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Fargo Is great, I've seen the first two seasons and I highly recommend.
And yeah I said the same thing about the budget in Alien Theory's discord server. It's worth noting we got a small look at Earth in a Covenant deleted scene. I'd say with Scott producing, Earth should probably resemble it somewhat.
The show’s Twitter revealed: “Alien is currently in development at FX Networks. The first TV series based on the classic film series is helmed by Fargo and Legion’s Noah Hawley. Expect a scary thrill ride set not too far in the future here on Earth.”
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Alien is currently in development at @FXNetworks. The first TV series based on the classic film series is helmed by Fargo and Legion's @noahhawley. Expect a scary thrill ride set not too far in the future here on Earth. pic.twitter.com/jZe1CRFAZD
— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020
FX chief John Landgraf also said: “FX is moving quickly to bring audiences the first television series based on one of the greatest science- fiction horror classics ever made: ‘Alien.’ ‘Alien’ will be helmed by ‘Fargo’ and ‘Legion’s’ Noah Hawley stepping into the creator/executive producer chair, and FX is in advanced negotiations with Academy Award winner, Sir Ridley Scott, director of the first ‘Alien’ film and the sequel, ‘Alien: Covenant,’ to join the project as an Executive Producer. Set not too far into our future, it’s the first ‘Alien’ story set on Earth, and by blending both the timeless horror of the first ‘Alien’ film with the non-stop action of the second, it’s going to be a scary thrill ride that will blow people back in their seats.”
Additionally, we hear Ridley Scott will serve as an executive producer. There is no word yet on if Sigourney Weaver’s Ripley or any of the other characters from the saga will also be in the series. But we’ll keep you updated as we hear more. (source)
I also upvote for something like Earth War - a truly great story.
It's will be like a cyberpunk. But without neon and cybernetic implants. A mix between horror and intense action.
Perhaps, it will be a story after Isolation. Amanda Ripley return to Earth and find some xenotecnologies.
On Earth?! Must be a budget thing.
This sounds more like a Predator series.
Maybe it takes place in a space station in orbit.....I hope it has some space action? IMHO won't be Alien without.
It has to have a damn good script if it happens on Earth.
Will it have some WY and androids conspiracy? Or it will be like one of the werewolves films, where the werewolf is replaced by Alien?
I did not watch Legion / Fargo, I guess it's about time to give them a try.
I doubt Ripley is in it. I think it's likely running off the same concept Noah Hawley related recently. Here's the link
Alien on Earth. Is Ripley in it?
I'm kind of skeptical, but nevertheless eager to see it. If Ridley is involved can't be bad.
I agree. He's one of my top 5 favorite characters in the series, just look at my profile home photo. I actually think Alien 3's cast as whole is rather underrated.
What I got to say so far is that I can't say I care about the idea of an Earth setting. Over on discord a lot of the guys seem hyped about because they're hoping they're adapting The Earth War comics. I really hope they aren't and doubt they are any way.
Dillon has to David a couple of questions about God and faith.
If it is something like the book Alien: Covenant - Origins, I'll say - cool!
Ya I've heard about it on The Perfect Organism podcast but then it was just speculation. It's good to hear that there is more than just talk about it.
I'm just as cheap lol. I don't even have home internet.
OT- The final KISS concert will eventually be on YT. Yes, I am a cheap skate.
You're welcome. I don't have either Hulu or Netflix lol. I watched The Mandalorian by *ahem* other means.
Figures. I cancelled Hulu last month. I will lurk and renew if it is any good. Thanks for the info.
MonsterZero
I think it's reasonable to assume that W-Y would have searched Fiorina 161 thoroughly. They would therefore have found the damaged synthetic Bishop, at least one facehugger, the shed skin of the baby xenomorph and the blood sample of Ripley. The blood sample would contain a blend of human and xenomorph DNA.
I suppose it's possible that Bishop and his team made experiments with what they found and it ended in disaster?
"I think that from the beginning you saw the alien more like a parasite that grew in the body of its host and where it absorbed nutrition from its host (not DNA). I think with Alien 3 we got the notion that it took on traits from its host, the xenomorph running on all fours e.g. That is, it absorbed DNA from its host."
Ridley spoke about the Alien taking on traits of the host in interviews while they were making the first film.
Alien3 just made it really obvious.
I'd like to see a Dr. Frankenstein and Igor land on LV-223 and do some xenoarchaeology.
Two figures enter an alien tomb...
Maybe characters like this were aboard the Patna. Just waiting to dissect Ripley..or anything else. Like David's lab on Planet 4...Except we get to see the odd hatched monster attack villagers ( colonists) Prison population work also work...if they could only find a prison planet!
You would think they could have found alien DNA on fury 161?...The xeno/Runner ran around and touched many surfaces. Must have left some traces?
So maybe Patna did find something...it just wasn't controlled very well....( they grew something big and nasty and it ate them ) It'd make a cool novel or short story or an episode for the tv series.
I think that from the beginning you saw the alien more like a parasite that grew in the body of its host and where it absorbed nutrition from its host (not DNA). I think with Alien 3 we got the notion that it took on traits from its host, the xenomorph running on all fours e.g. That is, it absorbed DNA from its host.
The canon that an Alien takes traits from the host has been a thing since the first film.
And the USM not successfully separating DNA with Ripley was precisely my point.
I do prefer the look of the Original Aliens head however, and so yes a modern look based on the Smooth Head is the one i favor.
S.M.
They didn't separate alien DNA from the cloned Ripley either. The Queen, the drones and Ripley 8 were a blend of alien and human DNA.
The canon nowadays seems to be that the alien embryo takes on traits from the host. The alien aboard the Nostromo would therefore have a resemblance of Kane, just as the xenomorphs on the Auriga had traits (and memories) from Ripley (and she from the Queen).
Thanks chli, going to have to read that novel!
Right now the Alien universe seems really tiny! Just how many spacecraft are out there? What's the furthest human settlement ( if any ). With Star Trek I get a great sense of scale. Alien Universe not so much. I'd think a tv show would flesh it out. World building in movies is asking for trouble.
They didn't have to separate Alien DNA from Dolly the sheep.
Update
Marvel's Alien comics have been announced today for a March release. Guess we'll see how that goes.
Concerning the concept "bio-mechanical".
I think we have to decide what we are talking about:
* The aesthetics: It's just how they look
* A blend of biological and mechanical parts
* A blend of biology and machine
Most biological creatures have both biological and mechanical parts (bones). Also, humans blend with machines e.g. in hospitals (respirators, heart-lung machine, intravenous treatment, etc.)
If the Derelict is grown, and perhaps even the Space Jockey, I would say its biological - not bio-mechanical.
Well, first of all, we have a problem with David and the time span of 18 years since he created the xenomorph (unless we want to retcon). How can the derelict look ancient and the Space Jockey look fossilized?
Secondly, the rib cage does look like bones and not a suit. However, a trunk does not have any bones so if time has gone by, it would have disappeared. Unless we want to retcon, it's an Engineer who is the Space Jockey which is what Scott wanted to show us in Prometheus. The reason why the Engineers are smaller than the Space Jockey is probably just because it was easier to make Prometheus.
In my opinion, should the Space Jockey be something else, it would be a retcon (I don't mind that).
As a fan of both Prometheus and Covenant I just may admit that Isolation was my favorite Alien of the decade. I not too long ago finished 5th play through on nightmare difficulty lol. That was a challenge that felt like authentic Alien.
What I want from a story and characters is something Aliens Defiance. Now that was damn f@$&ing fine story. I highly recommend that comic. And it was about a colonial marine but wasn't a ridiculously action heavy story either. Defiance has been my role model for what a new Alien movie can be.
If people say Isolation was not scary, they likely watched a playthrough and never played it themselves. That was exhausting and I just wanted it to be over- sort of how Ellen may have felt. It was beautifully brutal.
The franchise can go different directions and be good. I would like to just see good characters dealing with the mythos. Kind of old school, but not getting into flute playing, axe grinding, and cabin building bull shit. GO BACK TO THE BASICS. I vomit a bit by typing this, but as BigDave once said, MAGA- Make Alien Great Again.
Well, David could have sent out an armada of ships full of eggs, but they can't have had Earth as a destination because in that case there would be no Earth when the crew of the Nostromo wakes up. Neither can there have been an evolution of the xenomorph (e.g. on a planet somewhere) because they would have been there for only a couple of years.
As for the 57-year time span between Alien and Aliens, there is the game Alien: Isolation and the novel by the same name. The USCSS Anesidora lands on LV-426 in 2137. Captain Marlow’s wife is facehugged and they bring her to Sevastopol Station. There, the xenomorph is born eventually leading to the destruction of the space station.
The interesting thing with this story is that they turn the beacon off which gives an explanation as to why W-Y hasn’t found the Derelict. It also explains why no others have been lured to LV-426. The trade route between Earth and Thedus was probably used extensively.
My 57 Years plot would start 6 months after Alien and involve Pavonis being a junior member of the team and being part of the second group to encounter the derelict on LV-426.
They wouldn't even get to the space jockey until season 2 (2123)
Series would be more about what happened in the 57 year span. No Ripley or Amanda references at all...except a Rip[ley mention on the Nostromo crew manifest.
Thanks BlackAnt!
I'd like to see the franchise move away from planet based action for a couple of films. Superstructures, Hyper Space Gateways, Dyson spheres.
Planets are just not claustrophobic IMHO. Almost always a place to hide or run away.
I understand planet based story is easy on the budget....but I think the green screen tech can handle a bizarre alien structures.
While I'm at I must add other Alien media is seemingly on the ropes. There have only been 3 major console Alien games in the past ten years, and 6 years since the last. We've only been given a few mobile offerings. I believe this is because Aliens Colonial Marines was a over hyped train wreck of a game, which lead to the excellent Alien Isolation to underperform. Yes Cold Iron is making a game but it's been known about for three years and we only occasionally get vague updates. I feel Alien is largely dead on the video game front.
Comics have been thriving but I also feel this is coming to end due to the transition from Dark Horse to Marvel. Dark Horse has been a steady home for Alien for 30 plus years. Marvel's talent pool seems more than a bit weak these days if their Star Wars comics are anything to go off of. Even the super heroes are at a weak point, the average Avengers issue only sells 400,000 copies a month. That may sound like a lot but it really isn't. I also can't forget that nasty business with Marvel tracing over existing art work for Star Wars, and it looks like its already happening with Alien. Check this Wolverine vs xenomorph and compare it to this Alien advertising image from Isolation. Marvel aren't what they once were and I think It'll possibly affect the novels as well. The Alien RPG along with merchandise such as Necca figures are what seems to keep Alien afloat at the moment.
Yes it's true the franchise is hanging in there (for now at least), There's only so long a franchise can depend on other media. Yes it's also true Alien has managed to release a movie every 5 or so years, but with continued diminished box office returns. I hate to keep making it all about the money, but ultimately that's what keeps any franchise rolling. As much as I like and care about 3 and Resurrection, they were cash in sequels that didn't draw the same crowds Alien and Aliens did. The AVP's in the 2000's were basically reboots before that concept became really popular. Again thanks to the dismal quality these films failed to invigorate either Alien or Predator. Both series have kept separate on the big screen in the past decade. Prometheus was a more blatant reboot because Fox insisted on rewrites to separate it from Alien. Remember the confusing advertising campaign? The whole is it a prequel or isn't it? Fox I think knew Alien had been sagging for quite some time and tried there hand at something new. And when that failed to impress (at least initially) it was back to Alien which yet again failed to make an impact.
Alien as a film is at a crossroads on where to go next. Will Ridley Scott make his third and apparently largely unassociated prequel? Does Blomkamp get his Alien 5? Or will it be Giler and Hill's treatment? Or does James Cameron back his own 3 concept much like he did Terminator Dark Fate? Or does Disney just straight up reboot? (what I think they'll do sadly) I dont think Alien's prospects as a film have ever been so uncertain. Will there be another movie? Most likely yes eventually. The real question is what will it be and how long will it take. But suffice to say a balls out action epic is not a likely approach.
Dolly, the sheep, was cloned from a cell taken from a grown-up sheep’s udder in 2003. So this technology was definitely available and most likely improved in 2179. So we have to come up with an explanation as to why they didn’t think of this until 200 years later.
The Patna (W-Y/Bishop) might not have needed to go back to LV-426 in search of the perfect organism. They might have found at least one facehugger on Fiorina 161 and Ripley’s blood sample. But why didn’t they do anything with these findings?
dk: The franchise will ultimately die. The only question is when, where and how. This is good a place as any to take our first steps to seeing the franchise continuing until then. The only question is how does it continue? Do you want it in the comfort of your own home streaming, or on your fucking knees in a crowded and dirty theater begging people to STFU and get off of their phones? I aint much for begging. Disney never gave me nothing worthwhile since I was four years old, so I say Fuck That company with this franchise! Let’s FIGHT IT!!!!
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