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dkAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

Do companies still make movies to satisfy all the updating JC talked theaters into doing in the early OOs? Back when 3D was going to be the next big thing since.................the red and blue lens 60s/70s?

Merlin is sounding REALLY good right now.

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setaverdeAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

Avatar had success, because it was something new. Now, after all This time, it's a big risk to do  five movies in a row. Money is important but it isn't everything. I bet we are going to see an expanded shitty universe in the new Avatar films. X-men meets jurassic Park + titanic + abyss. God saves us all from the blue giants flying dinosaurs, with mnemonic powers. I prefer One minute of alien covenant, with all its flaws, than 5 hours of dances with wolves , where the apaches are blue giants.

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

BigDave we have to be clear what egg morphing is. 

If the adult xenomorph will implant a facehugger embryo into the body of the host and that facehugger will grow inside what has become an egg, waiting for mother really, we can assume the second victim will be the host for the chestburster. Probably one adult xenomorph is capable of a very limited number of egg morphing. If it was a bio weapon that would be a safeguard against having the xenomorphs multiply at a fast and uncontrollable rate.

So if we assume the xenomorph from Alien had one or two embryos only, it is understandable why he killed the rest of the crew. It would have killed Ripley too, but the script was changed.

But can the egg morphing be kind of a shortcut to its life cycle? Can he implant into the host directly the embryo of the chestburster? He could not do this without immobilizing the host, I can imagine a chestburster out of Dallas and Brett, without the interference of an additional facehugger. And in this case the adult xenomorph would act like the parasitoid wasp itself.

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant ForumHapy Mothers' Day

You heard mommy, stop stealing her fishnets!

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SuperAlienAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

Is there any mention of a film named Merlin on that release schedule?

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dkAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

Avatar has cute bug eye characters that kids probably love along with love/romance/angst (and those consum.....er.....kids can grow with the series!!!) As long as it is cute and semi cartoon looking, all is good.

It seems things are geared to kids. Fine- but guess who buys the tickets and F$$king overpriced snacks for those kids? 

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ChrisAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

Yeah.. I don't see people staying interested in Avatar for the next 8 years, but who knows...

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

"what Alien did with Dallas? He looks even more terrific than Brett-egg!"

It was one of TWO options...  They was BOTH being turned into EGGS which would then require a Host Each, or Brett was becoming the EGG and Dallas was Cocooned to be used as the HOST.

Lets try and make some SENSE of it all...

 WHY would the Xenomomorph only want/need TWO of the Crew?  surely if the Xenomorph also had Lambert and Parker then he would be left with the TWO options.

1) Four EGGS waiting for a Host, so the Nostromo would have 4 Eggs, and a Xenomorph awaiting for whoever came across the Ship.... we could have 5 Eggs if the Xenomorph managed to get to Ripley.

2) We would have TWO Eggs and TWO Hosts, so the o the Nostromo would have 3 Xenomorph's awaiting for whoever came across the Ship.... we could have another Egg if the Xenomorph managed to get to Ripley.

But the Xenomorph only had TWO of the Crew, did the Xenomorph need the others for FOOD?  or did it ONLY require TWO Victims?

I had came to this conclusion NEXT a long long time ago...  the Logical way that the Deleted Scene made SENSE... would be IF this was the route to a QUEEN.

Egg Morph = Queen, then the Nostromo would have ONE Xenomorph and ONE Queen and then knows how many Eggs awaiting for someone to come aboard the Ship.   This i felt was the best way to explain what the Egg Morph would have done...

But this would NOT be the case as we can see from ALIEN 3

And so we still have to WONDER what was the Purpose of the Egg Morph, and WHY only use TWO of the Crew

So again i think another explanation  could be as Gavin Pointed out that there are Variants of the Xenomorph in the Cargo Hold.

When looking at Prometheus and the Alien Engineers Draft, i think this Became the Most Logical Solution....  But with Alien Covenant things could turn out to be different as far as HOW we get Thousands of Eggs and IF we see a Queen.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

"I guess you have to ask the producers who wanted Ripley alive, the last survivor of the Nostromo."

Precisely it was Necessary for the Plot for her to Survive and this applies to WHY it was that Newt Survived, she was also the Plot Device to how we got to see the Queen.

It would have been interesting if Ridley Scotts idea of Ripley being killed off and the Xenomorph imitated her voice PLOT, where would this had left a Sequel?  Maybe it would have been a bit like AVATAR lol

Regarding some of the Plot that would have had to lead to ALIENS...

While we have not 100% Evidence (in the Movie) i think we could ASSUME that the Jordon's Rover had Traveled for at LEAST a Hour, I dont think it was a quick 20-30 Min Drive, and looking at the Rover it appeared to only be doing say 20KMPH.   I think we could safely assume that the Derelict would have been located at least 20KM from Hadleys Hope (Maybe for Plot Convenience of the 30KM Blast Radius at its Destruction)

I cant see the Jordon's Xenomorph taking Host after Host all that FAR to the Derelict,  or go to the Derelict and bring back EGGS.

Which maybe leaves TWO Options for the Outbreak!

1) The Colony send some people down to Investigate the Derelict, maybe to Destroy those Eggs but a number get infected which would leave enough Xenomorphs to then Overrun the Colony.   By the Time Mr Jordon's Chest Buster makes its appearance,  those who went to the Derelict would have been infected!

2) Mr Jordon's Chest Buster scurries away, Grows, and obtains a Few Hosts and Finds some place to Egg Morph them and Create the QUEEN!  Which then is able to Lay Enough Eggs to allow for a Infestation.

Thats the TWO explanations i can logically come up with for HOW a Infestation could have came about.

But we have to Bare in Mind the Face Huggers, we can assume these are ONLY activated with close Proximity to the Eggs, so thats something else to Consider...

As its Pretty Stupid to Store a number of those if they are AWARE of the Xenomorph as far as ADULT... it maybe would not be so bad if they saw the Chest Buster and thought this is about as BIG as they would GROW.

Could the Xenomorph (Mr Jordon's) have gone and collected a few Face Huggers and taken them to Hadleys Hope?  I find this UNLIKELY.

Maybe some others went to Investigate what happened to Mr Jordon, Got Infected, was brought back.... this accounts for some of the Dead Face Huggers and the ALIVE ones, maybe they had prevented them from infecting by Acting Early Enough.

Alien Covenant kinda bums out that idea, due to the Quick Gestation and How Little time a Face Hugger needs to be on the FACE (but thats just one of the Flaws of AC).

I think such things that are needed for Plot Convenience are NEVER thought out, as they just dont care to put much detail into such things as most would not Question them.   So thats similar to HOW the Xenomorph in Alien Managed to Hide the Body's of Dallas and Brett, it does not matter.

 

 

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KongzillaAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

Original Egg > Facehugger > Xenomorph > Eggmorphing > Royal Facehugger > Queen > Egg Laying.

 

Eggmorhing, no doubt, more scarier and alieny process. But I always wondered - what Alien did with Dallas? He looks even more terrific than Brett-egg!

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GavinAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

Here some food for thought...

#1 - James Cameron gets the blames for introducing the Queen and insect lifecycle to the Alien. But is he completely to blame.

Production for The Terminator was delayed because of Arnold Schwarzenegger's prior commitment to Conan The Destroyer. Cameron used this time to pen the script for Rambo: First Blood II and refine The Terminator's script. Cameron also met with David Giler (and Walter Hill) to discuss ideas for what would become Aliens. From this meeting, Cameron then penned the script for Aliens and developing the concept for the Queen. The question is this... did Giler tell Cameron about the deleted egg morphing scene?

Considering that Giler clashed with Fox executives and even sued Fox prior to Aliens being greenlit any possibility for a Ridley Scott Alien 2 (Scott instead worked on Blade Runner) went down the pan. Together with Giler's rewriting of Dan O'Bannon's script, and that during the production of Alien many of O'bannon's ideas that Giler omitted in his rewrite were re-incorporated into production, it is highly unlikely that Giler would have told Cameron about the filmed, but deleted egg morphing scene. Being a fan of the first film had Cameron known of the scene before production on Aliens began, he likely would have incorporated the idea into his script in some way. Cameron may have found out about the scene once production began, but by that point it would have been too much to rework the script and schedule to incorporate the theme into his production, considering how much of the movies third act involved the Queen.

#2 - There is no Alien franchise.

The biomechanical appearance of the Alien and egg morphing lifecycle were introduced in, but only ever appeared in Alien.

The more organic (skeletal in Aliens, fleshy in all movies afterward) appearance and the insect lifecycle were introduced in Aliens and used in all movies since.

Alien is one off, Aliens was a sequel based off the theatrical version of Alien, Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection continued the appearance and lifecycle introduced in Aliens, therefore they are part of the Aliens franchise.

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

"Why did the Xenomorph just await (on the Narcissus ) for Ripley instead of track her down being as though its Faster and Stealthy?"

"Why doesn't the xenomorph hop out and mercilessly murder Ripley on the Narcissus?"

I guess you have to ask the producers who wanted Ripley alive, the last survivor of the Nostromo.

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dkAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

Back in the day before Blue Ray, DVD, VHS, Cable and Betamax, we pretty much saw a movie like Alien in the theater and that was all you got- no rewinds, special features or bathroom breaks. If you wanted more, you had to pony up more cash for another ticket for the privilege.

These days we can analyze everything to death. I am guilty of partaking but prefer the latter.

Suck it you Goll Darn Whippersnappers!

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ninXeno426Alien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

A lot of movies fall apart if too many questions are asked.

Totally agree. This past week I watched Prometheus,Alien Covenant, and Alien. During Alien I stopped myself and asked "Why doesn't the xenomorph hop out and mercilessly murder Ripley on the Narcissus?".... then dismissed it because who cares? No need to question the logic of everything.

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dkAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

When the movies were made, they likely didn't think the franchise would become what it has and maybe didn't scrutinize every little plot point. 

This has been discussed before so it starts to feel like this lol:

 

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

"A lot of movies fall apart if too many questions are asked."

Certainly DK

I could attempt to give a Plausible Answer to those Questions but it would be a BIG READ... and then just my interpretation... and who is to say if Cameron and Co even had it as thought out as i could attempt to explain it.

By the same Token... i could raise a Number of Questions in regards to ALIEN in a similar way..

For Example.... (Theatrical Release)

Why was the Xenomorph just going around Killing all the Crew? is that all it was Intended to do?

Why did the Xenomorph just await (on the Narcissus ) for Ripley instead of track her down being as though its Faster and Stealthy?

But i will be honest, i can come up with answers to those, and they had explanations given by (other Cuts) and RS comments... and their are NOT as many Questions Raised from ALIEN.

I may at another time give my answers to the Questions you put down daliens but its just a case that ALIEN was the movie that was least flawed in this respect...  seems EVERY movie after, has many Questions we could be asking!

How the Eggs got on the Sulaco being a Starter for ALIEN 3 etc

Perhaps the TRUE answer to all of them would be PLOT Convenience/Direction.

Which with ALIEN the reveal of ASH was a Master-Stroke Really!  No Ash and Special Order 937 and if the Crew was not too Stupid or listened to Ripley, then we would have had NO Movie!   Ash was a CLEVER Plot Convenience to get the Organism on the Ship ;)

"The Alien franchise needs more than action movies, that's what I try to say."

I agree, but some like the Action you need to find the Balance or make Multiple Movies that can cater for a different take on the whole Situation.

Say... If ALIEN Isolation and Colonial Marines never existed.

And instead we had TWO movies (released 5-10 years ago) ... a Alien Sequel thats similar to Isolation, and a Aliens Sequel thats similar to a Colonial Marines.

I dont think FOX had the Courage or Finances to risk the release of TWO different movies within a span of 5 years...  they may have considered it, but then they decided to do a AVP, and then the Prequels.

Disney may have taken this into consideration... but the Box Office of Alien Covenant would make them take a LONG LONG Hard think about it.....

look at their Reaction to Han Solo and then Canceling a number of Planned Spin Offs.... If they can do that to Star Wars... they could be FAR more Cautious with ALIEN.

Make a Movie to Please Fans?

Hard Task...

Risk making TWO Movies to please Fans and offer something different to each other....  Big Risk!

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

"but that it threw the logic of Prometheus as well as Alien out the door"

I think it fits with Prometheus as far as the Themes, but they could have took the Theme Further by David Creates a Superior Xenomorph Variant but that would not please Fans either ... guess case of wanting cake and eating it.

Regarding ALIEN... yes this route (The Creator) has made the Franchise less ALIEN than what we should have interpreted from when we saw the Derelict and its Contents/Pilot.

Gavin raises a important point!

A long time ago, when looking at Alien DC, for me it seemed that the whole Egg Morph scene made more Sense if this lead to a EGG LAYING Version of the Organism.

I have YET to see any real Proof of HOW the Queen came to be, its something NOT spoon fed to us in the Movies, we could look at it as being like Ants/Bees in how a Queen can come about which makes the Xenomorph become more of a Alien Species than a Engineered Weapon.

Prometheus has some clues, Alien Engineers more so that the Xenomorph was Re-Engineered from some Organism that the Engineers had encountered... we can speculate HOW this Organism would have Procreated.

Alien Engineers indicates to us that there are Various Cargo Holds that CONTAIN different Versions of the Xenomorph and so when looking at this then YES! as GAVIN pointed out the Jordons could have came across a Different Variant with a Different Procreation Route.

THIS^^^ Kind of Plot that can allow us to GO BACK to the Derelict and introduce something different... another Variant, with a more Disturbing Procreation and a Movie that can have a Mix of Action and Horror.

Why cant ONE variant Procreate like how the Pred-Alien did from AVPR by that Implant Embryos Directly, thus NO-NEED for a Face Hugger.  Another VARIANT infects Hosts so they either Give Birth to Face Hugger like Organisms (like Dr Shaw did) or if a Female they Give Birth to a Egg, that then Grows..

We could even have Eggs be it laid by a Organism, or Birthed from a Host or Morphed from a Host, and regardless these hold a Smaller Version of the Organism... thus NO-FACE HUGGER Stage...

I am sure we could think of even more Bizarre and Horrific Procreation Routes, if we put our mind to it!

A Derelict/Egg Silo with Multiple Cargo Holds can allow for this, a ONE Cargo Hold but LV-223 has different versions of the Bio-Weapon in the Various Complexes likewise allows us to explore Variants of the Xenomorph.

How many ALIEN 3, ALIEN Isolation can we churn out?  how many ALIEN Resurrection or Blomkamp Alien 5 could we churn out (to be fair both seem to be trying to offer something a bit different).  A Direct ALIENS 2 however would have the Potential to just be ALIENS Colonial Marines the Movie!

I think you can go the ACTION and then HORROR Trope maybe 1-2 Times Each before its a case of BEEN DONE TO DEATH!

The Beast is NOT Cooked... but there is only so many ways you can Cook a Egg!

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

"were not to make the same film or even take baby steps but instead a whole new beast."

For whatever reason, i think ALIENS was a worthy sequel, i know some may feel it was NOT what may have been planned, we need to Understand that ALIEN was a case of more than ONE persons Vision.  It was a amalgamation of ideas.  And so ALIENS did not carry on with O'Bannons ideas and explored the Xenomorph Eggs as LAID... but we need to bare in mind that ALIEN also differed from O'Bannons ideas and what ALIEN left us with was the Space Jockey carrying those Eggs which seemed indicated (confirmed by RS) as Biological Warfare for the Space Jockey... 

Cameron had taken this idea, expanded on the Corporate Greed Angle only adding the Queen over a Egg Morph, we still HAD-NOT known how a Queen could have came to be, and maybe this is SOMETHING a Future Movie could indicate more.    While this was a NEW Direction, and gave us a more Advanced Ants/Termites/Bees/Wasps like outlook on the Xenomorph in HOW it behaved, it never covered its Origins and so it left a lot open to interpretation/speculation.

Who knows what a ALIEN 2 would have been but YEARS after ALIEN, it seemed RS had settled on the Xenomorph being a Bio-Weapon of the Space Jockey, it was only a case of was it something they CREATED, something they had obtained and USED as such or something they obtained and Re-Engineered.     This was a Mystery for Years. (Alien Engineers indicated what this connection was).

ALIENS may have changed the Game a little, it certainly did put its MARK on the Franchise to be as ICONIC as it became, maybe a ALIEN 2 would have also Elevated ALIEN and expanded it?  It depends how they could have taken it and it MAYBE could have been more Interesting but more Complex than what ALIENS was... This is Hindsight.... what happened has happened.

I think that ALIEN is what Elevated ALIENS... as i said before IF say ALIEN was never released and ALIENS was our First Foray into this Universe then i think it would NOT have been as much a HIT to a degree.... the Creature Design and Life-Cycle (Parts of it) are something Quite Different... take away those TWO and your left with more of a Starship Troopers.

ALIEN was iconic because it was the First Time really we saw something so Unique.. again TAKE away the HR Giger Input and Life-Cycle and ALIEN would have been another Sci-Fi B Movie Horror.

so i think ALIEN complemented ALIENS without ALIEN it maybe would not have worked as well, but then without ALIENS i am not sure if the Franchise would have been as well Remembered/Marketable.

Regarding ISOLATION  if we could take the PLOT, the Dialect, Add to it and go back to say 1982 and have this Produced as the ALIEN Sequel i think yeah it would pretty much be like a Re-Tread of ALIEN, but provided they kept the Xenomorph as not being shown as much as in ALIEN ISOLATION then it would have worked...  it certainly takes the Company Greed and Agenda to the NEXT Level.

I think it would have worked... (if we had a Movie and the Game Did-Not Exist)  But such a ALIEN Sequel would be something that they could NOT keep Repeating!

The same thing applies to ALIENS...  Company Discover Derelict, they obtain Eggs and wish to obtain a Queen, we get more Eggs, more Xenomorphs... someone comes in to Save the Day... how many times can you repeat that?

A ALIENS 2 (if we ignore Alien 3) would be like a Blomkamp Alien 5 meets ALIENS Colonial Marines Game!

Which is why i was excited for the Prequels, and applauded how Prometheus tried to do something different, give us a more Space Adventure, than a Horror or Action Trope!

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

For the good movies there is a multitude of answers, theories, heated debates.

For the not so good movies, the what you see is what you get kind, there is only nostalgia. And zippo!

The Alien franchise needs more than action movies, that's what I try to say.

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dkAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

A lot of movies fall apart if too many questions are asked.

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

 Gavin that space jockey has a name: Jim Cameron.

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SuperAlienAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

At least Cameron will keep busy with Avatar until 2027, so forget about Aliens 2. That's the good news.

Wait a minute, they planned Avatar films until 2027?

What a bunch of morons!

LMAO

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

Who can tell what happened to the chestburster/xenomorph that killed Jorden.

Or where did they get the facehuggers in the Hadley's Hope lab from? The derelict? And one of them was surgically removed from a host, really?

How did the xenomorphs captured all the colonists alive for hosts? 

How many colonists were used as hosts and how many xenomorphs were there?

Why were colonists still alive when Sulaco arrived on LV426? Would the xenomorphs risk to have the potential hosts die of old age or of starvation, especially when there was a queen laying eggs?

What were the xenomorphs doing since all the colonists were captured? Hibernating? Keeping busy with architecture? Why would they build such a fantastic nest if the hosts were so limited in supply?

How come they got everyone but they missed Newt?

Why did they run against the bullets? Even a cockroach has an instinct of survival. Why did the xenomorph stopped being a survivor? Because there was an egg laying queen that could replaced them? Like, how many were killed, two hundreds, ok, two hundreds eggs more. No more hosts? Oh, shit.

 

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RickTAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

If Disney spent the time on the story and kept close to the cannon then there's hope.  But I'm honestly not surprised with no announcement just disappointed.

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

“So why is Aliens picked on by a certain subset of fans these days?”

Aliens is alright but now it feels like more of an action movie. Alien 3 and 1 have more of the horror thing with people being left alone to battle an enemy that they are not equipped to handle.

I like egg-morphing better since it is more unknown although the queen isn’t a disaster. Cameron did alright with the queen but it could have been better. Aliens is a movie that I have not watched in a long time but I go back to alien and Alien 3 and watch them a bit now and then, they are made in a way that suits me better.

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: Archives - Alien Day Content

Interesting, I like how they colored them. I like to read about historical content behind making the movie or what ever to call it.

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GavinAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

What if...

I have mentioned before my theory that Jordens may have discovered a different set of eggs than that which Kane found. What if the Jordens discovered a lab in the Juggernauts "hammer" arm within which was the Queen and some of her eggs - a variant created by the space jockey before his death (possibly too the cause), that crossed the DNA of the eggs in his cargo hold with that of an insect.

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumProposing Paradise as the last instalment to the Alien prequel trilogy!

Gavin:

“always discuss/debate the topic, never the individual.”

I agree, I don’t see what it brings to the discussion about having it about another board member anyways, if that is what you mean.

As far as Shaw is concerned I think that she was a lot better in the Crossing than in Prometheus. I have seen her in at least two other movies where she was better as a character. I think that the script and how her character was written is to blame, not Noomi as an actress. This could also be that there were parts that were cut out that probably should have stayed in the movie. To resurrect her could work if it is a well-written script and if she understand what her characters is supposed to be like. I am not a huge fan of that but if they would do that then I think that is needed for it to work, and yeah don’t cut out pieces that should be in the movie for the reason of pacing. Character-development is more important than pacing and if all parts of the movie don’t get there then at least we have the characters being better and that is what is important to me.

You mention that she would learn what David did to her. What if she tries to get revenge on David? That is probably a theme that has been covered a lot of times before but maybe it would work for the movie? The fucking android has got to die sooner or later.

You mention her beliefs, that could be interesting but it also depends on how it comes off on the screen. She was naive/goofy in Prometheus but if they could write her better then maybe. I am not in favor of having it about a resurrected person though (AR *cough*)

About The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo and Noomi I have watched that movie, I like it.

You mention Daniels if it is alright to write some about that. I felt like she was a blank face, I did not get any idea of how she was as a person. As much as I disliked Shaw at least she had a personality, which is to say that I understood like “she is like this and that“ but as with Daniels I never understood how she was as a person. She (Daniels) could work if they get a writer worth a damn but the way that it has been until now if they continue that path then we will end up with another mediocre movie.

About David: I agree that he could be changed, right now he is just a mustache-twirling bad guy. I prefer how he was in Prometheus. Sure he could be written as a bad guy but he should also have some sympathetic traits. For a comparison I think that there were more to Hitler than just killing Jews. If you look at really terrible historical leaders a lot of them say that “I was fighting for the better good” no matter how horrible their deeds have been, the same could be done with David.

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumAlien: Covenant chestburster dance

That part was stupid, it was almost like a parody. I understand that it was meant to show that David controlled it but never the less it was dumb and added more bad things to an already disappointing movie (giving David a bigger role, and so on). As far as showing that David made it sure but never the less it was disappointing no matter what the point of it was.

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumDisney-Fox release schedule

I am not very saddened by this, looking at how the Alien movies have been since AR until now. Now if I would have to choose between a new Alien movie if it would be like Covenant or to have no one I would rather choose no movie at all. Learn how to write characters and then make a movie but until then no thanks.

Those short movies that were released were better than Covenant to be honest.

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

While I agree that the Alien life cycle was inspired from the insect world, that wasp that lays its egg into the body of a living host, I still consider the idea of a egg laying queen was forced in by Cameron because he had his marvelous design of her "majesty".

So while in Alien the xenomorph hinted at the insect world, after Aliens there is no doubt it belongs to the insect world.  A space termite that belongs rather to the MiB universe than to the Alien universe.

We lost that catatonic fear, that sheer terror of the xenomorph,  whatever made it the perfect organism was lost in Aliens. You can send the marines straight in the middle of the hive and get away with a few casualties only. The entire hive of the xenomorphs is less dangerous than a group of primates from the Planet of the Apes.

The traditional xenomorph was not good enough to impress anybody, let's make a bigger one that can still fit inside an elevator, but still unable to kick Ripley's ass or at least drag her away into deep space.

As for Cameron's interpretation of how the eggs are made, I can never agree with it. If the Alien was a species in its own right, I prefer O'Bannon's story. For me the eggs are only to keep the facehuggers alive for an indefinite period of time, sort of incubators if you want, the ant looking queen is an unnecessary addition to the Alien world.

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I.RaptusAlien: Covenant ForumDisney-Fox release schedule

From what I can make of that schedule Disney have a very very forward and meticulously planned release schedule, with perhaps several of teams working on projects and assigned future projects. There are numerous 'untitled Disney live action' that you could assume are in various stages of early development, but are essentially Greenlit?  

While the companies they have acquired like Fox, Marvel and Pixar do not as much of regimented system. 

Could it be that although an 'untitled Fox Live Action' film (potentially an Alien title) is not listed, it could just be that such a project is in the works but not yet Greenlit, pending hype from Alien Day?

 

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dkAlien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

ninXeno426 Personally, I compartmentalize a bit. The Qudrilogy is canon to me regardless of "prequels". I have a "whatever" attitude toward P and AC. Decent movies on their own, but they seem to be getting bogged down too much with lofty and heavy handed ideas. Nothing tops the Quadrilogy for me.

 

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ninXeno426Alien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

 My beef with David "creating" the xenomorph is not that it seemingly crushes the queen,but that it threw the logic of Prometheus as well as Alien out the door. And that's coming from someone who enjoys Covenant and Prometheus and arguably feels Covenant might be better than Prometheus. I recall Ridley confirming that the LV 426 derelict managed to escape LV 223, and the space jockey chest burster caused it's crash. Then there was all the evidence of a xenomorph outbreak on LV 223.... Covenant discarded all of this.

That being said, between egg morphing,A hive,and black goo,the xenomorph is extremely adaptable to it's environment.

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chliAlien: Covenant ForumDavid Did Not Create the Xenomorph (Part 2)

Well, I suppose a fitting ending would be David leaving LV-223 in a juggernaut loaded with eggs (to wipe out mankind), gets infected (how does a synthetic get infected?) and ends up on LV-426 . . .

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dkAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

We can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which fills up first. I would like to see a new proper movie soon, but TBH, I am very impressed with what indies are releasing for the past few years with tight budgets and such. 

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ninXeno426Alien: Covenant Forum"Quit griping!" "I like griping"

Side notes: Thank you for the compliment on the topic banner Big Dave, I love fan made posters and that in particular is a favorite.

Iraptus I saw that in one of my many Alien Facebook groups lol,I saw Endgame and enjoyed it but Marvel will never come close to how much I love Alien.

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BubbaGumpJrAlien: Romulus 2 NewsDisney unveil Fox movie release schedule with no new Alien films in sight

Honestly the whole Disney buying Fox thing is just insane. I can't believe that people's excitement over the possibility of seeing Fantastic Four and X-Men allowed for them to completely ignore that Disney is a monopoly and a powerhouse. Who cares about Wolverine, I care about the fact that an enormous corporation just bought out almost all of another enormous corporation. On the other hand I wanted to point out that yes, Disney said that they would be making more Alien films, but they didn't say when. They could wait up to 20 years if they wanted before they start making more. 

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