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That's really interesting. Actually, I just watched Covenant last night, and I kept thinking...I really liked the way Daniels spoke. Her and Ferris.
They both sounded so much more like real, believable people. I like how she pronounces Covenant as "Cov'nant".
I mean...it just sounds real. It seems like there's a really limited array of dialects that people in Hollywood usually speak with, and they all either speak like college professors or stereotypical hicks.
Daniels and Ferris just talk like normal people with their own distinct mannerisms, who sound like they could be your own coworkers.
Well Elizabeth Shaw of course. We invested one entire movie on her and her search for answers, plus 5 long years of theorizing.
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Why? (says Ripley)
Gediman: OH. MY. GOD...
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dk, Lawrence of Arabia and I decided it was whispering to Starlogger" in another thread XD
ref: Best Xeno Death in the franchise
I'll tell you who I wouldn't choose. Bishop. You know why? Because Bishop is just fine, Alien 3 never happened and I refuse to believe otherwise.
However, if I were present following Bishop's tortured reactivation in Alien 3, I would not have said goodbye to him. I would have tried to help him regain his will to live.
Ripley's matter-of-fact, unsympathetic reaction to his plight made it impossible for me to feel anything more then a sense of karmic satisfaction, when she threw herself into the incinerator as Bishop's likeness looked on.
Bishop deserved to, AT LEAST ONCE IN HIS LIFE, have someone acknowledge his worth. He didn't deserve to be perpetually treated like a glorified toaster and then eventually come to accept the idea himself. In Aliens he'd had a sense of self preservation (to which no one else was sympathetic).
In Alien 3 he'd been catastrophically injured and his efforts to protect his human companions had been plenarily thwarted. Understandably he was in immense physical and psychological pain. But, his failure wasn't his fault and his pain could have been temporary. He could have been made useful and happy again. Regardless of not being top-of-the-line.
You can't rather be nothing. If you're nothing you don't know you're nothing. There's no satisfaction or relief in being nothing. There is no experience of being nothing.
And Bishop was a great something.
Actually...he still is a great something. I refused to believe otherwise. BISHOP IS JUST FINE!
IRaptus That was horrible- it even sounded like it was screaming "Ripley!"
What about this little fella ^ :(
Clemens. Sad end to a sad life :(
Capt Torgo A bit OT, but I have noticed little by little over time, nods are being given to Alien 3 around here. Nice!
Hudson and Kane......gone too soon..thanks for the memories
I'll hug who I think the best acting job in Alien Franchise is Charles Dutton in A3. He just bent that role to epicness with tone and emotion. Kudos to David Fincher for giving religion a respectful treatment, imo.
@dk,
"Pitch Black" and "Jaws" - you nailed it!
The little guy with eyes I can see as an Easter Egg to pay homage to the 'visitor' on the Nostromo med lab TV monitor that Ashe is looking at through the microscope when Ripley comes in to interrogate him. Wheat critter may be more realistic than ai sentient flying spore motes jellyfish but idk. Bugs can or do often spook the snot out of me when they surprise you/web so that's pretty evil cricket to crawl inside your orifice or bite ya.
It has to be in the writing, maybe egos at the studio or finding that talented writer is just too difficult. The prequels have good ideas but there are just too many cooks in the kitchen. Great cooks together can't make a great meal if they're not unified. Alien 1 just seems so solid and so does A2, like the dialogue is just so real and believable. It must be pride and this lust to go after pet project ideas like Scott is all about 'style' to me or 'his' narrative. Which many of that is kosher I just diabolically rage hate most of his characters and their dialogue. Jordan Peele could do it comparable to the first two I bet or Denny V. if they assembled a cohesive team w liberty from Fox to pursue something original or wrap things up. Rambling on now but......the talent is out there it's just finding and nurturing it into something special. The sky is the limit
Ingeniero It sounds like sterile protocols were not followed....
Wow- those images are amazing! The little bugger reminds me a bit of the worm from Dune and I think I see an inner jaw too.
ATI - While that is a possibility I am willing to entertain, I am inclined to be dubious! ;)
Something Real - It is possible that he was a good guy. :) He liked consuming fields of wheat, but that's all. :)
ATI - Hahaha! While I am typically opposed to the extinction of a species, I believe I can make an exception for that little beast! :)
Ingeniero - You are welcome.
Yes, he likes putting everything there. :)
Thank you for the link and images Ati.
The collection of artwork on the page referenced above is truly amazing.
Something Real - :D
Don't worry. They lived on Planet 4, but David's actions helped them become extinct. :)
We missed out on the Dane Hallett plans for Dr. Shaw Ati. Another great collection for us to obsess on. Good work and thank you again for these.
Ah, awesome, visit his facebook page, look at his Alien Covenant album, you'll find more.
Yes dk. I wanted a slice of Engineer architecture.
The pyramids and internal shots of the juggernaut on LV-223 are missing though (will have those soon).
ATI - Oh! This is quite excellent! I shall now never walk amongst wheat again! ;)
SCORPIOSTAR - Hicks! :)
ALII81 - The beautiful dream and the horrible nightmare - both last within our memories and can not be replaced. :)
My deepest gratitude Ati. The collection of images from Dane Hallett is amazing. Thank you so much again Ati. You are wonderful.
I still think the franchise could be good if it forged ahead after Resurrection. To me, it doesn't have to be Ridley Scott.
Im probably going to cop it for this, but so is James Cameron's Aliens. Aliens is just a Master Class of a different kind. As a fullbore heroic action film of the 80s variety it is full of guns & explosions, over-the-top bravado, patriotism and one-liners. And the films owns that era of cinematic style. We might not all enjoy it, especially the more bug-like xeno's in it, but its still a great addition to the Alien franchise and is a logical progression for the Ripley story arc.
The biggest things Aliens got right was to massively expand its scope and universe from the claustrophobic confines of a stalk-and-kill creature feature film. Cameron grabbed it by the balls and opened up a whole new environment.
Look at the Predator franchise. It is stunted and has always struggled because no-one has taken the risk of expanding the Yautja premise. Every film in that franchise re-hashes the exact same premise.
Im full of rants today lol
Something Real My OP was intentionally a bit ambiguous. As stated, we are among friends- we like what we like and that is all.
DK - Hahaha! Excellent! I wish you gentlmen all the best of luck in deducing whether or not Ms. Vickers is artificial. However, as I am woman, I shall stick with my masculine machines! :)
Something Real ah- why not? Others are prepping to find out once and for all if Vickers is indeed human so why not!
DK - Hmm...this is a quite difficult decision! On the one hand, Bishop has an extremely excellent and brave personality. On the other hand, David - when he is well-groomed and not going mad from his own sentience - is a fetching man! Could I perhaps have David with Bishop's personality matrix? :)
Well there was a chestburster reference in Shrek 2 when Puss was attacking Shrek...
For instance, I thought Pitch Black was excellent on its own and got bogged down with Chronicles. For that matter, Jaws was great and became a laughing stock with its sequels.
It certainly is a cinematic Master Class!! A well-paced suspense building narrative full of Sci-fi lore and ambiguous mystery. An A class creature feature that does it right. Gives you just enough of a glimpse of the Xeno, and lets your imagination do the rest.
Brilliant
