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Tiwaz

Ah, good, and TY for easing my concerns. 'copycatting' may not be an 'official' word, but is still useful. :)

No worries, I only growl at spelling and grammar nazis. :D

Torpedos:
I know about the 'swivel' launchers from some WW2 vessels, and yeah modern torpedos are actually quite intelligent so it's really only a matter of just throwing them outside and letting them do the work. :D

Also, yeah, I agree that torps and mssiles are pretty much the same weapons in space, hence why I made the distinction I did with regards to Target size, as otherwise there's just NO genuine reason to call any missile a 'torpedo'.
I admit, it is something of an artificial distinction, but part of writing is about 'feel', so therein lay the real reason why torpedoes are still called 'torpedoes'. :D

That all said, this is still all 1st draft so I have plenty of time and room to change things if I find a better way to frame and phrase things. ;) I'm still digging through a LOT of military-weapon related information for ideas and terminology and all that good stuff, so there's a pretty good chance I'll find something better than 'torpedoes' to go with.

TAU DRONES:
I kinda thought so as you mentioned they can use man/personal level weapons, like, as an example, a Bolt Gun or such equivalent-sized weapon.

THE PIC:
It's a scene from TERMINATOR: Salvation, where the A-10's are engaging the Harvester Transporter after it's taken Kyle reese aboard.

I understand. Doctors and other people in the medical field have a strong stomach.

joylitt My work is medical in nature. I have been exposed to the sights, smells, blood, psychological trauma etc... My family is the same way. We can talk all kinds of sick sh$t during Thanksgiving dinner. No joke. Although I like AC, I don't think the franchise ever "wowed" me since the Quadriogy. You can disagree and that is fine, but that is my view.

dk lol an ass burster. Try to see something to real blood and real viscera like this year's film "Raw" and I bet you will put your snacks away. Visceral is the way to go with body horror.

When I heard they were bragging about getting gallons and gallons of fake blood I thought to myself: Wow they are really going to get into real oldschool body horror. But what good is all that blood if it is processed through lazy cgi.

Ati I think I see your point. Alien was a complete package and was horror on a psychological level. I have become pretty jaded over the decades. I think David's ambiguity and creepiness created the tension of Alien I felt more than any gore AC had. If AC had an ass burster, I wouldn't bat an eye and would continue eating my snacks.

The problem is that the body horror conveyed through cgi makes the scenes no different from any generic scene in a superhero movie. That is what makes AC more of a mashup of genres. I would say this movie would fit nicely along movies like "World War Z", an adventure thriller with horror elements. It just has a fair share of unintentional comedy in it too.

Interesting. I always thought that before but this video confirms it. Thanks for sharing!

Oddly, it recalls another odd character:

Funny that he finds gay Buffalo Bill to be the scariest serial killer, when we have seen Hannibal Lecter eating the brain from a conscious victim in "Hannibal". I the early 90's, both "The Silence of the Lambs" and "Basic Instinct" were criticized for featuring LGBT characters as the embodiment of evil. Alien Covenant jumped on the same train 25 years later.

That's not a Fidget- THIS is a Fidget:

Alien version:

Demonstration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX1KxzSDfiw

Yep- I am an old codger.

Google it. They actually made an Alien themed one custom made

Lilly (Svanya) - I'm glad you share my view. :)

dk - Ok, I see your point, but you can't tell that Alien (1979) is a psycho-horror because it is more than a psycho-horror. Similarly, we can't state that Covenant is a thriller since it is much more than an average thriller. Gore - we like it or not - makes these movies real horror. However, one of the complaints againts Covenant was that it doesn't include enough body horror.

The backburst scene is shocking in my opinion: the atmosphere, the ost, the blood factor, etc. It is my fav scene in the AU. 

Am I going to sound old if I say no lol??

I've heard of them, but I wouldn't know what one is.....

@Ati , exactly. Those scenes are pure horror imo, esp. the face and backburster ones. 

BWW, i don't think you have to worry bout copycatting (issatevenaword?). From what i gather the Arrows are smaller and don't carry torpedoes.

I don't want to be a wiseass but real navy ships had (at least some) and maybe still have "turreted" torpedoes. However, since modern torpedoes, like missiles, are guided weapons they don't have to be launched "on target" anymore. In so far no need for turrets. It now depends on what kind of "cigars" your little doom machine sports. ;) And in space torps are missiles, over sized maybe but still. Akin of Tomahawk cruise missiles. So enough smartassed, before i get growled at. ;) 

As for the Tau drones they're from Warhammer 40k. They're not very big and meant for ground combat.

The pic is just for reference. The Tau (left) is roughly the size of a normal human.

And finally what movie is that sequence from?

The gore aspect isn't even a factor to me. It has always been part of the franchise. That said, I think "Thriller" seems appropriate.

IRaptus

Lol, is that a joke question. A fidget spinner is like a spinning top in the form of a three pointed star 

IRaptus LOL- a great snip of "Going Nowhere Fast"!

I already broke my own rules in the OP so we will just adlib. It still ends upon arriving to work, but there can be stops and turns along the way :)

that's just a day at the office Ati XD

Some of the scenes flashed by so quickly sadly you didn't get a good chance to appreciate the gore and detail

what on earth is a fidget spinner. Something you slap fidgetter's with? 

dk hahaha so.....was I meant to turn left at Jupiter?

Working hard, or hardly working....you decide

I like this topic, its great fun

I need a better GPS. I don't recognize this route to work.

Tiwaz

Thanks for reading that little 'appetizer'! TY also for the compliment and encouragement! :)

I never read The Rage War trilogy, and actually the enemy vessel was inspired mainly by the stealth ship Anubis from the tv series The Expanse.

However, the differences between the inspiration-source and the beast I've unleashed vs Manticore are quite extreme. ;)

Is there somewhere I can look up some info on the Arrow-class you mention? I'd like to ensure there's significant Differences between the ship I've positted and the one you mention so folks don't think I'm playing copy-cat. :)

I understand about turreted-torpedos and I do agree, to a point. The way my brain works however is that missiles can be turreted--and usually are--but torpedos cannot be.

Yes I know that sounds silly. :D

As will be defined in-story, missiles are lighter weapons, faster and meant for engaging anything from Fighters to Corvettes/Cutters.
Anything bigger you use torpedos against as larger vessels don't have the maneuverability to evade them (usually) and torpedos are ship-busters every bit as much as they are today.
And as torpedos aren't used as much as weapons like MAccelerator cannons, it's something of a waste to occupy a turret with a torpedo launcher.
Also, I admit, I like the WW2 'feel' of fixed-mount tubes and that a ship must maneuver to bring them to bear on a target.

Hmm, I like the Tau drones, nice, clean, straightforward design, TY for showing them to me!
As for drones...heh, here's what inspired the Wyvern-class Battle drones that Manticore is carrying. I saw this scene in the movie and the brain just immediately jumped to work.

dk - Great topic! :)

IRaptus - It's awesome! :D

'Don't talk to me it, its too early in the morning!!'

Biopunk

Ingeniero - It is an interesting and informative topic, I like it very much.

'I believe the five ridges across the back of the kneeling beast are the Engineer's fingers as if the organism is an extension of the Engineer's will.' - Exciting thought.

daliens - Here you are:

You're joking, aren't you? :)

What are these scenes if they are not horror?

Keep it rolling. This is a newish concept. No worries IRaptus

sorry dk I just entirely hi-jacked your thread

Well, off to work.

then by about lunch time....

(LOL- looks like David doesn't like the corn bread either).

Look, I don’t have time for this. I’ve got to get to work.

Noooooo!

Don't talk to me it, its too early in the morning!!

Coffee??

Much better

Alright, Im off to work, cya dear

"I don't believe David would share the body with Walter. He cannot afford losing control, he would rather cut his hand off."

I agree with what you wrote above daliens. David attacked Walter shortly after he was told he couldn't leave Paradise. That was David's house and he wasn't going to take synthetic guff in it.

Cornbread?

"In Alien Covenant, the humanoids on Planet 4 appear to be monks & lacking in technology.  I think they have also agreed to a Covenant with their GOD, that they would no longer participate in their meddling with the Xenomorph, the black mutagen, or the life cycle associated with the Xeno."

Great point above and overall topic Cerulean Blue. I believe that David's words below from Advent below may lend support to a "Covenant" that the Engineers agreed to. 

"But then they tried to banish the wolf, And undo their creation. So I took their secrets for myself."

My question is "why" would the Engineers set aside the wolf?

They had to agreed to do this and who convinced them to do it?