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When Shaw is looking at the ship standing upright (0:52 of the trailer), I think it could be taking off or in its final position before it goes "clunk" because the shot is centric on Shaw (David is absent, he would have been with her on the initial boarding) and I'm not convinced the ship actually stops rolling when it crashes (CGI camera at 0:54 *seems* to be moving slower than the ship itself). Another mystery is frame 0:46 of the trailer when Shaw gets blown away. What could that dust storm be? They dodging a hurricane? Or is the ship landing for the first time? Can't confirm/deny much in that shot, there's no ship visible...

There is very little that we know about the ship. There is some info on the web that says the ship "spins." The final standing position of the derelict is little too perfect. You are telling me that after being hit by an explosion the ship just falls to the ground standing upright in perfect 90 deg angle?

@Jeffomorph Can't see any debris floating around and it looks pretty intact to me bud. IMO this is when Shaw is dragged away by the storm and makes first contact with the Engineers. [img]http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/12/22/prometheus-trailer-1.jpg[/img]

LOL bellaisanalien - In the storm scene Shaw is wearing her yellow hat thing. Also is pretty much well established that the derelict crashes and rolls to that position.

I don't know how you can know that for sure Snork..... she's going to be pretty shaken up by the storm and that yellow head band isn't staying on her head.

[img]http://application.denofgeek.com/pics/film/promtrail/11.jpg[/img] I see this as the derelict in landed position - seems to perfect to be crashed...... and the former picture of Shaw to me is standing in front of the landed ship..... completely agree I could be wrong, but please show me some proof of the resting place of the crashed derelict......

@BellaisanAlien Well you could be right...but there are also signs of "drag" marks on the ground. (To the left of the ship in the last pic you posted). The marks can support the idea of the ship crashing and rolling. However, I agree that the "rolling" seems kind of odd.

honestly I don't know if you are trolling or not... Pretty much most people on these forums have already sussed (99% sure) that the the Prometheus/Magellan crashes into the derelict in the air, causing it to fall from the sky turning as it does so and when it crashes the momentum continues causing it to roll to the position shown in the image you posted. It has been discussed in many, many threads since the trailer was released.

I'm not Trolling Snork, I am just just thinking that the picture of Shaw looking up at the derelict is either: 1. after the crash as you believe.... or 2. before the derelict has taken off. My theory is Shaw gets swept away from the storm makes first actual contact between herself and the Engineers, becomes impregated and returns / escapes back to the Prometheus....... Only a guess on my part though.

Thought I'd throw this GIF into the mix lol. [img]http://s17.postimage.org/8j4vc6csd/shaw_and_theron_running_2.gif[/img]

@draekus, I see what you mean about the drag marks, but my point is that from a few pictures it is so hard to set a context. The derelict could be postioned on a ridge, and the drag marks are the ridge rather than the latter....... I just can't see the derelict crashing and then righting it's self to be in such a perfect position......

Thanks Ripley Clone 8, how about matching the light and landscape between the crash and the pictures of the static derelict. Especially the pict with just the derelict seems to be a completley different terrain.....

I see where you're coming from Bella, for the ship to crash tumble and roll into the "launch ready" position doesn't seem very physically likely. Seeing that we have no reason to think that the trailer is chronological, the scene where Shaw is looking up at the Derelict could very well not be connected to the crash.

I have a theory that the xenomorph becomes biomechanoid initially from its raw dna which is organic tissue- but with a built in symbiotic value that absorbs a hosts dna structure to complete its new unique life form state,... and either by accident or design, the lifeform becomes absorbed into the body of a android, and through symbiosis it merges with the artificial dna created by man, and the xenos raw state /living organic tissue, is what your seeing in the trailer, and through this joining of raw xeno dna/organic tissue, and android manufactured dna, you get the birth of the biomechanoid organism we know and love today.

My take is: Derelict lands and causes the tempest that pushes Shaw to fall deep. Then She encounters the SJs who make experiments on her (interspecies gangbang?) Anfd returns impreganted to the others. When she already gave birth to whatever, and maybe after some fights betwen human and mutants and SJ, the derelict takes off to reach earth but gets hit by a kamikaze Attack by the prometheus. Then after the midair crash the derelict falls from thr skies damaged on The planet but did not break apart At all, just debris.

Alterstate, thats the longest sentence I've ever seen

yes but what do you think of the theory lol.

My head hurts now.....lol.

Ok! is this the derelict that Dallas and crew find in Alien? if so and it has crashed?are telling me that it has,by some pure fluke!,crash landed right on top of the cavern containing the alien eggs!!!..because that then opens up a new thread asking,after the crash did the Alien burn through the hull excavate a massive cavern and lay eggs in it and set up some kind of sophisticated laser alarm system? because the movie seems to suggest that the egg chamber was a purpose built storage facility!!! there you go!!! chew on that one guys

LOL, It definitely would tie in with David getting infected and the whole "green slime is a sort of genesis material" I wouldn't rule it out, in fact the more I think of it the more sense it makes. Maybe in the last 8 minutes where we're supposed to see "strands of Alien DNA" some sort of early android Xeno is produced that sets the scene for the crashed ship on Acheron.

Wheresbasky?? WHERESBASSKY??? sorry been wanting to do that for ages.

just letting the mind wander guys

yep that green slime is indeed the raw state genetic material i'm referring to

Yayyyy!!! Enderwiggin you got it!!! that's what I was going for, was wondering if any one would get the reference "wiersbasky?... wlersbasky?"a panic stricken Hicks shouted.

Yeah its a great soundbite! For years I thought he was shouting Wheres Basky? then I read he was referring to Private Trevor Wierzbowski LOL

In other words the dna strand has missing code that it acquires from a living host to complete its final form, it can get this missing code from any living organism,.. but since this is the first creation of this species -created by the engineers, then it is a prototype . However it.. ( either by accident or design) becomes attached to an organism that is not a natural organism but is indeed an android. The android is a human made genetic design and therefore the symbiosis of the two life forms results in the xeno biomechanoid life form.

[img]http://s14.postimage.org/lq1pl83z3/anigif45456.gif[/img] I concur.

This is something that has been pondered before, but its been quite some time now. Since there was a new discussion on the room itself enlight of the new trailer footage why not. There is a smaller human chair now so what is the deal with the huge old one. Regards, Rick

Maybe each ship has its own type of chair. A ship for defemse would have its own type verses a ship for terriforming planets.

nah please not to shoot eggs ...that will be pathetic :D:D:D i think is the same kind of chair ...i dont care about different style and different size ...are just production choices to me . We have always thought that is the trasmitter ...the nostromo crew didnt notice any kind of window so we can assume is not a gun ( not a smart placement for it ) i still think is the trasmitter device

i think its a navigation instrument like a periscope but with a map of space and galaxies when you look through it. However you need to be jacked in to see through it before it will work.

I think there is a dome above the chair as seen on various images and models, but no clue if it was retractable or transparent. Since it's really the only apparent "instrument" in the room I tend to believe it's a multifunction device. If the Jockey is truly fused with the chair, it might be able to control the device/ship directly without having to push bottons and turns knobs, etc. This could also explain the controls seen in Prometheus images of the chair room. The big blue alien (in that form) can't interface directly with the ship, and therefor needs a more manual way to control things. Now as to the function. Possibly some sort of navigation, and sensor array. Maybe a targeting system for weapons as well.

and it probably became damaged in the crash.

I don't see why anyone is convinced the old chair and new one are different sizes- and yes I've read those discussions. Slightly different design? Somewhat yes. There wasn't anything in the room from the trailer pics that confirm a difference in size. There is no true size reference for the "engineer" in the picture. He could be 12 feet tall- You just can't tell.

I aways wondered if the ship was alien powered. To me the chair (especially with the helmet being tethered to the chest-piece) made me think the jockey was locked down. It makes me wonder if the alien is unwillingly powering the ship. I know it's out there, but I really can't bring myself to watch another large humanoid movie after Avatar, and I can't fathom the interaction between the space jockey race and the humans, other than using them to the advantage of the human race.

Forgot to add another thought. The red lasers in the cave could be on earth as well being used as some sort of mapping system. Plotting dimensions etc...

Yes, these points have been discussed at length. The figure is definitely a crew member. But all that was said was speculation beyond that.

Here a pic.....to help us out... [img]http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/7383267/img/prometheus/starchart.png[/img]

Definitely in the space jockey chair room I say vickers or david

I'll go with David... the odd thing is the shapes that compose the orbit lines..