Engineer Biblical Inheritance
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianSep-13-2017 12:22 PMEngineer Biblical Inheritance
Here is an exert from the National Institutes of Health:
Giants have been around since time began; they are first described in the Bible in the book of Genesis (6:1-4)1. Originally, giants appear to have been regarded positively, often considered as heroes, particularly by the non-Hebrew population. After the great Flood, giants remained present in the scriptural texts, but their good reputation had waned in the eyes of the Hebrews, and they often tended to be seen as the enemy, often fighting in armies.
Giants lived together as a number of separate races, before and after the Flood. The exact relations between different families of giants are a little unclear. For example, the Nephilim (Numbers 13:32-33), appear to be present before and after the flood. The Emites, the Ammonites (or Anakites) and the Rephaim (Deuteronomy 2:10-11), existed after the Flood and appear to be separate entities although the chronicler often uses the phrase ‘like’ suggesting they had a similar phenotype. The Anakim seem to be derived from the Nephilim. (source)
Dr. Shaw's Notes tied the Engineers to the Nephilim
I.Raptus
MemberPraetorianSep-13-2017 1:39 PMWhen I look at that image of the unrecognised pharaoh I instantly think of Guile from Street Fighter lol
Maybe its the attitude stance, and Guiles tall hair that looks like similar to a Pharaoh Headdress Crown
SuperAlien
MemberXenomorphSep-14-2017 1:04 AMThanks, Ingeniero. Very interesting parallel to the biblical story.
However Shaw's notes on ancient Egypt are ridiculous. Even if there were some changes during Akhenaten reign and at the demise of the ancient Egypt civilization during ptolemaic kingdom there could never have existed such a representation like that giant punk dude, in an arms crossed pose. The Egyptian canon was very strict over the centuries.
That giant from Shaw's note looks more like the YMCA policeman :)
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SuperAlien
MemberXenomorphSep-14-2017 1:13 AMAs for the Mayan reference of Chichen Itza, it would have been more convincing if king Pakal's tombstone from Palenque was used instead. It is well known among the ancient aliens theory fans.
"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"
Cerulean Blue
MemberFacehuggerSep-14-2017 6:42 AM@Ingeniero - Another great post!! It seems the Engineers created the suits they wore? Is that correct?
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianSep-14-2017 6:50 AMIt comes just as I'm trying to be serious.
IRaptus and daliens, your comments are both direct evidence that I have maxed out the excitement over Dr. Shaw's notes.
I know the notes came out over 5 years ago and are old news to many but I wanted to pump you up with a secondary reference tying the Engineers to the Nephilim.
Original question:
"an amusing biblical one at that." and "not quite linear"
What does that mean?, daliens
My conclusions, answer to your question (simplified):
That origin may be from the Watchers/Fallen Angels of the Bible ("an amusing biblical one at that.") and the poem Paradise Lost.
By "not quite linear", David 8 may identify with the humans (divine creation) that created him and not the rebellious angels (Watchers, different heritage) that created their own path to Earth and polluted the genome of the humans.
Does the explanation sound reasonable in regards to "not quite linear" from David 8's perspective (human history) to the Engineer's Biblical Inheritance (Nephilim history)?
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianSep-14-2017 8:39 AMHello Cerulean Blue.
The Engineer suits worn in Dr. Shaw's notes look like human clothing, most likely provided to them by humans that worshipped them on Earth.
SuperAlien
MemberXenomorphSep-14-2017 9:09 AMIt may be that David created the Xenomorph as glorious synthesis and poetic culmination of the species?
David's inheritance added to the Engineers' direction of biomechanical concerns? Is it like a divine intervention, on and above Engineers' "ultimate maturation", meaning that the Xenomorph is something the Engineers would have never succeeded to create? So David steps in to break the linear evolution and to seal the engineers' fate?
Can this be his statement that the biomechanical Xenomorph design is ready and waiting to be released?
Not sure at all about the "amusing biblical" reference. Most likely the engineers can be linked with the nephilim but is David meaning their fate? What is amusing here?
"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"
sherris
MemberChestbursterSep-14-2017 9:47 AMIs there such a thing as Shaws Notebook ?
I just bought Art of Prometheus last week and got A:C art and making this week. Prometheus seems better for me.
Anyway this note book availability pla guys ?
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Lawrence of Arabia
MemberChestbursterSep-14-2017 12:27 PMFantastic analysis Ingeniero :)
"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianSep-16-2017 12:53 PMI think what David 8 means is that the Engineers got soft and lost touch with the magnificent cruelty they had refined in their past. I also think you nailed it daliens in the explanation below in regards to the idle capability:
"David's inheritance added to the Engineers' direction of biomechanical concerns? Is it like a divine intervention, on and above Engineers' "ultimate maturation", meaning that the Xenomorph is something the Engineers would have never succeeded to create? So David steps in to break the linear evolution and to seal the engineers' fate?
Can this be his statement that the biomechanical Xenomorph design is ready and waiting to be released?"
I believe "ultimate maturation" means to see it through, toss aside nostalgia, and maximize (maturity) the tools available to him (David 8). What David 8 brought to the party was no mercy and a chip on his shoulder for Weyland wanting tea and the Engineer pulling off his head.
The "glorious synthesis" mentioned seems to tend toward that every strength possessed by the Engineers was refined into the xenomorph virus. And that "ultimate maturation" means to let it loose.
Covenant Mission Priority (Phobos)
The above message reads like an order for clinical trials.