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I think this means that they are already working on awakening. might just be a coincidence though.
i think cgi is fine as long as the audience can't tell that it is cgi.
also it has to be used to enhance. not replace.
for exaple, mad max: fury road was hailed because of its practical effects but there is actually quite a bit of cg in it. is just incorperated into it well.
as for horror. i think that you are right saying that the xenon shouldent be running around in full daylight.
show the xeno less. makes it more effective.
The one place were alien covenant really neaded the cgi that it uses was for the back burster. it would be extremly fake looking it they used animotronics at that speed. the backburster is also something that can remain scary even when in full lighting.
Humans are social creatures for the most part. I imagine people feel their preferences are validated when others share the same sentiments even if some details aren't agreed on- hence a fan base?
That is a big reason I don't like the theater experience- I can't pause or rewind if I miss something. In the theater, you're just out of luck if you miss any little detail.
Me to. it went from about a 7/10 in my book to an 8.5/10 over 3 veiwings.
I think the biggest problem with seeing t theators for me is that if you watch every single trailer and promotional image, there is like no new shots in the movie.
every single set piece was in some type of trailer or image, and I had seen literaly every single shot with the xenomorph in it before I watched it. they should definatly market less and let us be surprised.
Cerulean Blue I would argue that it is a modern sci fi classic but not horror. the horror was one of the places were I thought it kinda fell. the caesarian sequence was intence though.
The terminator was one of the only times I thought that POV was used properly.
This really a question? They're clearly trying very, very hard to make sure people know they're aping Alien.
In the intro to the song with the slowed down sample. I picture the Prometheus flying over LV 223 like in the trailer
Ash's remark and the link with the missing dialogue from John Logan's Love 2015 draft.
'The notions of divine salvation, retribution, redemption etc are just projections of our own inner feelings and wishes".
This quote from you gets to the nub of what makes Covenants decision to use the Engineers as mere texture so disappointing. Your point is precisely what David should have been able to mediate for us, that David and Shaw actually did discover on the crossing that the Engineers are merely Engineers and believed they were creating machines who would fit their design preference and the reason they redacted us or were going to, is we did not confirm to their needs having moved towards a creative creationist view and determined the Engineers were more than Engineers and indeed Gods. How appalling and nihilistic and genuinely dark that view would have been however we know at the time of that script Ridley had a twist above that, based on his remarks in Autumn 2015.
How much more interesting finding out your answer which builds naturally on the narrative set up in Prometheus than -- yawn David created a protomorph which will be evolved in the next film to a xenomorph which will get out of hand and then either he or a retributive Engineer will set off to Earth with Eggs. I really do not see that as an all embracing Saga it is a reduction over about 30 years. Incidentally Trilogy in the modern world suggests three related films indeed in the case of LOTR its one story in three acts. If you call something a trilogy in cinema these days people will think Star Wars where the narrative is continuous across the entire story. It never goes into start again mode with a new set of characters.
I have made this point elsewhere but Awakening will waste another hour building characters... which will all die how on earth can you keep on repeating this stuff and carry an audience with you or more to the point grow the audience ? If Awakening reveals as little as Covenant we will be shouting Alien Engineers from the roof tops.
Your post, which is full of well thought out context on the meaning of the Prometheus mythos, which Elizabeth and the audience did not have answers to, but would have been confirmed in a Prometheus sequel. Instead you have reminded me in place of the audacious thinking you display we receive a retread with confusion which actually reminds me what meagre fair this routine entertaining film offers.
It's a grower. I enjoy more after each viewing.
Wren- "It" has some connective difficulties. A kind of low level emotional autism. Certain reactions...
It seems that I would fail a reverse Voigt-Kampff test.
"(...) the idea, that the engineers are extinct and several of their creations followd their track and try to walk in their footsteps, become creators themselfs.."
That's a very, very interesting idea.
From this perspective, the people from Planet 4 could be even humanoids in some kind of religious devotion to their Creators, trying to walk their footsteps, as you said. The Juggernaut in which David arrives would be to them almost like some kind of Jesus's second arrival. And indeed, with it comes the apocalypse.
Kinda reminds me of the "Byrus" from dreamcatcher
http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Byrus
I wonder what he means in his notes when he says "...although like many species on this planet, the phyla seem more indistinct and the life forms more adaptable. Despite being based in an ancient and robust core code."
"Dr. Shaw and Dr. Holloway were on their way to obtaining everything they ever dreamed of...well, almost."
Just watched Prometheus for the first time after Covenant's release, and just realized that seeing Shaw there will never be the same... that weird feeling towards her, by knowing what a fate is waiting...
Great images as always, Ingeniero.
I've read in a few other topics about the thoughts on the black eyes. It was suggested that the engineers in Prometheus were possibly thousands+ years older than the Planet 4 engineers. Perhaps over the amount of time and evolution, the black eyes transitioned to human eyes.
I was thinking that maybe the space-faring engineers that seed planets have the black eyes due to evolution in space, while the engineers that stayed on Planet 4 and evolved there developed a more terrestrial-suited eye/vision type.
@daliens - I can do that, as Alien 3 seemed more in line with the end of Alien, than Aliens? Alien could have even been Alien 2 & just skipped over Aliens?
One of the many awe-inspiring visuals in Prometheus! It is a modern sci-fi horror classic!!!
Do a lot of the buildings in the first pics from the OP have gold structures on top of them? Can't tell if it's the image or reflective gold, but if so, maybe a source for solar power. I know it's been mentioned in many other topics, but I didn't notice as much gold in other pics.
I like the beat of the song but can't stand the new cool thing of mumbling random ad lib words during the chorus and intro. Not that I don't listen to it in the car with my subs up though. This is a funny/cool video lol.
I know it is just a sketch, but does anyone else think this Engineer has quite a lot less brain matter than you would expect?
It gets me all the time!!! And, mind you, I just saw them again yesterday. What a thrill!
Gigering disturbing - in every sense of the word...
Super creepy looking. I wonder if itdoes just eat wheat, or waits for something else to come by that eats wheat. This one almost looks like it could have been a concept for the alien in the movie Life. It had a transparent leafy look to it.
Cool pics, this one kind of reminds me of the Nazca lines on earth.
CGI fits the bill - no more, no less.
It's like something needs salting, but you're AGAINST SALT, so you just WON'T TAKE IT!!! :)
Lol, ok red0guy@gmail.com , you're entitled to your opinion. Aliens 3 was shocking to me. Although, I really couldn't care less about Hicks, Newt or Ripley. They were not particularly sympathetic or compelling characters to me.
It's Bishop's gruesome demise that grips me.
I liked Shaw's death. Shaw was a complex and sympathetic character so I like that she was denied the answers she sought and that she was used as a tool to implement horrors she would never have condoned.
To me that's chilling and that's what I like to see in a horror movie.
I agree.
My first time with A:C was lame due to the projector operator (I noticed it was going to be very DARK during the trailers) But I loved it and, sure, my second at home became gorgeous as ever, and not THAT DARK :)
Give me a break. I watched in the last week all the 4 original Alien movies. 3 was not that shocking. Newt and Hicks died painlessly in their sleep while Ripley had a heroes that. That was no where near as killing a main by having them vivisected (as is the case in the novelization) after doing the humane thing. And we know better, it was more about the money...
From when horror life-is-f***ed-up-and-then-everyone-dies-unceremoniously genre. Maybe cheap millennial shit like Saw or Hostel or some zombie crap. Can't have something more original something more insightful? Only visceral crap for our lizard brain?
The only thing that this movie (AC) made me feel was disgust which I would have rather avoid. So yeah, don't count me in for another one.
Guys, awesome!
Purvis, Clemens, The Thing (whatever "he" was), Dillon (Charles S. Dutton) and, yes, Daniels, Hicks, Shaw, Janek (my favorite hugging pal), Hudson, Kane...
We cared so much about them, we sympathized with them, somehow. And they had to go.
Then, there comes @VivisectedEngineer - and I'll stick to it - "
To all those asking why Shaw had to die...
It's because it's HORROR! We're supposed to have a love/hate relationship with it. We're supposed to be HORRIFIED. It's supposed to be f***ed up."
And, then, just before I go back to "Apocalypse Now" and the famous Cel Kurts' saying: "The horror, the horror", I think...
"We need this horrifying mourning. Otherwise, we would be watching 'The Love Boat' or the kind."
VivisectedEngineer look at David when he cuts his hair. And when he gets out of the cathedral as Walter I see clearly genius in there, both from Fassbender and Ridley Scott.
Cerulean Blue I feel the same, still I like Alien 3 from the Alien sequels. The rest are like heresies.
Guys, I will just go ahead & say it, I do not care to see any Alien installment, not directed by the Knights Bachelor aka Sir Ridley Scott. It is his creation & if he chooses to be David about it, so be it. I do not care for any of the sequels, though I absolutely adore the prequels! This has been my rant in Cerulean Blue! ;)
Agreed, I like it better than after my first viewing, as I can now keep my personal agenda out of the way & enjoy it for what it is. An Alien movie installment is better than not getting another one at all?
Wow, incredible! You know that part of your mind that generates nightmares? I think David's entire brain is made out of that.
I love these, so much creativity has gone into Covenant, just wonderful.
