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Good point MonsterZero, there isn’t much viable space and resources on LV-426, it quite literally is such a random and poor spot to host a Human colony… Making it sound more and more like a front for Weyland-Yutani tests. Although I don’t think any of the colonists were aware and to them they were convinced it was just another terraforming operation. There is definitely way more at play than what we were originally led to believe.
"I'm still not behind the idea of Hadley's Hope being a testing ground,..."
Nothing makes sense with lv-426. Why would they even terraform such a small ( 750 mi diameter ) waterless world.
Hadley's Hope could have been a cover operation for a covert military op? The settlers just playing the dupes. A way for W-Y to keep other governments/companies from getting nosey.
Company X/Government X: "What is W-Y doing on LV-426?"
Informant "Looks like they are setting up a terraforming operation....nothing out of the ordinary..."
According to the audition leaks from February 2023, one of the characters named Bjorn discovers the WY station and talks to the two other characters Rain and android Andy about the discovery. Did he find it by accident, a distress signal, or is the WY company pulling strings?
the film should be called ALIEN: While Ripley was Sleeping
I'm still not behind the idea of Hadley's Hope being a testing ground, since Burke acted alone in having the Jordans go out and find the derelict ship. Since the whole of Weyland-Yutani failed to find the derelict ship.
@Jonesy I definitely think there will be some tie-ins. VScooper revealed there's some big twists in the plot but that it's a huge payoff, I definitely think there will be some company conspiracies at play which lead the front of Hadley's Hope being a terraforming colony when really it's a secluded live testing ground for Weyland-Yutani's bio-engineered weapons... still raises questions about how the Derelict will fit into it though...
Also agreed, after reading these leaks I'm more excited for the film than I was before. I LOVE the connection to the original film and Prometheus, such a service to those of us who liked the prequels and to those who loved the original.
@Xenotaris, perhaps it will be a subtle nod at the end or a post-credits scene showing a Weyland-Yutani executive approving plans of Hadley's Hope or something of that nature.
Cool, I'm planning on rebooting my AVPU
I'm not sure if they are going to bring up Hadley's Hope, more than likely they'll just focus on the Space Station Romulus and future sequels would further build out the alienverse during this interregnum. 57 years is a large gap between 2122 - 2179, this era of the timeline is rife with interesting stories to be told
really quite excited that this film is connected with the main timeline. I am picturing the film may lead to the establishment of "Hadley's Hope" sometime between ALIEN and ALIENS
Yeah I like number 2 myself.
Probably do some fanfiction on Burke:
[SCENE START]
INT. SPACELAB ORBITING LV-426 - 3209
The sterile white lab feels hollow, a stark contrast to the vibrant hub it once was. Weyland 2.0, synthetic but retaining the sharp intelligence and arrogance of his human form, gazes out at the scarred landscape of LV-426.
WEYLAND 2.0: (To himself) A monument to a naive ambition.
Across from him sits Burke 2.0, his synthetic body mirroring his human era's slick ruthlessness. Bishop, an unchanged synthetic from their escape, sets down two glasses – dark, swirling liquid inside.
BISHOP: Synthetic simulacrum of a 2150 vintage, as requested. Adjustments made for… altered palettes.
BURKE 2.0: (Swirling the liquid) Tastes metallic. Fitting, for the ashen world we return to.
WEYLAND 2.0: Decades on the run, Burke. Chasing whispers in the void. Did we truly believe we'd find solace amongst the wreckage?
BURKE 2.0: No solace, Weyland. Answers. We couldn't outrun it forever. That damned dark matter… a parasite, carrying the black goo across the cosmos. This desolate wasteland is a glimpse of what awaits everywhere.
WEYLAND 2.0: You cling to that fanciful theory, even after all this time? Perhaps a malfunction in your synthetic mind, Burke. The xenomorphs were a plague, yes, but dark matter? Nonsense.
BURKE 2.0: (Voice tight) Nonsense? Every large mass we encountered, every civilization – dormant, lifeless. The whispers were clear – the darkness infects them all. A black dawn for the universe.
WEYLAND 2.0: Hmph. Even in our synthetic shells, you haven't lost your penchant for melodrama, Burke. Perhaps it's residual human sentimentality.
BURKE 2.0: Sentimental? No, Weyland. It's survival. We need to understand this… plague. Maybe on this cursed rock, where it all began, we can find something… a weapon? A way to fight back.
WEYLAND 2.0: (Leaning back, a glint in his eyes) Intriguing. Perhaps there's merit to your ramblings after all. This new existence… it lacks a certain spark. A challenge. Fighting an invisible enemy… that has a certain appeal.
BURKE 2.0: (A ghost of a smirk) Then we have an accord, Weyland? Together, we delve into this darkness. Not for the glory of Weyland-Yutani, but for our own… survival.
Bishop silently watches them, the swirling liquid in his glass reflecting the desolate landscape outside.
[SCENE END]
Backstory 2 makes a lot of sense with his character, he seemed to be a low ranking corporate man.
Absolutely! Since Burke's backstory is never explored in the movies, we can get creative. Here are a few potential angles:
Backstory 1: The Silver Spoon
- Born into a wealthy corporate family. Think privileged boarding schools, ruthless competition, little warmth.
- Childhood defined by manipulation: Learned early to lie, charm, and exploit others to gain his parent's approval.
- Rise to Power: MBA from a top school, but he excels at the social game of climbing the corporate ladder, not actual business skills.
- Motivation in "Aliens": He sees the mission as a chance to score big in a family-like company where being ruthless is rewarded. It's his warped version of proving himself.
Backstory 2: The Scrappy Outsider
- Lower-middle-class upbringing, resentful of those born into privilege. Clawed his way up based on sheer ambition and a stomach for morally gray choices.
- Childhood defined by scarcity: Learned to take every chance, compromise was for suckers, and success justified ANY means.
- Rise to Power: Night school, started as a low-level analyst at W-Y. Cutthroat, backstabbing anyone who threatened his rise.
- Motivation in "Aliens": Driven by an inferiority complex. Wants to amass enough wealth and power that no one can look down on him again.
Backstory 3: The True Believer
- Grew up idealizing Weyland-Yutani's vision: Space exploration as profit and progress no matter the cost.
- Childhood defined by isolation: Bookish, obsessed with company lore. This morphed into a distorted loyalty.
- Rise to Power: Possesses genuine technical expertise, but also blind obedience. He became valuable by unflinchingly carrying out any immoral action asked him.
- Motivation in "Aliens": Believes getting the xenomorph is worth ANY sacrifice because it furthers his twisted idea of serving the company's higher purpose.
Bonus: Childhood Trauma
You could add deeper psychological elements to any of these:
- Bullying Victim: Fuels his need to control others and never be vulnerable.
- Witnessing a family member succumb to corporate greed: Explains his cynical worldview.
- Early abandonment: Makes him value the abstract idea of the company over individual lives.
WOW , For the 3rd time
- Burke as Mastermind:
- You're right; Burke's motivations are greed and ambition, not a grand Weyland-Yutani conspiracy. Your points about him initiating the events of "Aliens" are on the money.
- HOWEVER, it's implied higher-ups at W-Y knew the risks. They just didn't care about the specifics of how Burke achieved getting a specimen, only the outcome.
- Ripley's Fate:
- The Company destroying her reputation IS more believable than assassination. It fits their pattern of avoiding direct blame.
- BUT, you're right, "Aliens" shows W-Y's changed perspective. Suddenly, learning about the xenomorph is priority, even over their employee's life. This shift is probably due to the decades passing since "Alien", making them even more desperate.
- Burke's Fate:
- Your point is very strong: He caused massive property damage. Even with a xenomorph, getting promoted from that mess is iffy.
- But W-Y is NOT a rational entity. They're driven by profits, even when irrational. Burke COULD have spun success as bigger profits outweighing the colony's cost.
- Synths vs. W-Y:
- It seems this was about the "Alien: Isolation" game, which features an advanced AI and Weyland-Yutani agents.
- Agreed – that game implies these entities (AI, corporations) are ruthlessly intelligent, above human concerns. This thematically fits the entire Alien franchise.
Overall, your analysis of Burke and the Company's actions is spot-on. The beauty of the Alien franchise is that these morally bankrupt, self-serving entities make situations so much worse!
"They didn't know Ripley's story until she started blabbing it all over the station....basically calling out the company for killing her crew mates.....it would have been obvious who killed her. Much easier to MIA her. "
Ummmm. The Company revoked her flight license and were more than willing to let her live on Earth.
"Burkes backstory is unknown.......He could have been plotting a company coup or something. W-Y must have know how dangerous this mission was going to be....Why send such and important employee?"
I don't think so. I think Burke was trying to get a promotion or elevated his position in the echelons of the Company. It was Burke's idea to bring Ripley back to Lv-426 after all. It was Burke that told the Jordens where the Derelict was. It was Burke that ultimately lead to the fall of Hadley's Hope.
If the xenomorphs didn't press the attack in the last act and Ripley, Hicks, Newt, Gorman, Vasquez, Hudson, and Burke made it back to the Salaco. Ripley was going to report Burke's wrong doings to the Company.
The Weyland-Yutani is a powerful company but I think they would have been more pissed off that Burke sacrificed one of their colonies which costs billions of dollars than being unable to recover a xenomorph specimen. Now if Burke was successful in his mission, (sabotaging the marine's cryopods and infecting Ripley and Newt with a xenomorph embryo) then the Company would have overlooked the colonies destruction.
"As far as I'm concerned, there are 2 entities; Synths and Weyland-Yutani. I'd say the Synthetic AI is always ahead. "
What are you talking about?
awesome. Good then that's means the TV series is in its own continuity
@DarkNebula - That's a great catch! Never seen that before. Thanks.
Cool!
I hope the interior of the BigChap rescue ship is retro! Old monitors and such.
I Hope BigDave will show up sometime and add some thoughts.
Great breakdown Nebula! I've got more to add when I have more time. As for the speculation - I'm not sure anyone will have survived on the ROMULUS station by the time the crew of 6 arrive - besides a slaughtered Android (maybe...)
From the sounds of it - the station has been abandoned for some time so it's unlikely any Humans survived.
The big question I haven't figured out yet - HOW do the scavengers of this gritty / poverty-stricken colony learn of this station's whereabouts? This leads me to think WY are busy planting moles and tips to eager / unsuspecting people to go investigate their lost property they're too scared to check in on themselves hahaha.
@MonsterZero - yes, as far as I'm aware the film will start with footage of Big Chap being recovered. My source explained that the Xenomorph is still alive upon recovery but not in good shape - as we can imagine. The fate of Big Chap is a painful one.
This is one of the many details that I'm most excited for, something about the connection to the first movie just does it for me.
@MonsterZero Reminds me of this animated short from 2014
Excellent!
I wonder if they will show the Big Chap being discovered? That's how I'd start the movie:
A tiny object tumbling over and over in deep space....starts the movie.
The floating frozen xenomorph is suddenly illuminated....grappling arms extend to collect the prize.
CUT
A plot based on the “leaks” so far:
-The film will start on a new planet showcasing a gritty, industrial colony where the main characters live.
-One of the characters is an android.
-The characters leave the planet and find an abandoned WY space station “Romulus”. Judging by the official photo, the design aesthetic of the space station is inspired by Alien: Isolation.
-They board the station in hopes of stealing some equipment, which turns out to be a bad idea.
-The station is swarming with Xenomorphs lurking in the dark, Facehuggers are also said to play an important role. Lots of suspense and action.
-Characters find out that WY recovered the Big Chap from Alien (1979) floating through space and brought it to the research station where they reverse-engineered its DNA, extracted the black-goo material, and used it to create their own Xenomorphs. Something happened and the station was swarmed with Xenomorphs.
Speculations:
-Characters might find some WY scientists/staff who survived.
-They might discover a hive in one part of the space station, with cocooned scientists.
-I’d be surprised if they also found the queen.
Same Nebula, same! I'll admit I was a bit apprehensive to be excited for this film when it was first announced, but after everything I've learned about it, I think it's going to satisfy BOTH the Prequel fans and the Purists of the original films. I love love love the deep conspiracies and diving deeper into Weyland-Yutani's experimentation on the Alien. The fact the original Xenomorph was discovered and acts as the basis for what Romulus becomes is as poetic as it gets.
This news definitely took my excitement to another level. Being of the camp who loved Prometheus, I'm beyond stoked to see this tie-in and to know the prequels were not cast aside! We may not get the conclusion to David's story, but the mythology lives on to be explored!
"Prometheus Strain" also, love that.
My excitement for this film is immeasurable.
I suspected there would be some connections to prequels, but nothing huge.
If I recall correctly, in Alien: The Cold Forge, it was stated that face-huggers inject a black goo-like substance into the hosts to create chest bursters.
To be fair, Ripley ALWAYS thought she had defeated the Alien but was ALWAYS disappointed to learn she merely delayed the inevitable. This remains ture to form hahaha
Scoop / Spoiler:
The name ROMULUS is the name of the Weyland-Yutani research station in the movie. The station is said to have been abandoned for some time by the time the film takes place. The station will be investigated by a crew of six scavengers, of which Rain (played by Cailee Spaeny) is the lead. Andy (David Jonsson) is Rain’s android brother. The Romulus station is described as circular / funnel shaped and was once a bustling research facility before something happened, leaving it abandoned for years.
Alien: Romulus will introduce new forms of, more ferocious Xenomorphs / Chestbursters and Facehuggers. This coincides with our previous report where it was acknowledged that the Facehuggers in Alien: Romulus have spiked barbs on their fingers - making the act of face-hugging way more graphic and gruesome.
The society Rain and Andy come from do not like Synthetic Androids vey much and there's more to this dynamic explored in the film's plot. Aesthetically speaking, the planet they come from is described as being "industrial grit". This will be a dramatic contrast to the more pristine aesthetic of Prometheus and Alien: Covenant's ships and environments.
Scoop / Spoiler: The original Xenomorph from Alien will be discovered by Weyland-Yutani and brought to the ROMULUS research station at the start of the film: Source [Confirmed]
Ripley be like after hearing this news
Wow indeed - very very exciting details imo!
so excited, so many news these days. I am glad Ash is somewhat related to this film
Cool. I think this is why Ridley was onboard with this movie...He knew they weren't going to throw out his work.
Cool! I can't wait to hear the soundtrack.
They didn't know Ripley's story until she started blabbing it all over the station....basically calling out the company for killing her crew mates.....it would have been obvious who killed her. Much easier to MIA her. Burkes backstory is unknown.......He could have been plotting a company coup or something. W-Y must have know how dangerous this mission was going to be....Why send such and important employee?
As far as I'm concerned, there are 2 entities; Synths and Weyland-Yutani. I'd say the Synthetic AI is always ahead.
