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@Xenotaris I agree with you.

MonsterZero, I think you described it perfectly - Alien to me as well, is about big ideas. I hope the series is expansive and presents big ideas as well, but I too am a bit skeptical and hesitant. We do have Fede Alvarez's Alien movie to look forward to though if the series is a bust.

Agree with Jonesy, I'm a big fan of the retro aesthetic but I just hope they stick to the established timeline.

I also never subscribed to the notion that David created the Xenomorph, as Dark Nebula pointed out, David merely created a variant of the Xenomorph, not the OG, so the concept remains untapped in terms of Xenomorph origins. Frankly I'm okay if we never learn of its true origins and it remains a nightmarish mystery. 

That being said Noah Hawley did mention exploring the Alien life cycle more... so perhaps new aspects of that process will be explored - which I'm open to.

1. Horrible idea, its like the AVP movies but with no Predators.
2. We already had that with Prometheus and Alien: Covenant.
3. This is a mistake, since Hawley will be jettison major aspects of ALIEN lore.
4. Kind of hard to do a Ripley Story prior to her birth.
5. The Biggest mistake next to removing Prometheus and Covenant from canon. ALIEN is about well aliens, not about transhumanism!
6. What's their left to explore without full on retconning or reincorporating stuff already show in the expanded universe?
7. Absolute woke garbage!

MonsterZero

Well I was going to say the xenomorphs are more like highly advanced robots given their biomechanical nature. The Queen still works with the "advanced robot" motif, she is basically a factory for the eggs. She is always pregnant because her creators engineered her this way, she has no mate because she is a factory.

The Drones, Workers, Warriors, Praetorians fit toolness of the xenomorph. Like with war machines, you don't build one type of airplane to do everything, you multiple different classes of aircraft or tank to do specific things.

"evolution would create the perfect being"

Yeah, without a Xenomorph homeworld backstory, showing the face-huggers evolving over millions of years(....and just happened to produce a humanoid monster??  The Queen looks like this and the drones look like that!??) . 

No...A genetically modified creature makes way more sense. A military supersoldier project or something. Playing God is more tantalizing IMHO than an evolved bug.

Engineer77

Unfortunately Noah Hawley wants to erase the Alien prequels because of a false notion that he thinks that evolution would create the perfect being.

This show has several red flags to me.

Climate Change being a topic, I think the real reason why Hawley threw away Prometheus is because Prometheus's viral website established that global warming was stopped by the atmosphere processors. ALIEN shouldn't be about climate change, that's what spelled doomed for THE PREDATOR.

Xenomorphs being on Earth prior to its DISCOVERY in 2122, looks like we have another AVP 04 and AVPR here.

The main plot about metahumans and androids revolting due to discrimination, sounds like something from a marvel movie, NOT ALIEN.

   

I wouldn't mind the Earth setting if it took place beyond the year 2179, anything prior to ALIENS is asking for a nasty continuity snarl!

Alien franchise to me, is about big ideas.....Deep space. Ancient alien civilizations. Cosmic horror.

This series doesn't sound like any of the above.

Maybe setting it on a Xeno-infested Earth would work for me. But it sounds like just an isolated bug hunt on Earth.

So no sequel to Covenant?! I want to know what happens to David and the Engineers!

So no sequel to Covenant?! I want to know what happens to David and the Engineers!

Still Scott said before making prometheus that the xenomorphs were bioweapons but I will accept that the Neomorphs are a natural occurring organism if they weren't already products of the black goo, maybe if they had gone down the Beluga-Xenomorph route? Since the Beluga -Xenomorph WAS the natural form of the xenomorph, before being replaced by the semi-weaponized neomorph.

Also why can't the Engineers invented the black goo? There is no canonical evidence that suggests the Engineers didn't invent it, i mean that would be like saying Humans didn't invent the car we merely found them left over from the dinosaurs. I just realized this is a copy-paste of the age old question about the xenomorph eggs.

I am buying the retro thing. Alien universe still has so much to explore without needing the futuristic technology as in Prometheus and Covenant. Alien Isolation is a good example. But I do hope they stick to the official timeline. I still want the tv show connects with Ripley universe, even remotely. 

Yes please! F that android made the Xeno thing. I would like it to be older, and maybe done by the SJ or something that the SJ found and developed. If they will kick out what the prequels established about the Xeno, the better.

"... it does unfortunately derail the canonical efforts Ridley Scott made with his prequel films which never got to properly culminate. "

Those were not very well executed anyway, they can do better.

Yeah, nice Chris. That works for me!

We could always ask: Did the Engineers create the black goo or did they find it on their travels? Maybe they are brainless morons and are just being boosted with found alien tech.

If we 'humanize' the Engineers and bring them down to our level ( not such Godlike stature ), that would work better.....They fear the birth of the Xenomorph and the 'old ones' as much as we do. 

Where's BigDave? He is good at these deep dives.

If Noah was referring to the "David created the Xenomorphs" statement, that was debunked in Alien the roleplaying game where it stated that David created his own Xenomorph variant in an attempt to recreate the perfect organism, and the Xenomorphs existed long ago.

The way I see it, Xenomorph-like organisms like Neomorphs or Deacons are naturally occurring organisms that existed for billions of years, and the classic biomechanical Xenomorphs are weaponized, improved versions by Engineers. 

The Xenomorph to me, always represented the corruption of life and Godly creations, the way it entered a host, ate them alive from the inside until it gained enough power to burst its way from within, leaving a lifeless corpse behind and the host "reborn" as this physical embodiment of some demon-like corrupted organism, like a manifestation of evil in physical form.

I thought Prometheus did the right thing, making us assume the Engineers were studying the Xenomorph and its properties to reverse engineer its abilities into a bioweapon. Covenant alluded more to the concept that the Xenomorph was created as a bioweapon which I also don't like the idea of.

There's SO much they can do with the Alien origins, part of its mystery resides in its unknowns, much like the Space Jockey and its crashed ship. I hope they take the Alien back to this unknown thing but don't make it some primitive organism discovered in deep space. I much prefer the deeper concepts surrounding its creation, evolution and purpose.

Let's just pray that VFX and CGI artists don't get pixel f-ed, and are given enough time and room to breathe so that they can finish their work. But this doesn't seem to be the case with a lot of Marvel and Disney movies.

As much as I want a practical effect/man-in-a-suit xenomorph, the movie industry isn't giving up on CGI anytime soon.

Cool. No CGI Xeno's...hopefully.

ugh. 

Yeah, I'm glad this is only a TV series, not a movie.

The Xeno is an engineered disfigurement of a human. I don't expect to find humanoid shapes in deep space. That would be more astonishing than the monster.

The xenomorph has always been an engineered organism, Hawley is a dumb ass

The prequels take place. The company knows about the aliens but can't find any.

They detect a signal on LV-426. They don't tell the Nostromo crew, which will be flying by it, and change the science officer while it's docked.

When it flies by, Mother re-routes the ship to it and wakes the crew.

The catch with this is that the company already has the coordinates to the signal, which means it didn't need to wait to rescue Ripley to get the location of the derelict ship. And yet it didn't bother to investigate it across the decades the Nostromo was lost.

One major problem with the movie is that it involves a Sulaco that's nuclear-armed and doesn't even have a captain and a crew.

One writer thinks that it's going to be about thieves encountering aliens, and another referring to another crew encountering the same.

I think the aliens will become like secondary antagonists.

I mean if you want to recapture the horror of the first film then that ship had sailed.

Alien is like any monster horror movie franchise, you can't be wowed twice if you watched it multiple times. Prime examples Godzilla and Jurassic Park.

Prometheus, there's something about the head that's mysterious.

love it , lets give James Cameron a call 

first Alien poster , its stuck in my head forever,,,, and will never go away ,,lol 

Alien Covenant for me. And the movie has become my favorite after Alien. I hope I get another chance to see it in theater. The darkest of all.

What I was getting at was Thoughts_Dreams keeps saying invent a new creature to replace the xenomorphs and I was curious what can possibly replace the xenomorphs since they are synonymous with the ALIEN franchise.

If the new creature in question is biomechanical, parasitic, eyeless, head is phallically shaped it will scrutinized as a xenomorph knock off at worse or wasted potential at best.

The new alien creature can't be a simple xenomorph 2.0, we already have those with the neomorph and deacon.

actually there is conflicting evidence on climate change, well in the mankind is responsible since a lot of the computer data uses false data or news agencies are deliberately misinterpreting weather data even when the climatologist on that same broadcast is saying otherwise. 

Also not every climatologist agrees that climate change is caused by humans

pretty much all of the Alien Resurrection xenos are cloned aliens

I'm torn between which poster to vote for, so i would go for the Alien Covenant since It looks haunting

Thank you for sharing this intriguing excerpt from “Alien Becoming.” The project’s do***entary style, narrated directly by David, promises a unique perspective. Glitchy footage and reconstructed past events projected on screen add an enigmatic layer to the unfolding story. I’m curious to witness how this raw form evolves into a complete work before “Alien Romulus” debuts.

Your project delves into existential questions, and I eagerly await its unfolding. May the sands of LV_233 reveal secrets beyond imagination, and may David’s journey lead us to profound revelations.

Love the Prometheus poster too, omnious and captivating. And the tagline "The search for our beginning could lead to our end" fits perfectly. 

I also like the Covenant poster. When I first saw it, I thought that David must have carved it.

Prometheus poster, by far. The ominous nature of it, the number of fan theories it sparked. I’ll never forget when the Prometheus poster first got released and everyone was like… “Wait what” hahaha, good times. I miss those days - when there was mystery in the posters and trailers.

@Thoughts_Dreams

Alien: Resurrection had those.