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(Call- that little devil acting wasted).

(As soon as Call can't be seen by the boys, she takes a deep breathe and gets focus.  All home brew stupor is shaken off in an instant, like she never had a drink.)

(Call wonders down the corridor till she comes to the restricted area door she was looking for.  She pulls out some high tech glove to get past the fingerprint scanner.  It takes a minute, but it works.  The door opens and Call steps in...)

(She's looking for the right cell door and when she finds it, she enters.  It's the one Ripley is in.  She kneels down next to the sleeping Ripley and draws a blade to force it through Ripley's chest.  Yet, right where the blade would go is a scar.  Call hesitates, staring, realization flooding her face.)

Ripley's eyes awaken like she knew this girl was there the whole time, "Well?"

Ripley paused to allow her to answer, but instead is obligated to speak again, "You gonna kill me or what?"

Blackwinter-witch All great points. I like all the movies except Prometheus. The point is that we can find faults with just about anything if we want to. I actually enjoy seeing someone intelligently ripping on something I like. It reminds me that is just a story.

dk
Okay, you asked for it. ALIEN 3, well too easy, really.

ALIEN, starting with the facehugger:

1; WHY would any critter NEED the ability to secrete acid to burn through something like a faceplate?
(keep in mind I am operating solely off what the movie itself provides as info).

2; Okay, we have scans that show the ovipositor tube, but NO one ever bothered to keep an eye on Kane via x-rays and such?? There's NO valid reason for them missing the implantation and presence of the immature chestburster inside Kane.

3; Special Order 937 is insane. NO way in hell is anyone going to ask/force a crew of unqualified people to acquire and then give supportive care to some extraterrestrial critter which would (in most cases) be a biological Unknown and thus require skilled, intelligent and experienced (insofar as that goes) handling to try to keep it alive.
Especially if it's Intelligent, as they thought they'd be dealing with due to an artificial signal.
You grab some Intelligent critter from a crash site, you damned well better be prepared to deal with Diplomatic Issues and a whole ream of other things. Some crashed and stranded alien being is from a Civilization, right? And if that's a First Contact situation, then Tug jockeys are NOT the right people for the job.

4; Flamethrowers...aboard a starship, a sealed environment filled with assorted flammable items and loaded with all manner of pressurized gas supply lines in walls and ceilings. Also, why the hell would you have 'The basic models' in storage aboard a ship anyways???

5; Kane not remarking on the stuff dripping off the eggs UPWARDS. I dunno about you, but I'd comment about seeing something that cool and odd.

6; Statistically, you present a person with something weird, in an unsettling environment, then include wet, pulsing organic tissues...they will back away and leave, NOT stick their face into it.

7; Jones being allowed free run aboard ship. Looking around that ship there's a LOT of ways a cat could get hurt, suffer some seriously bad falls and such. Would any of you allow your cat to roam such an environment freely? I sure wouldn't.

8; Nostromo being allowed to operate without sufficient emergency escape positions available for ALL members of the crew. Yeah, NO way that ship would have been allowed to fly until that had been addressed and corrected.

9; The disappearing and reappearing 4 'gigantic' spotlights we see at the stern-underside during landing and lift-off.

10: Nostromo's landing gear, won't fit inside the hull or engine nacelles.
Also a ship that big would need more landing feet/struts to properly distribute it's weight. Look at the ship relative to the landing gear.

Blackwinter-witch It might be a cheap shot at Alien, but I remember when Ripley went in to talk with MUTHUR, the door made an obvious noise opening and shutting- she was obviously alone. Next, Ash appeared to explain things but we did not hear the door open.

PROGRESS UPDATE: 122098 word count at present. It's coming closer and closer to being finished. It's approximately 90% complete, maybe more, but 90% at Minimum.
Then, just a quick editing pass to check for spelling errors and related other flaws, after which it'll be published. :D

EXCERPT*********

After an hour, Sin had reached the side of the cistern opposite to where he’d entered it. He’d spotted some unusual deformations on a wall section close to a doorway and had gone with his gut instinct, moving in with total caution, rifle up, finger on trigger. As he’d gotten closer, the deformations had resolved into abstract shapes, then his eyes had found order within the abstract, seeing the profile of egg-shaped pods.
Not all were fully-so, some were a disturbing tableau where it looked like one of the large ovoids was in the process of swallowing a human being, and in some cases one of the small hominid creatures. Even at a distance he could hear a low, woeful and desolate moaning through his helmet’s open-air auditory pickups.
Moving closer, he studied what he saw, but still kept watch around himself for threats. They’d all figured the nightmarish creature sheathed in obsidian-colored chitin was merely a predatory lifeform, none of them had ever given any real consideration to how it reproduced.
“Manticore, I’ve found something. Stand by.” He said into the comms and considered how to proceed. He didn’t want to try juggling his phone and rifle to snap some still pics and video. He decided to try his helmet camera system, not expecting much after the damage his suit had sustained in the grenade explosion.
There was no useful response, and after another sweeping scan around himself he took out his phone, selected the functions one-handed and began snapping still images and video, cradling his rifle’s forestock across his left elbow so he could still use it effectively while operating his phone, the rifle‘s taclight supplying enough light for good image-quality.
It was the longest five minutes of his life before he stopped recording, quickly putting the phone away, then checking around again. One of the persons trapped in one of the bizarrely-molded resinous pod-nests seemed aware of him, as he saw the head raise and could see the person looking at him. Moving closer, he could make out that it was a man, who bore a close resemblance to Meers as seen in some of Katherine’s suit-camera still-images.
The man tried to speak, his lips moved, then he coughed and weakly and vomited a small gout of green-brown mucous. His face, covered in darkly-discoloured patches that looked to be decomposing, squeezed it’s features together in evident agony, and Sin heard the moan the man gave. The lips of the egg-pod were up around the man’s neck, and Sin glanced over at the other pods that weren’t complete yet, seeing one where the the still unclosed lips left the top of a person’s head still visible.
“Sin, what’s going on?” Came Selina’s voice over his comms.
“I’ve found a nest, larger than what you and Declan found on the wildcatter. Took some pics and video for Smythe, heading out to find Katherine. I’ve had enough of this fucking horrorshow.” He replied, doing a quick check around, and freezing as his taclight revealed the substance of nightmares not six feet from him, caught in the act of reaching for him with it’s large, dual-thumbed hand.

END OF EXCERPT*********

OK Ati- out with it. Bring on everything wrong with Alien and Alien 3 if they exist. This is pretty entertaining.

dk

 NO worries!! I can also find picking-points with ALIEN also. :D

ALIENS was well-done, and it's a good movie, I will readily admit that. It had some interesting and colorful characters, which unfortunately got killed off, but there were many 'good deaths'.
Also, it put Bill Paxton on the 'Map', and he will always be missed.

JOHNNER: Bitches should not play with the boys, they will get cleaned out.

(to Christie)

Rack'em up.

BLASPHEMY! You can trash A3, AR and Prometheus to your heart's content, but not Alien and Aliens!

LOL- kidding! I think we need to be able to sit back and laugh at the ribbing of our sacred cows! Upvoted.

Call- I'm tapped. I'm sleeping. (She drunkenly tumbles out of the room).

Just popping by while taking a break from writing. There's been a lot of ALIEN films on tv lately, ALIENS being one of them of course.

I like ALIENS, but to me it just doesn't have the proper 'feel' of the ALIENverse. I guess it's in how the creatures are treated as kamikaze attackers and it's a matter of record how much I hate the entire mediocre idea of a 'queen' alien.

The saying goes "Unless you can do better, shut-up."
Well, I've started MY version of 'ALIENS' (with a different title of course) and as it's a short story, it'll be coming up to completion fairly soon.
So, yeah, I'll put my work up against Cameron's and let you, the Audience' decide.

But anyone expecting Ripley, Newt, etc. are in for absolute disappointment.
This isn't a revision of Cameron's work, it's an Original Work set about 5 years after the events of ALIEN: Manticore but doesn't involve that ship or crew in any way.

CHRISTIE: You in for another game?

It is pretty funny. Doesn't change my liking the movie.

cuponator3000 - It's available on ebay.

You are welcome and I'm glad you like them.

Cerulean Blue - Great topic! And great question as well because it includes another question: Is/Was David able to control this 'defensive mechanism'?

Ingeniero - Profound and thought-provoking work again!

Ok, let's do it! :D

JOHNER - Just for colouring.

*Smash cut to Ripley's Chamber: 

As she suddenly awakes, eyes wide, breathing hard. 

She has been sleeping in the same position she was before: Squatting in the middle of the room. She still weara her collar and cuffs, but in her cell the cables have been removed from them. She looks about her room, recovering from the nightmare. With a somewhat fatlistic look, she settles back to sleep. 

*In the Mess Hall: 

Christie, Call, and Johner are still at their all night pool marathon. Crhistie makes a couple of impressive bank shots. Johner grumbles, throws some money on the table as the last ball clicks in the pocket. Call takes a big swig -- not her first -- from Johner's thermos, makes a face. She tries to stand up, takes a spill over her chair. Others laugh. 

Call - Jesus, Johner, what do you put in that shit, battery acid?

When I look at that image of the unrecognised pharaoh I instantly think of Guile from Street Fighter lol

Maybe its the attitude stance, and Guiles tall hair that looks like similar to a Pharaoh Headdress Crown

Great topic Starlogger. I left out that I agree with your quote I cited below.

"He isn't necessarily being "evil"...only dead set on a task at hand, the way all synthetics are supposed to be." 

David 8 knows the difference in between right and wrong in the same way he understands two different types of tools or two different sizes of screws. I don't think he is evil but can perform that way if directed or if he goes insane (synthetically). No feelings nor mercy ("Nostalgia is the enemy of science").

daliens, I read the story in the link you posted above. Very tough.

I tried to answer your above question here, daliens.

Thank you for asking.

Ingeniero that's an interesting understanding of Hell.

I'm not sure if you read "Other people" by Neil Gaiman. There's another frightful description of Hell.

https://www.google.ro/amp/a-sunsetinmyveins.tumblr.com/post/1462028133/a-story-from-fragile-things-short-fictions-and/amp

I'm going to skip this one too.

"...the ultimate maturation of the engineers' direction if not their literal fate. Through the virus / Xenomorph as glorious synthesis and poetic culmination of the species. And an amusing biblical one at that. Though not quite linear due to my own inheritance..."

What does that mean?

Thanks for another great post Ingeniero

Davefried81

I always thought the Derelict Engineer in Alien was the first pure birth of the bio mechanical Xeno. It all adds up since the Xeno takes on its hosts characteristics.  When an Engineer is all suited up in the flight suit, it is biomechanical.

The first biomechanical Xeno we see is the son of Kane. Unless a "queen" was born from the Space Jockey and laid all those eggs from the derelict ship...

On the other hand the Deacon emerged from a suited up engineer and it does not look at all like the suit of its host. Is there any chance the Deacon is actually a "queen"? There must be some important point in showing the Deacon at the end of Prometheus.

I agree regarding a book of David 8's drawings Davefried81. Thank you for the kind words.

Fantastic example Dark Nebula. Thank you so much for the image above.

To me, it looks closer to one of Giger's early xenomorph designs.

"He isn't necessarily being "evil"...only dead set on a task at hand, the way all synthetics are supposed to be."

Hell, in my understanding, is the total removal of mercy. Walter confirmed in Phobos that he does not feel anything in regards to emotion..."a human insecurity" is what he said.

David 8 was designed to project emotion.

David 8 is an emotion advertising sign telling you of something he doesn't own.

I believe David 8 is emotionally sterile underneath the emotional facade he projects to navigate the humans around him towards task completion.

In the fact that David 8 has no mercy...he is Hell walking toward you but a great asset if it is your task he is working on.

Sorry, friggin quadruple post!

 ngeniero Dang that is a good catch!  When are we going to get a published book on David's notes.  We need it..NOW

David 8's notes regarding forearms' development:

See notes above; C.2.) “show a transition from curiously unmodified forearm skeletal structure to a more fortified one where mass is transferred to reinforcing lateral ridges.”

You are not crazy Davefried81.

You are most welcome Cerulean Blue.

I agree Lawrence of Arabia and hope we see the military Engineers (LV-223) again...and I do believe we will.

I assume the Engineer suit is biomechanical due to the adhesion to Engineer skin and the ability to delivery needed nutrition for thousands of years in hypersleep.

I can't help but notice the similarities in between the Engineer suit and aspects of the biomechanical xenomorph.

Was David 8 able to harness the technology the Engineer's use to grow/develop their suits and incorporate it into his organism?

Glad you posted this!  I have done a pretty fair amount of studying and research on the Engineer suit.  I swear I am not crazy if I see the Engineer suit resembling the Big Chap Xeno markings?  Between the rib cage, the forearm pictures posted it is almost a perfect fit.  I always thought the Derelict Engineer in Alien was the first pure birth of the bio mechanical Xeno.  It all adds up since the Xeno takes on its hosts characteristics.  When an Engineer is all suited up in the flight suit, it is biomechanical.  Now I am ranting!  But yes...the Engineer suit really does look like it has Big Chap characteristics.

Very Cool!!

TYVM!!!  I love the suit!!