.
1) Why would her Parents be off on a 8-9 year Mission to Origae-6 and leave their 10-11 year old Daughter at Home?
2) How does a 12 year old Ripley Age 15-20 years while spending 8-9 years in Cryo-sleep on the Covenant and then end up growing up and getting to the role of Warrent Officer in less than a 10 year Time-Line.
The fingers look a little off. They are paired more like the one immediately above this post. I don't recall ever seeing a full clear pic of it from behind. Thanks!
Honestly, I think my NECA Runner and AVP Xenos look pretty much just as good.
@daliens
Interesting you bring this up, when we had the trailer to AC and the Crossing Prologue i was wondering and indeed this would be something i would have explored if i had some creative input into the Franchise, if indeed David would have Ultimately had to Destroy the Engineers to Spare Dr Shaw and make up something to justify his Actions..
Dr Shaw had nothing left at the end of Prometheus all she had was her FAITH and her Questions and she would rather risk her Life to find these out than to LIVE and never get her answers. But we see David grew Fond of Dr Shaw due to how she treated him, and she appears to be the only person to EVER treat David more than being a Robot... He may have found out so much about the Engineers that place Mankind as a Pest and insignificant and thus likely Dr Shaw would be killed with NO answers rather than getting any.
So i wondered if David would carry out the Engineers Destruction and then latter convince Dr Shaw he had no choice and the Engineers would have provided Dr Shaw No Answers, or something that she would not have been comfortable with.
So NOW via Davids Actions Dr Shaw has NOTHING.. But i felt David could well see that he could actually OFFER Dr Shaw what she was never able to have... that is to Conceive a CHILD so way before we even saw the Movie never mind the Advent Prologue that was released after... i wondered if David could propose to Dr Shaw that they can Re-build a New World from the ASHES of the Engineers World, and David could find a way that would allow Dr Shaw to have Children.
I felt this would explain why we had those Human Baby Skulls in his Work Shop, and i felt that Dr Shaw could go along with this before their Relationship took a turn for the Worse when Davids Feelings for Dr Shaw became a bit complicated and then Dr Shaw found out David had lied about the Engineers and he chose to Destroy them for his own Personal Agenda.
This caused Dr Shaw to then grow to have concerns about David and distrust him and attempt to leave, which is when i wondered if David would then keep her Prisoner and then feel Rejected by her and then proceed to Experiment on Dr Shaw and her Babies.
Upon seeing Alien Covenant i found out this theory i had was in part WRONG but then in part was also CORRECT and it appears Dr Shaws objection to Davids Advances caused her concern to want to leave, and David felt betrayed and then decided to use Dr Shaw for his Experiments, those Babies being revealed as being Engineer Infants and not Dr Shaws Off Spring.
So indeed Dr Shaw became Davids greatest Specimen.
As far as the LV-223 Engineers being more like David i think this is up for debate, it depends if the Source was correct or not, but regardless i am not sure we can rule it out, it appears those LV-223 Engineers are Evolved Subjects compared to those on Planet 4, it appears they have been Genetically Advanced, but then who is to say the LV-223 Engineers could not be the beings above those Planet 4 Engineers, there is a difference for sure but its a case of if this will be addressed of if we have to ACCEPT the AC Engineers and Prometheus are all ONE and the SAME
It looks like a robot.
You're welcome BigDave.
If Disney does not intend to surprise us with an Alien Universe movie a year, I'll be unhappy.
If Scott is not allowed to make an expensive Alien prequel, I'll be angry. Very-very angry...
I find this is lacking some detail, especially the head which is a bit disappointing in terms of detail and scale compared to the rest of the figure.
Thanks for the Share none the less ;)
I will add the direction the Franchise takes and how many movies we get will SOLELY come down to how well at the BOX Office the Next Movie performs, if the movie does well then Disney would be open to do more and as long as they continue to do well, indeed we could see more and more Alien movies..
But if the next ONE does only as well or less so than Alien Covenant, then i can see Disney either pulling the Plug or REBOOT the Entire Franchise.
A lot now comes down to IF Ridley Scotts ideas and plans are what will really pull in the $$$$$ and Interest of if his ideas about AI and Philosophy and less about the Xenomorph and how the Engineers/Space Jockey are to be explored are something that the Fans would Flock too or if they cant shake away the Nostalgia of Xenomorphs and Ripley.
'Ash knows how to throw a party!!! Lol! ALIEN 79 - 1:18 scale'
Source: https://muthur9000.tumblr.com/post/168313253456/sithfire30-ash-knows-how-to-throw-a-party
I think this will be met with mixed views from the community, and i think those holding out for a Blomkamp Alien 5 could be made the most happiest, while Disney would have more Financial Fire Power i think again as with FOX it will come down to what they feel will pull in the crowds.
I cant see this deal meaning a Alien Movie Franchise like the Star Wars because i dont think the Alien Franchise is no where near as large as the Star Wars Franchise, this is not me saying the Alien Franchise is not good however... but it has a more selective Audience that is somewhat Fractured regarding how the Franchise has gone since after Alien 3.
So i feel Disney will be looking to see what has caused the Split between Fans of the Franchise and we can only hope they will attempt to put RIGHT what they feel has gone so WRONG with the Franchise.
I feel this is a bit of a Blow to any plans Ridley Scott has had, because Disney may over look what ever input and impact that Ridley Scott has had on the Franchise and they would go for what ever they thing the MAINSTREAM would want instead... which Unfortunately could mean that Miss Weaver could now have the Bigger Say in the Franchise.... as i am sure Disney may feel the Xenomorph and Ripley are what the Franchise is all about.
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My hypothesis is that it is a great event , something unexpected, wherein an engineer survived can be infected by a facehugger, leading to the appearance of the first xenomorph that over time will evolve with mutation in Queen type loss of skin and muscle acceleration , which is why the eggs in the basket "Juggernaut' would become his house.
About Ridley i think that we should not trust everything he says because ideas are perfected in time and certainly also he is in constant mutation , just think James Franco that would initially survivor
"Au Revoir Shoshanna"
I'm still upset about this film but trying hard to make peace with it. Don't really mind any angle w David and AI, etc. What ticks me off is Ridley's hard on for symbolism at the cost of basic standards to make a solid film. Like decent characters w proper dialogue. I'll just wait for the bluray instead of going to the theater and being red hot pissed at terrible directorial decisions. It will be great if he gets back to basics and not continue to be so pretentious/misguided. Of course if nobody tells him no I suspect more bad decisions. The ingredients were there but the "finished" product failed hard for me. Glad many like it and the hope for a great followup is here
, just that my expectations are low
Bigdave, what is the Company's obsession with the xenomorph? It seems the Engineer tech is much more useful. Also, how far is Orgae-6 from LV-426?
Bigdave, that's why I'm not sure there is any bio-mechanical element at all. Maybe we are reading too much into the original design?
Excellent point Zogar.
Enemy of the State was great with Ridley Scott's brother Tony under Disney.
O Brother, Where art Thou? was great too from The Coen Brothers under Disney. If only we could introduce Mr. Jeffrey Lebowski to the Alien franchise.
John Carter, Disney, a dumper that killed the budget for another Tron sequel. And by dumper, I mean an elephant pile mashed across the movie screen, in your popcorn, the car stinks from the ride home...the kids are crying, the dogs are howling...please help me because someone took a dump under my eyelids..
