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No Alien Films On Disney+

We have been provided with updates from Fox, Disney rumors, and more rumors.  I have consumed this bread and am left wanting.

There are no Alien movies on Disney+ the last time it was checked and didn't realize that "in the vault" meant not on Disney+.  And, the Alien movies are available to buy/rent on other outlets.

Why can you rent it digitally and not have it in the Disney+ subscription?  

Wanting and pissed.  

Think about that.  Buy a subscription to Disney+, no Alien films but you can pay to watch them on cable and satellite outlets, rent on YouTube, Amazon...that sucks.  

Dead in the water is a compliment.  

The Disney strategy above is garbage for Alien fans unless you wish to pay elsewhere to watch Disney content.  

The Film franchise has been somewhat dead in the water during the past couple of years only to lift up for air for short periods of time with the release of novels, video games, and the short films.  

All very good but a bit chaotic in regards to where the films are headed.  The novels offer so many great stories to pull from for film.  Alien: Resurrection grew on me over time and was better to watch after reading the novelization.  A continuation from there or in an area in the other novels would be just fine for film.  

Really, anything would be just fine because we got squat now and the Disney+ strategy to send you elsewhere to watch an Alien film SUCKS.

It SUCKS!!!!

Thank you for all this support. I should have some concept art by this weekend.

Excellent concept you propose Insectoid comics.  

Thank you for sharing with us and many will certainly look forward to any updates on your progress.

MonsterZero, good stuff (as always).

(:

easily fixed..remove any weyland yutani egg/goo stuff. 

Make it a crew of androids and they bring it back to a space station or Earth/colony. They don't know any better...they are just trying to help humanity.

So to Continue.. Gavin...

This is exactly the points that you had given...

It could be more HARDER to Rescue the Prequels than to just IGNORE  them.... a FIX could be to Reboot Alien Covenant.... but then they would think its Easier to just IGNORE the both of them.

How many people who saw or would see the Prequels and Alien Franchise who were NOT Born prior to say 1986.. how many of those would be DISAPPOINTED if the Prequels became something that Disney would want us to Pretend that never happened?

These Generations that they can Market and Make more Money out of as far as to EXPLORE and Evolve the Franchise, and the Generations Prior who were around when ALIENS came out or ALIEN, i would say a Higher % would not be as Displeased if the Prequels were THROWN into the None-Canon Bin..... if the other Option would be Swallow the Hard Pill that Alien Covenant had delivered.

HOWEVER....................

This does not mean any NEW Movies should be Confined to BUG WARS... although there is a Market for that, you can STRAY a little away from the QUEEN, and Eggs especially as far as Aesthetically similar to what we had in the Franchise.

So you can Evolve and Change the Beast, you dont have to have it that there are these Eggs, with These Arachnid looking Face Vaginas and they are Laid by Queens and Produce our Xenomorph's we have seen all Too Often.

*Did they Originate from someplace else or Process (which is what the Prequels attempted to do).

Or do we go and take them as a Ancient Alien Organism and look at WHY would some People want to OBTAIN them and Question is this similar to what the Space Jockey had attempted to their DOWN-FALL.

Because the QUEEN ==> Egg Formula

Then the IF we can obtain Eggs and we use them to Destroy/Kill People we want to Get Rid Of, just as we could do with Chemical Weapons...  then i feel THIS route is LIMITED and Eventually would get STALE..

Unless you like to see Aesthetically the Xenomorph going around Laying Eggs, Face Hugging Chest Bursting and Killing Folk and then seeing them POPPED off by Marine Types or Heroine/Hero....

There is only so much of this and so much Run, Hide and Shoot that can be done.....

It would have to be about the Back Ground Plot and Agenda more than the ALIEN or MARINES... it would require GOOD CHARACTERS...

But more so..... it would be about WHO/WHY would someone want to go after such a Horrific Organism, to what END and what Agenda (which has been done) and so then its more so about WHAT happens if they Succeed? And what else can they use the Organism for?

Alien Resurrection kind of indicated this, and it appears Blomkamps Alien 5 also may have tackled similar.

Because i feel you cant go around and have it that Eventually the Company/Humanity manage to find a way to Extract and Store the Xenomorph Safely.... then WAIT to use them as a Eradication Tool on any Enemy or Threat they would want to use them on... instead of NUKE/BOMB them!

Then show them use them as such and it gets out of HAND or that they suffer a Outbreak while trying to do this... as this has been COVERED over and over really... well also as well as Failed Attempts to Obtain the Organism...

You can go a FEW more Rounds with such... but then you have to Freshen it up...

The other OPTION would be a Revelation that the Xenomorphs themselves can EVOLVE to be able to Traverse Space and Build Stuff.... or Reveal that their Creators can do this and Introduce them..... but this is what the Prequels attempted to do...

And to revel the Space Jockey as a Slave to a Different Race or a Different Race Entirely (reboot Engineers) may offer as many PIT-FALLS as the Prequels Faced.

Likewise to explore the Origins of the Xenomorph as a Race that could Build and Create Ships that can then become a Threat to Humanity, could be making them more so a STARSHIP TROOPERS like Explanation.

PAST IS THE PAST.... it should not be touched upon.... left alone!

After we go a Few more Rounds of the same old, same old, we need to look at what becomes of WHEN someone decides to Experiment on those Eggs beyond using them as they are... or a Event that causes those Eggs/Organisms to Evolve, or even some Mutation of them or Infected Hosts.

Ripley 8 and the Clones was a Good Start.

In CLOSING....

The Franchise does-not have to be about Ripleys, be it Ellen Ripley, Amanda Ripley, or say Amanda's Off-Spring or any other relation.

But i do think again these kind of Connections is WHAT it is that Disney would GO FOR!

I think we would just be in store for... Ripley, Queen and Eggs...  Lets Hope that Disney prove me WRONG!

I think you raise Great Points Gavin......

I mean NO Disrespect by this, but there is a Large Fandom of ALIEN Fans who are more into the Popcorn Canon Fodder Xenomorph Aspect that is seen in ALIENS and Alien Resurrection and a Majority of the Games, Comics and Movies.

Aliens, Guns, Run and Shoot and Hide with Bigger Alien or Queen revealed and a Hero/Heroine Saves the Day are what i think a lot of those who enjoy and would associate the ALIEN Franchise with.

I respect Ridley Scott for trying something different, as the BEAST was kind of Cooked... but Sadly its a FACT that the Franchise is more Associated with the ALIENS and Various Comics and Video Games adaption of the Xenomorph and the Action Style, and so going for a Prequel Project that would NOT be about the Beast or Explain its Origins was a BANE of contention for Fans who would have expected in PART these to be Answered.

Ridley Scott wanted to go deeper than this, he felt the Space Jockey Race was the way to go, and also there were other Important Aspects of the Franchise that had not been covered in Depth, such as A.I and the Company History and Agenda....

Sadly Prometheus became something that was a bit too FAR Disconnected to what a Majority of People would have seen that a ALIEN Franchise was about, and while the Prequels was attempted to tackle the Space Jockey and Steer Away from the Xenomorph and ALIEN... a lot of Fans would have felt the Franchise had to be about the BEAST....

That then lead us to the PICKLE that was Alien Covenant... that seemed to KILL of the Aspect of Exploring our Engineers Deeper and the Proxy to get those Answers (Dr Shaw), it decided to give us a Xenomorph Origins by a MAD Robot and Force the Origins to appear to be something that was NEVER there say 25 Years prior to the Events of ALIEN.

While some Fans may have liked the Prequels and some of those are NOT a Fan of the Cook the Beast Popcorn Formula, i think even those Fans would agree that Alien Covenant was a Mistake!

They have Dangled the Creation Carrot of the Xenomorph to the Fans, a Carrot that the Fans are not keen on, and so a Continuation of this route would DISPLEASE most Fans... a Sequel that would NOT be about the Xenomorph but would be about A.I and what ever Creative Shenanigans that David gets up to would NOT interest as many Fans.

A Majority of Fans would hope the Sequel would NOT be solely about David or even bypass him, and that the Sequel would introduce us to the Xenomorph and SHOW that it is NOT something that had existed for THOUSANDS of years and NOT a Creation by David....

Then some Fans would have wanted to see our ENGINEERS but i am not sure Most would want to see a DEEP History about them, or see Scenes like those Engineers in Alien Covenant, they would likely be wanting to see the Prometheus Engineers back who will just KICK ASS and not take NAMES!

Some Fans would want a Revelation that those Engineers are working for something more ALIEN and some Fans would plain ans Simple just WISH the Engineers never existed.

What i am saying is the Franchise Past ALIEN had evolved really into a Parasitic Organism that would become a Invasive Species, and that this would be something that other Species (Space Jockey, Humans) could use to their Advantage as a Biological Weapon..... but Ultimately at their Hubris.

So i feel most of the People who know what the ALIEN is would associate it with ALIENS and the Comics, Games and so the Route that RS was taking to Explore the Space Jockey is something that they would NOT really be 100% into or care about in Comparison to the Xenomorph itself.

I think its proved that this should have been kept a MYSTERY.

So i would say a Higher % of Fans would preferred something thats more like Novels, Comics and Games over exploring the Race Behind the Space Jockey, regardless of how ALIEN they made it.... the Majority of Fans would want to have the Xenomorph playing a Larger Role.

And so i think that SADLY that YES the Engineers Plot Idea is DEAD IN THE WATER..

Disney would know what most people and especially Fans would associate the Franchise with, and they would also want to Re-Introduce the Franchise to a Newer Generation where they can EXPAND that Franchise.... which we see done in Novels, Games and Comics...

I feel Disney would want to Expand it to TV and maybe Movies but they would cater for the Newer Generation who would prefer such more Action Popcorn Horror, than anything that is Deep Thinking or Thought Provoking and  also such a Move would please the Die-Hard Aliens Fans....

Disney have to think about the  MAJORITY as this is what makes MONEY and this is what Disney are in it for.

I plan to have it not set in the Alien universe. However I like your idea. Thanks. I do like the idea of a hybrid creature. Perhaps a crew member is bitten by a creature and begins to mutate.

Sounds great!

This could be a plot for issue #1:

Weyland yutani mining ship. Crew of 8 (9 including a synthetic) operate drones to mine asteroids.

They find a derelict juggernaut among an asteroid belt(around a gas giant). They send drones inside to explore…...they find canisters(Prometheus style urns filled with black goo ) they return one to the quarantine airlock aboard the ship. The crew debates what to do. While they are arguing the onboard synth camly violates quarantine and enters the airlock….it drinks the contents of the vial(most secure location it can think off). The synth starts killing the crew. The lone survivor escapes in a life boat/pod. The synth sends drones to kamikaze the boat. The life pod is destroyed and the synth thinking it’s occupant dead(or soon will be), leaves the system at warp drive.

The survivor has escaped the life pod before it was destroyed...he/she makes its way to the alien derelict...

If I was a gambling man, which I'm not because it's a fool's game, my money would be that Neill Blomkamp's Alien Awakening is likely back in contention.

Of late, there have been certain movies trending that have been revisionist sequels such as Halloween and Terminator: Dark Fate.

Then there is also the fact that Disney have lately been contracting other production companies to make them money, such as Pixar, Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm.

But most interestingly is the timing. Neill released his concept art and got the fans excited about his project, similar to what Tim Miller did with the Deadpool test footage way back when. As a result, Fox seriously considered the prospect, with Ridley Scott even saying he would produce the movie after the release of Alien: Covenant. But then Scott and Fox cock-blocked Blomkamp's movie, with Scott throwing shade saying there was no script (despite both Sigourney Weaver and James Cameron claiming otherwise) before taking the name of Blomkamp's movie as his own for the, in dead water sequel to Alien: Covenant...

But this was all before Disney grabbed Fox. Though many of us would argue that the ship has sailed there is no denying that Ripley is an icon and an icon that aligns with ceratin 'trending' agendas. Then there is the popularity of James Camerons Aliens. And then finally is the fact that now that Disney own Fox that Neill is no longer attached to RoboCop Returns, but has not announced as to why.

do you also think they would instead Continue with a ALIEN Franchise Movie Series that is set after the events of ALIEN

It's tough to see Disney deal with Scott's prequels. I can see three possibilities.

1. Continue after Resurrection. Give a brief rundown of the Quadrilogy and then continue on Earth with Call finding a WY lab somewhere. Ripley 8 would rapidly mutate and die, so no more Ripley. Call would start digging around WY and things would unfold from there.

2. Give a brief rundown of Alien and Aliens and basically continue with Alien 5 or Isolation.

3. Give a brief rundown of Alien-Alien 3 and continue with the prisoner (forgot the name) who was dragged away by the goons near the end of A3.

This might get more visibility on the Alien Covenant Forum.

This is an interesting idea but I have no ideas at this time. There are some heavy hitters on the AC forums though!

EDIT- Oops! I see it is on the AC Forum.

Have fun with that, and I wish you the best of luck! 

I remember I made a fan comic about Godzilla.

MonsterZero you raise some Good Points...

A Movie does work with Good Characters, and often any Sequel works best if at least ONE of the Characters Return.

With Prometheus some did have some Problems with Noomi Rapace and her Dr Shaw Character, but some Felt that she should have played a ROLL in the Sequel.

Instead of looking at WHAT was so wrong with the Character and attempt to FIX it in a Sequel.....

They now face the same Problem with Katherine Waterston's Character  Daniels she just never had the Impact and so if they Drop Her... then how can they keep introducing New Characters and get them to work.

They (Disney) will face the same Problem with any ALIEN Movie they make, they would have to introduce New Characters that work well, and then it would be expected a additional Movie would connect and Cary Over at least ONE of the New Characters.

With Disney they may also think its best to PLAY IT SAFE and introduce a Character the Fanbase has knowledge of, be that Amanda Ripley, or some Character Related to one of those from the first TWO Movies.... or even BRING BACK our Ripley and basically a SOFT Re-boot where only ALIEN and ALIENS are Canon..

Much like Blomkamps Alien 5, and so i do feel/fear that this is a more likely Root they would take....... and therefor we would get similar to what happened with James Camerons's Latest Offering Terminator: Dark Fate

Basically go back to Characters we are Familiar from the First Two Movies.

I certainly feel the same Unfortunately.

The Prequels had Polarized the Fan-base a little too much.

I do feel any continuation would likely be a SET-AFTER what ever Ridley Scott had planned.... so what we had was...

Prometheus ==>(events of Crossing)==>Alien Covenant

Then we would SKIP past Alien Covenant 2 and arrive at a Direct Prequel or TWO that take us to ALIEN.

Where maybe the Returning Engineers will be the Aggressive SOB's from Prometheus who would ask LESS Questions than the Predators.... or maybe they would introduce another Race Entirely.

But then i think its more likely we would NOT get any Continuation but either ALIEN Movies that would be SET after ALIEN but would Totally Contradict and THUS remove the Prequels from Canon....

Or maybe in 10 Years for the 50th Anniversary a Complete ALIEN Prequel Reboot... that may not even be anything CLOSE to what Prometheus was (Engineers, Human Visitation/Chariots of the Gods).

I think it is likely dead in the water for the foreseeable future. I could see Disney making a reboot in its own image down the road after they milk their other acquisitions dry. They may also hope old fans will forget, move on and not notice their revisionist movies.

I'd say it's more about heroes with Disney. 

The main reason I loved Predator was because of the characters not the creature...I wanted to see more of Dutch. Predator2 was a non starter for me because no Arnold. 

Xenomorph is near the bottom of my list of things I want to see in an 'alien' movie...I want strong characters.

What movies star is going to want to play a Engineer?...no I think they will jettison the Engineers.

Unless a big director or well known actor wants to do their take?...then I'd say we are dead in the water.

Meh- it looks like a Xeno with a color filter. A green or blue Xeno would look good too. It is a great looking piece- I just agree that it was done more for fun.

"I think the comic was boring heavy on the Cameron's Bug Hive idea"

I cant Edit my Post...... i meant to say Borrowing not Boring ;)

I do however think potentially exploring a Red Xenomorph, well a Variant thats more Red could be interesting.

Especially when we look at some of the Drafts that William  Gibson had done for Alien 3, regarding the Union of Progressive Peoples Faction, which had a Very Soviet Vibe to them...

So we could add that to some ideas that Blomkamps Alien 5 seemed to have, in that you could have a Company Obtain the Xenomorph but then have another Faction obtain a Specimen or DNA and Engineer their own Version that is RED to kind of represent like the Cold War Vibe that Gibsons Alien 3 Drafts had.

However it also be that this was done for Fun.. and is NOT in anyway connected to any Project/Concept that he was working on as far as any ALIEN Movie.

I think the comic was boring heavy on the Cameron's Bug Hive idea, where the Xenomorphs act just like Ant/Bee or Termite Colonies.    In which case then conflict with Rival Hives/Colonies would be likely.... i am NOT the biggest Fan of this kind of take/look at the Xenomorph though.

Regarding the work that Carlos Huante has released, then it merely is one of his ULTRAMORPH concepts for the Alien Prequel (Alien Engineers/Genesis) by Jon Spaights that evolved into Prometheus (after Damon Lindeloff's involvement).  

So we just have the Ultramorph given a Red Color instead of the Grayish Blue...

However forgive me if i am incorrect, but there was reports that one of the Alien 5 drafts/ideas was called Red Harvest?  It would appear that this Concept Work was for that Canceled Alien 4 Project.

If so then the release of a RED Version of his Ultramorph Concept could indicate a Creation of a Red Variant/Faction of the Xenomorph and so IN PART maybe Alien 5 would have borrowed a little off the Aliens: Genocide Comic.

I can't say for sure, but I'm betting he did this for fun, and not for alien 5.  I say this because he commented on my genocide youtube video a few weeks back, kinda poking fun at all the EU alien stuff.  He thought they were from a kenner toy, which did have a red alien too.  I said I enjoy the EU as its own seperate thing, and after we spoke, he uploaded the red ultramorph pics!  You can find his comments on my video, and he's going to do an interview with me for the channel!  I'm sooo excited!

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Back to the OT...

I think while we could have had a Alien 5 take place on the Sulaco where then Ripley loses her Memory a bit because she gets Face Hugged, and Newt and Hicks Die... may sound like a work around....

There really is a Short Window of Time that a Movie would take Place in, and also being set just on the Sulaco could be limiting..

HOWEVER....

Blomkamp had some Interesting Ideas with his Alien 5 Project and Originally it never had Ripley, Newt or Hicks in it.

And so i think that a Blomkamps Alien 5 Idea could still work and should be looked at again, but as a Sequel to Alien 3 that is set some Time After, be it 5 years, 10 years, or 25 years...

We could get a Alien 5 and 6 if you would that would be set before Alien Resurrection where the Conclusion would show us WHY the Company would not get its hands on the Xenomorph until Hundreds of Years latter with USM and the Cloning of Ripley.

So the IDEA could work..... only they would have to DROP the Old Gang... (Ripley, Newt and Hicks).

They could instead introduce Amanda Ripley.... have it that she has been in Cryo-Sleep for Many Years, and that the Photo that was shown to Ripley in Aliens was a FAKE as the Company Covered Up what Amanda Ripley had really been up to (her time with Alien Isolation and any Follow On Stories).

Upon Discovery of Amanda... she could be informed the Xenomorph threat is GONE with the Destruction of Hadleys Hope... but she could then inform those who recovery her that the Xenomorph threat would NOT be Eradicated by the Destruction of Hadleys Hope and that the Entire Planet (or another that has Eggs) would have to be Destroyed..

This Information could then be used by a Company who then Obtain the Derelict or another such Ship...

The Plot then Unfolds like what ever Plans that Blomkamp had, but we replace Ellen Ripley with Amanda Ripley and replace Hicks with another Male Protagonist.

I only Vaguely Read Two of the other Alien 3 Drafts, quite some time ago...

Never Read the Gibson ones.....

So i had only a Quick Look at them, and they do have some Interesting Elements that have surely Influenced some of the Later Novels but also Movies which include the PREQUELS and also Alien Resurrection.

There is a Wealth of Ideas from the Various Discarded Alien 3 Projects, that have been used in later Movies, and i think its Possible that some other Elements could also be explored in Future.... well Potentially.

Roughly looking at Gibsons Drafts i feel that somewhere between those with Some Changes could have gave us the more IDEAL sequel to ALIENS..

Regarding what we got... Alien 3 has Flaws but it is a Film that has Grown on me as i AGE.... when it first came out i was a Little Disappointed... but then i thought ALIENS was AWESOME... but over time that Movie has become more Popcorn Action...

I know a number of Fans are Disappointed at how Alien 3 had Killed Off the Gang!  But during the Process of making a Sequel things do change, and depending on IF they feel certain CAST would return then this Impacts the Story they have to Write...

Also we had to consider the AGE of the Characters... so with Newt we would have had Carrie Henn who would have been 14 coming 15 to play a 6.5 Year Old Newt.

So having her in the Movie would have required them to Cast another Young Actress who would pass off as a 7 Year Old Girl.

They could have given us a PLOT set a year or so after Aliens where Newt made it to Earth etc, the Company are then up to NO GOOD again... and Ripley and Hicks turn up to STOP THEM... (which seems very similar to Blomkamps Alien 5)

But certainly as far as Hicks goes i cant see WHY they had KILLED his Character Off....

Having Hicks being alive would have added to Alien 3, he and Ripley could have Bonded and Shared the Loss of Newt....

They could have Revealed that they had SEX prior to Cryo-Sleep, or they did-so in Alien 3 after they had embraced each other after the Loss of Newt..

A Revelation that Ripley is Carrying a Queen as well as being Pregnant would have added more Drama/Emotion to the Movie.... 

Especially in Light of the Sacrifice at the END...

And it could have then left the DOOR OPEN for Hicks to Return in a ALIEN 4 (as Miss Weaver wanted Killing Off anyway).

Nice Topic... i am sure it deserves many a Debate.

Dont get me Wrong, i dont mean to Dampen the Ideas...

Aesthetically yes there are some similarities but thats where it STOPS....

What i was looking at with my previous reply is that there was UNUSED ideas and Concepts, that could have introduced us to things in the ALIEN Franchise that were VERY Alien looking, compared to the Exploration of the Engineers especially in terms of Alien Covenant.

If we look back at PROMETHEUS and we ignore the Deleted Scenes of the Elders...  then we dont really see the Occupants of the Teardrop/Pebble Ship.  We get the indication that this SHIP is what drops off the Engineer to perform his Sacrifice to Seed Life on a World...  but we dont see who is on the Ship....

More Engineers? (as Deleted Scene indicated) is the Ship Automated? or could we had Speculated that some other Race/Species is on the Ship that is FAR more Alien Looking and Lovecraftian?

Alien Covenant kind of reduces such Speculation but it does-not mean in Context to the ALIEN Franchise that something more Alien Looking could not be Introduced like what we saw in ARRIVAL....

But thats NOT to say the Franchises are or ever would be Connected.

 dk - The video uses the comic as evidence, but crops out a large chunk ripped out of Anne's head in one comic panel that would instantly torpedo his point.  It also completely glosses over the different hair colours of the women - and I think it never makes mention of them being two different actresses.

It's typical of the lazy click-bait drivel from Alien Theory (when he's not just reading out things other people have written).

Interesting.

UNFORTUNATELY...... there is NO connection between the Movies.

Aesthetically the Ships are similar but up close they are also Quite Different.  I can see the reference made about the ALIEN from ARRIVAL and the Trilobite from Prometheus.....  however the Aliens in Arrival you dont really see them fully.

Here is the Concept Art by Carlos Huante for the Movie ARRIVAL

In the Movie we only get a Short Glimpse of them (Heptapods) Full Shot.

However....... here is where it could have been Interesting as far as Connected with Aesthetically Similar Alien Species but NOT in anyway actually Connected.

There was another Concept Work for one of the Alien Prequels that as similar to the Arrival Heptapods Concept but i cant seem to come across it.

But here is ONE of the Engineer (Whale) Concepts for Prometheus.

You can Slightly see some resemblance to the Heptapods from Arrival.

Here are some other Heptapod Concepts that are Similar to some of the Neomorph Concepts for Alien Covenant but also Trilobite for Prometheus.

The TOP Concept for the Heptapod (3rd Image Above) is Very Very Similar to a Earlier Concept of a Spore/Face Hugger from Alien Engineers Draft (early Prometheus story)

EDIT...  Found the other Concept for Prometheus that i was on about that looks like the Aliens (Heptapod) in Arrival.

So depending on WHICH of the Concepts from the Alien Prequel and Arrival then we could have had TWO very similar looking Movies Aesthetically...

But that does not mean they are ever intended to be connected...  i think what my Reply does show is that some Ideas for the Alien Prequels could have given us something more Lovecraftian than we GOT or indeed what we had the the Original Franchise.

 The ships do look similar and I can sort of see the creature comparison. That is an interesting observation! 

Arrival and then Prometheus:

I have JUST seen Prometheus, and you know what? The Arrivals' Heptopods do look uncannily like the thing that was "born" to the lady in Prometheus, the Facehugger, but then that birthed Alien(?). Plus they have the same ship in both films...
So, in many many moons into the future the Prometheus' Heptopods (Facehuggers) have evolved into the Arrivals Heptopods, maybe. It makes so much sense in so many ways, I hope to God that this be the plot to future films.

I think it is very good, I understand the difficulty in it, because I am very bad at this, driving directions

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Nice to Point that out Ingeniero

With these Earlier Drafts the Aurora that Lope was talking about was a Force Field that radiated from the North/South Poles of the Planet... as some kind of Protective Field for the ENTIRE Planet that Prevented any Ships from Leaving...

These were Created by Engineer like Space Constructions that the Covenant Ship destroyed that then Disabled the Force Field and Enabled the Rescue attempt by Tennessee.

This Force Field however was NOT used in the Movie, but we could Speculate that the Bombardment Scene had taken that idea and applied it to a more SMALLER and Local Protective DOME Force Field.

You would kind of have to look at it from their POV... surely the Engineers would have some Security/Protection Measures.

I think they are a Arrogant and Naive Species who likely go and Visit Other Worlds but Insure they are NEVER given Advanced Knowledge to be able to achieve even what we on Earth have in the 20th Century  and so they likely had means to Quell any Species that they deem were Advancing too FAR...

Or more likely and in the case of Earth... they maybe felt that WHEN they abandoned us, then we would likely go back to mere Cavemen than EVER advance to Explore Space....

This Naive Act had proved to be a HUBRIS and their Downfall on Planet 4.... they also may have been so Naive as to think that NONE of their OWN kind would ever Return to USE the Biological Warfare on their own kind.

Hence the Defenses were NOT prepared/good enough for a BLACK-GOO Bombardment, or they was NOT aware of what the Experiments etc on LV-223 had become!

Certainly Ignorant Guy ;)

Going back to the TIME of Prometheus and Concept Stages, (Originally we had Centipede Creatures) but looking at the Black Goo it seemed to Evolve Certain Organisms where it would Maintain some of the Organisms Traits but then Replace others with some other Organisms Traits... 

Some of the Concepts for Prometheus and prior (Alien Engineers) had indicated Organisms with a Atheistic/Traits of Mollusca Organisms, The Trilobite Certainly having Quite a lot of that Aesthetic, but also this is how the Face Hugger Stage of STARBEAST was also described.

At that Time we could Ponder or be Drawn to Speculate that the Black Goo had traced its Origins to some Organism that had Characteristics of a Mollusca that for Some Reason the Engineers saw something with this Organisms to Invest in Re-Engineering and Experimenting with them.

Sorry Chli for this reply being OFF-TOPIC.

However... as i said before, and this is in Regards to Speculation and Broader Exploration of any Genetic Memory concerning the Xenomorph.

I think a lot of Fans expected the Franchise to be explored in a more ALIEN and Lovecraftian way than what we got... And while a bit OFF-TOPIC and especially in Context to the Idea/Story that Michelle was exploring.

I think that some Lovecraftian Elements should be Explored, i think going back to the Starbeast should be Explored, and so if the Starbeast was Explored as a more Lovecraftian/Mollusk like Species that had a Parasitical Procreation where say they can PASS-ON some Genetic Memory with their Procreation, then this would make this Species being able to IN EFFECT be able to be Re-Incarnated. 

The Original Idea of Jon Spaights which i explored here THE ENGINEERS: THE VERGE OF GODHEAD

Had shown the Engineers were TRYING to gain some kind of Immortality, but in this idea it was to attempt to By-Pass a Physical Form  here is roughly what that idea was "The Engineers believe themselves to be on the verge of a Great Transcendence in which they will abandon their physical form and flight into the ten-dimensional multiverse as Creatures of pure energy"

This was NEVER really Explored in the Prequels, However when trying to make a Connection and looking at STARBEAST then if the Starbeast Organism has a Procreation where they could PASS-ON their Memories and become Re-incarnated then this would be some kind of Immortality

Surely this would be something a Ancient Race of would be wanna be Gods would be interested in, in a attempt to gain some kind of Re-Incarnation... so that would give a Good Reason for their Experiments.

This could work with Michelle's idea of this being Unintended for the use of Mankind and maybe the Engineers and so that if a Starbeast was Explored then it could be that NO-MATTER how they try, the Engineers could ONLY produce Organisms with the Parasitic Life-Cycle and NEVER gain the Genetic Memory, or that the Starbeast Spores could ONLY pass this onto a Certain Host Organism and so any Organism like Humanoids would instead be DEALT a Curse instead...

Funny enough some 250+ Years after ALIEN the USM Company manage to Clone/Obtain a Xenomorph from Ripley DNA....  but HOWEVER... it is the Ripley Clone with MIXED DNA that had Gifted Genetic Memory which we can attribute to the Xenomorph DNA.

So in this IDEA... then Ironically Ripley 8 has become what the Engineers maybe had attempted to Achieve?

This of-course is just to Speculate how we could FIT in a Deeper Connection to Genetic Memory and the Xenomorph, it is in No-Way to suggest this was ever the Plan.

I think it really depends on what we CONSIDER as Canon as every Comic and Novel are not really Consistent with every detail.

The Video raises a Good Point regarding the LACK of Human Bodies on Hadleys Hope and so we can Safely Assume that Bodies where taken to the HIVE even if Dead for some Purpose or Another.

Which would mean we can ONLY Speculate on that Purpose, because we have in the Movies Especially been shown they NEED a Living Host to Gestate a Xenomorph.....

There is a LOT that we dont really know about the Xenomorph, there are Aspects that are Explored from Comic, Game and Novel that do-not Match.... by that i mean that ONE Media Format could explain a Certain Aspect of the Xenomorph in ONE way while another could tackle that same Aspect in a Entirely Different way.

I would think it would be FITTING and Gruesome if the Xenomorph Hive or Xenomorphs themselves can Affect a Corpse so that it Dissolves and Mutates to become part of the Hive Construction.... Imagine some Processes similar to the Deleted EGG MORPH scene from ALIEN.

I think that would be Interesting to Explore and Especially in a Future Movie or TV Series.

S.M Please elaborate.

As Newt said, 'They're dead, they're all dead.'

That video is typical Alien Theory rubbish.

Is this in Star Wars series? 

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