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BigDave

I agree 110%, I remember being so excited when the AVP movie was announced back in the day. But was very disappointed after watching the end product. 

Ha Ha.......

Yeah to be FAIR something similar to THIS VIDEO GAME is WHAT the AVP Movie should have done..... SET in the TIME-LINE like between a 2150-2250.

I Actually think a REBOOT of the AVP Franchise (Theatrical) thats SET after ALIENS or like the Video Games, is the SAFEST OPTION for DISNEY to make Money from ALIEN/PREDATOR Franchises..... IF its done Right!

It does-not even have to Connect to ALIEN/ALIENS... it can be a Alternative Canon where Xenomorphs and Predators are Encountered, but their First Encounter/Origins does-not have to be as we saw with Predator or Alien etc.... but you have to have it SET in the Future in Space like say HOW ADVANCED we see Mankind are in say ALIENS.

Sorry for being OFF TOPIC.... i was just saying that the Video Games for the Most Part are Good and this Game from 2001 is a FINE EXAMPLE and a Influence that they should have looked at for the Eventual AVP Movie..... but ALAS!

Certainly the Human Impact is KEY.......

If you had some say Colonial Marines or the Sort who have Suffered Injuries and some are getting OLD... (in their 50's) if you had them SIGNED UP for a Chance to BECOME a Part of a Elite Military Unit... where they would be TOLD they can have their Ailments Fixed.....  Oh so you Private had Lost your Legs... well we can GIVE YOU some Legs, make you Better than you WAS... but you have to do a TOUR of Duty for us.... Serve us for 5-10 Years and we will FIX YOU FIRST!

So we can look at it as a MORE ADVANCED Version of the 6 Million Dollar Man, like a Robocop......  Every One who Signs up get NEW ARMS/LEGS they get Enhanced Sight  and Hearing and other UPGRADES....

They are like Super Human!

But then they DISCOVER they are either being CONED... they are Expected to Serve Beyond the Time they Thought or they are SENT on Missions that they then TOTALLY Disagree with as they are NOT MORAL!

But any Protest is MET with the Fact the Company can Dis-activate all the UPGRADES....  your Basically left with Arms/Legs you cant MOVE/USE, your Hearing and Sight goes..... 

They then Discover that as Cyborgs they Actually have as MUCH FREEDOM as a Synthetic Robot.... they DO as they are TOLD... or they become Imprisoned in a Shell that Can-not go and Move or See or Hear... a Nightmare... where they could SCREAM! but NO-ONE would Hear them as they get LOCKED AWAY in a POUND or something...

UNTIL they Submit to Serve and get Re-Activated.

But this Basically is Universal Solider meets Robocop... but you can be SURE that the Shady W-Y or/and USM have Conducted Similar in the Past/Future.

Again this is ANOTHER STORY/PLOT that you could TELL in a Anthology Series (One Season) which is WHAT i think the Franchise should do (become a Anthology Series a bit like American Horror Story).

I would RATHER had seen a ANTHOLOGY Series like say AMERICAN HORROR STORY.... now i dont mean they Re-Use the Cast...

Just you have a TV Series thats SET in a Time-Line it can have Flash Backs, and its SET about a Certain Aspect thats Connected to the Franchise.

The Next Season you CHANGE where it is SET and the TIME-LINE  bit and the PLOT, (it does NOT have to be about the same as the 1st Season) but you have some Elements of the Plot that Connect to each Series/Season like you have with AHS.

You see there are MANY ELEMENTS to the Franchise beside those Eggs, Queen etc etc.... and Ripley.  But its WHAT IF some Fans or a MASS are Expecting the Series to Revolve around the Xenomorph and then more so Each Season.

I think RS will be Proven Right... that IF we go the Route of Showing the Xenomorph over and over, then WHAT do you do when it gets STALE and i think it could well get STALE/OVERCOOKED.

By that i DONT want to see the Xenomorph/Franchise become something of a MESS/JOKE like the Terminator Franchise has become... and Predator is CLOSE after the AWFUL Last Outing!

RS wanted to Explore things like the Company, the Founder and Agenda, and to Touch on the Synthetics Origins etc... and the BIG ONE... to look at the Space Jockey and Expand the PLOT on WHO they are....

Where the Xeno was merely just a Bio-Weapon they Created (Evolved from something they Created) and they INTENDED to USE it on US...... RS felt the Bigger Question is WHY?

But i dont think the TV Series will Touch on the Prequels much... it seems it COULD be about World Building well the Start of that RACE to Exploit Space and other Worlds..

But it will MAINLY be about HOW we have Companies and Rich Guys who look to EXPLOIT the Common Person and have some People who have NOT MUCH going for them Believe they have been GIVEN a OPPORTUNITY.... but they are Merely going to be Exploited...

The Xenomorph will come into PLAY....

But i also think it will look at the Advancement of A.I and Robots and Synthetics and the POTENTIAL PIT FALL of Creating such things.... but i know thats NOT to everyone's Cuppa Tea.... but i think it Depends on HOW MUCH or LITTLE like Emphasis is Placed on them....

The MAIN thing has to be about Characters, who the Average Joe can Connect with and the Danger and Exploitation they Find themselves in...... People like we saw with the CREW of the Nostromo.... People like say the Hadleys Hope Colonist.

Not to say it has to be about THEM... oh NO it has to NOT be about them but Similar..... and so Basically some Working Class People and Families maybe Who are THINKING they are being Tasked with a Opportunity to Benefit themselves... and are TOTALLY like Unaware of the TERROR they will Face... while someone at the TOP... Powers that Be... will Learn about this but see it as a Opportunity to Exploit more Common People for their Greed/Gain!

I just DONT think you should have such a STORY to be SET ON EARTH.... or SET prior to ALIEN... and also... WHY should the Threat/Terror always be the Xenomorph?

Yeah i guess TIME will TELL...

I suspect it will take Elements from the Prequels and Franchise and Put a Different Spin on them, Introduce them maybe in a Different Way?  I just Suspect it would be kind of a RETCON.

Bit like with AC i think some of the Marketing for Prometheus (the Weyland Industries Website) with its Details and Time-Line i think that SOME of this had been CHANGED to FIT with Alien Covenant and thats WHY the Prometheus Viral Website was taken DOWN.

If the TV Series would USE the Ted Talk 2023 with Peter Weyland as Canon, then THIS does take Place in the NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE.... If we look at AC the Prologue then Guy Pearce was 49 when he Shot that Scene.... going by the Prometheus Viral Site for Peter Weyland he was Born in 1990 and so the Alien Covenant Prologue could be SAY in the Year 2039 (he would have been about 33 in the Ted Talk but Guy Pearce was about 45 when he did that Scene).

We do-not know if the TV Series will TOUCH on the Weyland Company and Peter Weyland at all?  If the Activation of David (Prologue) was say around 2040... i do SUSPECT the TV Series will IN PART be SET in and around 2040-2050.....

The Biggest Issue for me is that a TV Series set say around 2050 some 70+ Years before ALIEN and will Introduce us to a Xenomorph and ON EARTH... this is Worrying for me.

I think you have to TRY and do something NEW with the Xenomorph because lets FACE IT...

In ALIEN he was just a Alien/Space Jason Voorhees (The DC made it have a Purpose).  In ALIENS what we had was Basically a Bi-Pedal Alien Insect like Hive Monster... like HOW a Bee, Ant, Wasp and Termites would Operate but more Deadly and Intelligent....  but NOT LIKELY to be Creating their Own Tech and Leaving LV-426.

I dont think the Prequels had Dis-credited it too much... it was something more FERAL and Aggressive, it NEVER QUITE showed the Level of Intelligence that we saw in Alien/Aliens.

some Fans may have been Disappointed the Xenomorph was the Result of a Experiment on some Biological Warfare... but THIS is HOW we had RS see it for MANY YEARS....

His Stance Changed to from being a Engineered Killing Machine, to something that EVOLVED from the Black Goo Pathogen....... then we saw this Changed to it being a Engineered Experiment by a Android David... which i think its ONE of the Biggest Problems that Fans had with Alien Covenant.

So it will be Interesting to see HOW the TV Series will Address the Xenomorph Origin, and WHEN/HOW/WHERE to they Discover it and HOW/IF its Connected to the ONE in ALIEN/ALIENS or from Alien Covenant.

It will be Interesting to see IF we have any Mention or Connection to the Engineers and IF this will be 100% Canon to the Prequels or IF they may Alter the Story/Plot a Little.

Regarding the Action and Special Effects... it seems to be Implied we will have a Slow Burner... before we then GET INTO some Serious Action and Effects.  The Slow Burner would ALLOW for some Character Development as you dont have to RUSH or be Forced into making Characters Work within the Constraints of 2 Hours.

"To me alien means unknown, and that also includes unknown worlds"

Exactly i think that having a TV Series that will Introduce the Xenomorph thats SET both Prior to 2080 and on Earth could be a MISTAKE!

Good episode.

Agree with the Chad name.....Not a name I'd expect 200 years in the future!

I feel better about Hawley now...But they didn't talk about their feelings on the TV series set in the 21st century and on Earth. ( of course, waiting for the show to be released, then commenting is what they shoul do.....but that's boring! lol!)

Sorry I should have clarified its the anniversary of the video game AVP2 and not AVPR

BD: Oops, wrong thread. That was a reply to the thread Where to go next, or something similar. How much it will respect the prequels seems to me to depend on if there is anything to find in the prequels. If I would make the TV-series, that's how I would think, not sure how those on Disney will look at it.

The ancient threat seems interesting to me. Yeah the AI (androids) could be interesting but it depends on how you do the characters and if they will not be what the story is about.

I think that the should uplift the Xeno instead of reducing it like Ridley did. Not to say that the Xeno is what it should be about but he disrespected it in the prequels and focusing a lot on what wasn't interesting (androids) or giving it too much of a role is a better way of putting it. Say what you will about Aliens but to me there is no competition between the prequels and Aliens because it's simply better (except for maybe how it looks).

You mention what JC saw the Xeno as, maybe there is a way to combine the Ridley idea and what Cameron wanted? At least Cameron didn't consider it being a result of a dumb robot.

You mention it being action-centered. I don't mind slow paced movies to a point. There is no need to just have action scenes, there is a need for a mix but AC was too slow. My suggestion is to have it faster than AC, but slower than Aliens. Special effects is nice but that's far from what I would like to see in a TV-show or movies. Give me a good story and well-made characters and I'm fine.

Not too sure if it's a good idea to have it on earth but if there's a way to deal with it then maybe. To me alien means unknown, and that also includes unknown worlds. We'll see how it turns out but I'm a bit sceptical.

Maybe, it depends on how it's done. To be honest I'm not too much well-read about the differences between those kinds of things. I guess that I know fairly well what the difference is between a robot and an android though. Keep it about how humans react to it because it's about the human journey, but I'm not against having that in the alien-franchise.

I immediately thought of AVPR, because that's AVP 2 movie-wise. Fortunately for me I continued reading your post, so I saved myself from a complete shock. :D

Indeed such a Fantastic Video Game for its Time....

I think that Call is a Interesting Character... a Artificial Being that is Created by Synthetics, its HARD to say if Call is more Organic than the Synthetics.

When we look at Walter he seems to be more Organic than Bishop and Ash, who seem to be more like David.

Call does seem to be more Sentient/Free-Will than Bishop, Ash and Walter but with David i think he is 100% a Totally Sentient Being with FREE-WILL.

The Neomorphs came about from the Puff Balls (kind of Spore/Fungi) the LIKELY Origin of them is some of the BLACK GOO had leaked from a URN after the CRASH and had came into Contact with some Fungi/Spore or Mold and EVOLVED them to become a Hybrid Spore that Creates the Neomorphs.

We dont know HOW the Neomorph would Procreate what we do see is the Neomorph and Xenomorph in Alien Covenant seemed VERY DRIVEN by Instinct and were VERY Aggressive.

I am NOT sure we would have seen the Neomorph again it DEPENDED on WHERE we would see Ridley  Scott take us in the Sequels, the Xenomorph would have Appeared again... and i SUSPECT that Ridley Scott would have SHOWN us the Egg Morph Method of Procreation.

I think the WHITE SPIKE is more Deadly than the Xenomorph and Neomorph. To me the Xenomorphs method of Procreation is WHAT is the Horrific Part about it.  And i mean the Eggs/Contents rather than the QUEEN.... thats NOT to HATE on HER..... as SHE would KICK the White Spikes Ass for sure.

What does this have to do with ALIEN? Post this on the MCU page

I don't think we have seen the full capability of the neomorph yet, they are still shrouded in mystery. Like how do they reproduce those tiny egg sacks? Are they pack hunters, do they have a hive structure like their xenomorph cousins?

BigDave

Great points.

"WHAT IF.... a Synthetic Body and Brain was so ADVANCED you could Transfer a Humans Consciousness, Emotions and SOUL if you would into that Synthetic Brain/Body...."

This reminds me of the classic anime movie Ghost in the Shell (1995) and the classic anime series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 

I think this is a Interesting Topic....

In Context to the Franchise we have to REMEMBER we are talking about Science Fiction and SET in the Future, i think that Cybernetic Parts would be something we would SEE in REALITY we already have such NOW, but its NOT as Advanced as we have seen in SCI-FI but we would ONE-DAY reach that Level.

A LOT of Space Sci-Fi have Similar things and so Cybernetic Components to a Human would NOT be that ALIEN to the Franchise, as Technology Advances then YES surely we could have Cybernetic Enhanced Humans.

People who have LOST a LIMB or a EYE and have Cybernetic (Synthetic) Replacements would NOT be out of Place within the ALIEN  Franchise.

To get to the LEVEL that we have with Arnaud Eisenberg would be more complicated but its NOT BEYOND the Realms of Science when we look at Sci-Fi.

If we take ROBOCOP then the Original was a Cyborg... but in the Reboot they have MUCH MORE of their Body as Cybernetic/Synthetic (Artificial) all that was Organic in the Reboot was the BRAIN, HEART, LUNGS and Parts of the Nervous System... with Arnaud Eisenberg he was just a Organic Brain in a Completely Synthetic Body.  Should this be something we should-not or could-not see in the ALIEN Franchise?

I cant see WHY NOT.

Terminators are well just SKINJOBS  i would not say they were that much of a Cyborg.

The Interesting thing with a CYBORG that has ONLY the Brain as Organic is HOW does this Interface with the Synthetic Components, you would have to have some kind of IC/Computer/Software as a Bridge.... and so WHAT is Interesting and HORRIFIC... is IF that Software/Computer Component is HACKED so that your Brain has NO-CONTROL over the Body, Imagine being ONLY a Brain in a Body you have NO-CONTROL OVER!

It would be WORSE than being Paralyzed from the Neck Down.... because WHAT IF that Body is doing things that YOU DO NOT LIKE or WISH to do?

A Human Brain that is IN FULL CONTROL of its Synthetic Components and Actions would NOT be Classed as a ROBOT.. they would be Considered a Human to a Large Degree.

But HERE is a FLIP-SIDE Question......

WHAT IF.... a Synthetic Body and Brain was so ADVANCED you could Transfer a Humans Consciousness, Emotions and SOUL if you would into that Synthetic Brain/Body....

Would you be Considered a Human? would you have the same RIGHTS as a Human?  I am sure a Human Brain within a Synthetic Body would, but a Human Soul thats Contained in a A.I/Brain thats a Interesting thing to Ponder.

IF we look at Military Application then YES you would think in the FUTURE and so INDEED with Sci-Fi you would look at HOW you can Enhance a Human as a Combat Operative.  I think that YES that Autonomous Robots or Synthetics would make GOOD MILITARY Troops.... the Lack of Control could be a Worry if they are Autonomous, and IF they are Very Autonomous and become Sentient that would be a MASSIVE PROBLEM.

And do to Enhance your Troops with Cybernetics would make more Sense, and so YES i think there is ROOM to have Cyborgs within the Franchise.

And so the Question i Raised could be Interesting in another way, BECAUSE i think the Future of Robotics and Military would more likely be a Synthetic/Robot/Machine that are Remote Controlled by a Human so it would be say like AVATAR but the Avatars are Synthetic/Robotic Machines rather than Cloned Alien Species.

I know that may seem OFF-TOPIC but i was just looking at it as IF you was to PUT a Human Brain into a Synthetic Body, i think the BETTER THING to do from the Perspective of those WISHING to do this would be to have a Advanced A.I that cane be Interfaced with like we see in AVATAR... or where you Transcend your Memory, Emotions and Self Consciousness into the Robot/Synthetic.

But thats NOT to say you would NOT go and have Cyborgs... like a Army of Robocops etc... so YES i think that its LIKELY we could have CYBORGS within the Franchise.

But there is a huge difference between a cyborg and a synthetic/android/robot/artifical person.

The former is born human that later gets robotical parts added on them be that an artifical spine, limb or even entire body...as long as they keep their brain/soul/consciousness human

The later is constructed at a factory. IIRC Bishop called himself an artificial person, not a cyborg. Unless you meant the T-800 from Terminator 2, who does refer to himself as a cyborg but he is more of a reverse cyborg since the T-800 is a regular robot covered in organic skin.

I think if they included cyborgs in canon, they would have a good opportunity to clarify the difference

At the end of Aliens, if Bishop divulged he was a cyborg, I don't think it would have made a difference to the audience. Cyborg, synthetic, robot, mechanical man, probably be lumped into one. Probably just confuse them.

Alien: Project Syborg.

Dark Horse Comics 1993

A general clones his troops and uses the brains of each to fuel his Super Soldiers Cyborgs.

In order for the SSC's to take orders, they are promised their brains will be returned to their cloned bodies and then allowed to live a peaceful life.

At the end of the story, it is revealed the general used the clone bodies as hosts for the xenomorph species. All the promised clone bodies were destroyed. There are thousands of surviving syborgs left without bodies. Unable to maintain their synthetic bodies they are slowly dying.

They seek revenge on the military.

To be continued....

well Ash and Bishop weren't completely human-like since they still had limited emotional range.

David was a prototype model but even David wasn't completely human-like

Call was the most human-like of the synthetics but she was from the distant future compared to Ash, Bishop and David.

Edit: I just remembered Vassili Rykov from AVP2 is a partial cyborg since he has a synthetic spine

I don't know...The synthetics in the Alien verse pretty much act like cyborgs. Bishop, Call, David, Ash all act very human.

I could see some sci-fi angles though:

Clone the best soldiers, then remove their brains and install them in cyborgs.... With a guarantee that the government will return their brains to their cloned bodies after their tour of duty.

Offer an old man/woman (Ripley) a new lease on life? 

"similar to the Zerg, Tyrranid, and the Flood"

I am not sure we will EVER see the Xenomorph in this way, maybe they could do, but i DOUBT the TV Series would touch upon this.....  I think SHOULD they take such a Route you have to be Careful.... because making them like the TYRANIDS would Evolve them but you also could END UP with them being just like Starship Troopers... if its DONE in a Interesting way and Executed Well... maybe it could Work?

If its NOT Executed Well or done in a Interesting way then i think we could have something that could be a BIT too Comic like...... but saying that there is a MARKET for that.

so it depends on WHAT kind of Market they want to go for, and with DISNEY at the Helm you would think there is more Chance of seeing the Xenomorph Expanded in such a way than there would have been UNDER 20TH CENTURY FOX.

Well in just over 6 Months (Alien Day 2022) i think we may have a BETTER IDEA about where the TV Show and Future of the Franchise will be Heading.

I have NOTICED that some Fans are Hopeful it will SHOW US something about Ripley's History.... her Parents? Grand Parents?  And that we will see a QUEEN.

I think anyone Expecting either are IN for a Disappointment.

The Prequels had Placed the Xenomorph as NOT being a MAIN ASPECT... for it is just a Creation by someone that is INTENDED to Destroy and Cause Horror to Mankind... as RS felt the more IMPORTANT thing was to LOOK at WHO would Create such a thing and WHY?

But before the Prequels we know Ridley Scott saw the Xenomorph as merely being some Organism Created to be used as Bio-logical Warfare.

Some Fans are more a FAN of what JC had in MIND which would be the Xenomorph are a Alien Species that Inhabit a World that the Space Jockey her merely came Across and Attempted to TAKE AWAY and USE for some Nefarious Purpose but they FELL VICTIM to the Xenomorph just as the W-Y (and USM) keep doing in the Franchise.

As to HOW and WHAT the TV Series will SHOW about the Xenomorph is UNCLEAR... but i Suspect it will be SHOWN to be a Organism that the Space Jockey/Engineers had Created or that had EVOLVED from their Experiments....

Will it INDICATE that the Xenomorph is a Ancient Species? who knows... as FAR as being something that was NOT CREATED... i am NOT sure....  I Suspect we are more likely to FOLLOW something similar to Prometheus/Alien Covenant.

Only it may Indicate the Xenomorph that is Encountered will OUT DATE the One from the Prequels and the Franchise.

“To get from A-Z you do-not have to GO were David is going!”

Not sure Thoughts_Dreams if you was meant to Comment on another Thread?  As i dont Recall mentioning this on this Topic.

In Context to the TV Series... i Wonder as to HOW MUCH they are going to Respect the Prequels?  Because it seems that THIS TV SHOW will be SET prior to the Prequels... but it could be SET AFTER the Prologue between Weyland and David.

The Premise seems to be that it would ATTEMPT to Address the GULF between the Mega Rich Corps, and the Common Working Class and to SHOW that the Rich Guys dont GIVE TWO HOOTS about the Lower Class....

It will also DEAL with TWO THREATS.....

One from the FUTURE (A.I) and One from the Ancient Past (Engineers? Xenomorph?).

So as it seems likely that the TV Show will be in the Time-Line of 25-50 Years from the TED TALK 2023 we do-not know HOW MUCH will be about David and Peter Weyland.... they may CAST NEW Actors or they may ONLY have a Few Mentions of them.... or they MAY even NOT Reference them at all.

All we can be SURE about is that it will Reference A.I as a Problem/Threat, and then EVENTUALLY we will Slowly get to Face the Xenomorph......

And that the TV Show will be VERY Action Orientated. And it Promises to Deliver some Good Special Effects.

Oh and that it will be SET in the NOT too DISTANT Future and Prior to the Prequels.... and a Majority of it will take PLACE on Earth....

THIS is my Concern.... Xenomorphs and Engineers on Earth like Prior to 2180 never-mind prior to 2090 would be well SILLY as it SURELY will Conflict the Franchise... which is WHY i Suspect it may be a SOFT REBOOT.

MonsterZero

The earlier alien comics would be strongly connected to the Earth War series and mention by other characters how the earth was slowly brought back under human control. 

New technologies were developed to deal with the xenomorphs, (PowerArmor, Plasma Weapons, and Flying APCs) however the xenomorphs put up a heavy resistance so humanity lost a lot of people in their efforts to reclaim earth; it took them roughly 5 years.

 That being said, a reboot if done right could implement things from extracanonical sources into its own canon. I would like to see the xenomorphs becoming more of a cosmic horror entity that slowly becomes dangerous the larger and more numerous their hives become (similar to the Zerg, Tyrranid, and the Flood)

"At this point a re-boot might be better than to try to solve the mess that it has become"

A reboot would help however a reboot has the danger of not being as good as the original movie like this early script from Disney of a Ripley-free Reboot where the main character forget her name will capture a facehugger, incubate it and grow a human-loyal xenomorph to fight "evil" xenomorphs

“To get from A-Z you do-not have to GO were David is going!”

OK but you don't need to feature that a lot, maybe keep some minutes of it in the movie but then focus on more interesting things. What Alan Dean Foster did is something that I find more interesting than what we saw on the screen. Frankly at this point I don't give a damn about David, it might sound harsh, and I don't want to disrespect those that care about it, but I just don't find it interesting.

There is a lot that the prequels did wrong, mainly poorly written and or executed characters and have the android responsible for the xeno. These are just two things, but they affect the movie a lot. At this point a re-boot might be better than to try to solve the mess that it has become, because the mess is just too much unless something really great and unknown happens.

“... and RS has said that it has some EVOLVING to do....” I don't think that he should have anything to do with the story because he is involved with that, then we’ll probably get another David-movie since that seems to be his interest. AC and RBW seems to show that's his interest, but it's not mine. Unfortunately with him involved it's very likely that we'll get something that I'll consider a huge disappointment. “... then GO LOOK for David..…” Let them find him early in the movie, kill him off, and then focus on more interesting things. Keep him as a cameo, if at all. I had enough of David at the end of Covenant. The Engineers keep looking for him, find him through some locating system, go there and battle him and his monsters kill him fairly fast, so we get that out of the way. They take some eggs and upgrade them. By doing this, you get rid of the David-problem and can maybe make a better movie. 

“We know the FATE of ONE such Mission..…”

Yeah but there could be a lot of interesting things going on between when they make the eggs and when the derelict crashes. I'm not sure what that could be, but there could be something interesting with some good writing and some twists. I hope that they won't write it in a way that is expected.

“Where were these other Ships going?  Did they MAKE their Mission?”

You could have them going to different places and then focus on one mission but don't show how it ended. This could introduce some other well-needed mystery. It could show us some interesting world-building, not that we haven't had that this far in the prequels but anyway. We still have the problem as with prequel one and two, you need writers that know how to do their job properly and a director who doesn't let his ego destroy it.

This could be a chance to bring in totally new things and flesh out other things. I hope that this will keep something about the Engineers because we need more about them. Have the Xeno as a cameo is a good thing, we've seen it before. My worries are about having androids and if they will focus a lot on that because if that's the case then I'm out, unless their role is heavily reduced compared to the prequels. Don't tie it to the classic characters (Ripley and so on), try something new.

"...ATTEMPT at a SOFT REBOOT of the  Franchise"

Well, this would give them a chance to show Ripley's parents and maybe tie the series to the movies. Giving birth to Ripley near the end of the series?

Or maybe Kane's father is in the TV-Series and he hates to wear masks and worries about suffocation!

Or maybe a shipyard where they are building the Nostromo.

Must be a thousand ways to link the series to Alien.

I'm okay with the TV-Series taking risks and going off canon. There are plenty of 'off the rails' novels and comics and they're pretty much ignored ......and I've done my share of ignoring them! lol!

Having the series set on another planet will always be my choice......An isolated research crew or something...Monitoring a neutron star from a safe distance....Or a black hole. Just where you'd expect to find another species monitoring also.

Earth is just so boring and already filled with horrors.....Xenos will have a hard time competing with the crazies.     OMG!! a xeno attacked and killed 5 people!! So what?... An earthquake just killed a thousand...Another disaster just killed thousands more.

I think a LOT will depend on HOW MUCH they Pay Respect to the Prequels.... they may HOWEVER just Borrow some of the Broad Plot.

AKA... The Engineers are Ancient Race who Seed/Create Life on Many Worlds.  so Maybe YES we could get Flash Back Scenes.

Looking at the Actual TV Series it does appear that we would be seeing some Internal (Engineer Aesthetic) Structure that is Partially Flooded.

With the TV Series being Focused on Earth and in the NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE..... this seems LIKELY to be ONE of the Following.

1) The Engineers had a City/Outpost that had became Flooded on Earth...... maybe this is ATLANTIS of Sorts.

2) A Engineer Ship has SOMEHOW managed to become Sunk at the Bottom of the Ocean.

I suspect (2) and that THIS is where we would Encounter our Xenomorph.   This would IMPLY that the Engineers/Space Jockey Race had TWICE Attempted and FAILED to get the JOB DONE....

The Biggest Problem i have is that having a PLOT where Xenomorphs are Encountered on Earth like WAY before ALIENS, never-mind the Prequels is a Mistake!

The ONE thing with Alien Covenant and we saw more in the Marketing Video Clip (The Last Supper) is just HOW like Blue-Collar and Unprepared this Group are for the Horror they would Face.

IF everything had GONE to PLAN and they Suffered No Effect from the Neutrino Burst, and they MADE it to Origae-6 and we had it as a TV Series then you would be able to BUILD those Characters better.

My Point here being that a PART of the Franchise is BUILDING BETTER WORLDS... but the Company would LIKELY also Discover more Earth-like Worlds.

So i say that having the PLOT take Place on such a World and in say the Time-Line either Between ALIEN and ALIENS or after ALIENS.... were we have a Colonization Mission Lands on a World and after being there for some Time, they Discover a Sunken Engineer Ship...

They go to Investigate.... and THIS is when the Xenomorph is Unleashed...

As i think its RISKY to have the PLOT on Earth and Especially if its Prior to ALIENS and more so Prior to Prometheus.. this is ASKING for Conflict/Contradiction.... but i do SUSPECT this TV Series will be a ATTEMPT at a SOFT REBOOT of the  Franchise.

Maybe they should have made the TV Series a 8-10 Part One that will TELL the TALE of Hadleys Hope?  The Story then ENDS with Newt all alone... and then we CUT TO the USS Sulaco and that ENDS this Story.

I'd start the tv-series with a Juggernaut descending on the plains of Africa, circa a million years ago. They would carry a crate with a creature ( xenomorph lite ). Releasing the creature, it immediately attempts to attack them, but the Engineers are shielded, backing down the creature turns towards the savannah. The Engineers board the ship...One stating that they will return in a hundred rotations ( 100 years ) and this will be a good test for their subject.

The creature has an indestructible device implanted that will record its every movement.

The juggernaut ascends into space as the creature rips open an antelope.

Keep in mind the original three alien comics or as I call them Earth War Trilogy came out before Alien 3 so Newt and Hicks had yet to die unless you get the post-1992 editions which renames them.

Another great way to enjoy the old alien comics is Dark Horse's omnibus collection which compiles a good portion of the comics into a single volume. I think there are at least 4 or 5 Alien Omnibus volumes

The "new EU' explanation for the chestbursters appeared in the last couple of dark horse comics before Marvel did their thing with the IP but also this piece of canon made it way into the ALIEN RPG tabletop game

 "Aliens Outbreak (Book One)"

Ahh...Makes more sense now!

I'm going to buy all this stuff and read it now. I see how they make drones now...cool.

Marvel has a lot to catching up to do!

"Facehuggers born with birth defects...unable to hug anything

Mutant xenomorphs roaming Earth...I'd pay to see that!"

It seems that Blomkamps Alien V and the Red Harvest Project had touched upon this, it seems the PLOT was that a Company on Earth has Obtained the Derelict which is NOT in a Good Shape......  and we will see Mutated Xenomorphs as the Company would Attempt to Obtain a Pure Strain from Contaminated Material/Eggs.  Or they have a Pure Strain but are Attempting to Modify/Experiment with them....

The Projects where PUT ON HOLD so that Ridley Scott could Release at least TWO of his Prequels after Prometheus... but after the Disappointment of Alien Covenant and the DISNEY take over the Projects had Remained on Indefinite Hold. 

And even Blomkamp has came to TERMS that his Project will NEVER see the DAY OF LIGHT....

How this Connects with  the OT.... is that its a Big Ask for DISNEY to Rush into making ANY kind of ALIEN MOVIES....  i think the Success or Lack of Success of the ALIEN TV SERIES... will give some Indication of the Future of the Franchise.

I think there will ALWAYS be a Market for Video Games, Comics and Novels as they seem more LOW RISK..... and thats WHY i think a Expansion into a ANIMATED TV SERIES or Movie could be the ANSWER.

And if they DID SO.... then it could be a Alternative Reality and so they DO-NOT have to WORRY about Conflicting the Franchise or Prequels and be ALLOWED more Creative Freedom.

Ideas from Earth War could be USED in such a Venture.

Animation is more LOW RISK and can Produce Good Results a Example is the Street Fighter Movie.... compared to the LIVE ACTION (Jeane Claude Van Damme) which COST WAY MORE and was well AWFUL!  Sometimes they get it RIGHT though as the Live Action version of Ghost in a Shell was Decent... but the ANIME Version was GREAT and would COST MUCH MUCH LESS.

How are people regarding that it seems this TV Series is SET like Prior to the Prequels........ and maybe could be Set as Early as 2050-2070?

I agree with Ridley Scotts Comments (Assessment), your just NEVER going to Replicate the Effect the Xenomorph has on Screen as we saw from the First Two Movies.

There is ONLY so much Face Hugging ans Snarling you can do before it maybe gets Repetitive.   The TV Series will Apparently Concentrate on other THINGS... with the Xenomorph making a Appearance towards the END of the TV Series.  It seems they will be Changing it a Little but would still pay Respect and Homage to the Original Monster of the TV Series.

So WHAT we may get would be something that is more like the Alien Covenant Xenomorph than from say ALIENS and who knows... the TV Series may even NOT have any Queens!  I wonder HOW some Fans would React to that?

Depending on HOW MANY Episodes it could be we have to Wait/Watch like 200-300 Minutes before the Xenomorph make a Appearance...

I would say if we got 8EP then we wont see any Face Hugging until say EP6 if we have 12EP then likely have to WAIT until like EP9, there is a Problem with the Xenomorph as for SOME then if you see it OVER and OVER and OVER then it may Loose its Effect...

RS had said you have to Evolve it and look at other ways to Procreate.   But for some Fans they would Object to Messing about with the Xenomorph and think IF it is NOT Broke then Dont Fix....

I think with a TV Series you can Slowly Build Up other Elements but it will be a TEST to see HOW the Majority of the Fanbase Feels about HOW LONG they wait to see the Xenomorph and HOW MUCH they will be seeing of it.

But it seems the Show could Focus on the DAWN of FTL Travel and the Advent of Synthetic A.I Humanoids..... and OPEN us up to the New Frontier which is Space Travel to other Worlds/Moons for Resources.

But it seems a LOT of the TV Series will be Based in and around Earth, and i do SUSPECT the Discovery of the Xenomorph will come from a Crashed/Sunken Engineer Ship that is Discovered like WAY before the Prequels and so the SHOW must be kind of a RETCON?

I think its a Mistake to SET such a PLOT/STORY like before the Year 2250.... but it could be SET like 200 Years prior to that.

MonsterZero I think I forgot to mention that Aliens Earth War is a trilogy of comics: Aliens Outbreak (Book One), Aliens Nightmare Asylum (Book Two), and Aliens Female War (Book Three)

Did you read Aliens Outbreak first? Aliens Outbreak (or Aliens Earth Hive for the novelization) explains how the xenomorphs got on Earth

I just read the entire Aliens: Earth War.

Incredible artwork! Don't see Marvel doing something so loose and bold.

But...So many questions!?

Where do all these worker drone xenomorphs come from?  The derelict on LV-426 has dozens...Where did they come from? I can understand they were in hibernation...but for how long? The queen lays some eggs and waits for thousands of years to finally find one host ( Kane ) for her egg (s)?

If they reboot the story this needs to be addressed ( IMHO ).

The story also doesn't elaborate on how the Earth fell to the xenomorphs? Xenomorphs traveling underground...Alien breeders? So they don't require hosts to make xenomorphs? They are protecting nascent eggs...So the eggs release facehuggers ....who find humans? So humans no longer need to look inside a pod? A queen lays 15 eggs an hour? that's 100,000 eggs a year and there are billions of humans?.... Needs to be more queens or something.

I think the real story is how they conquered Earth. That's what I want to read.

Humans are an extremely vicious and cunning species and I don't see the xenomorphs being much of a match. Humans have dealt with thousands of deadly species and usually end up feeding those species to their young or putting them in zoos.

I can see humans creating zoos for the xenomorph. Probably put them on the endangered species list!

Egg pods would become a delicacy.  fried egg pod anyone?

Perhaps buttered 'tail of a face-hugger' served with fries.

The acid would be synthesized and added to soft drinks served at Mcdonald's.

So an Earth war would be cool....They just need to tighten the script up a bit.

That does sound scary but I think that should be reserved for a xenomorph offshoot then a purestrain xenomorph