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Zues

MemberOvomorph07/26/2011
My take. The title (the story of Prometheus) is the story, the plot.........everything else will be the fantastic details. I also heard Scott and Lindelof over the last few days refer to both movies, Alien AND Aliens and I find it interesting that in Aliens humans are terraforming LV-426. I am sure that terraforming is the fire that this Prometheus has stolen.
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Apollo

MemberOvomorph07/27/2011
Right i have been thinking, and thinking what the hell this is about but looking at the clues , the most obvious plot is that they investigate this alien DNA, find the crashed ship and go inside, only to find the ship half functioning compared to the original alien where is was dead. Then once inside they encounter the Space Jockey who at first seems really territorial but thinks he could use the human scientists for good and bad reasons for future experiments, as I believe the Space jockeys created the Aliens and were using them for miltary reasons, maybe even heading for earth as who knows maybe the Jockeys created us, maybe they create species to worhip them like gods maybe they even created the predators but to then only regret their choices or just to put an end to a species they just simply go to a planet and drop off these eggs , like a bomber thus cleansing the planet for them to start again. This is strange, as I write this I still cant make sense of it and never will til June the 8th, horrible feeling but exciting. I have so many theories but dont know where to start.

arrgy

MemberOvomorph07/29/2011
The paramount question that has to be answered to make the entire Alien series plausable is. How did the company know of the existance of the Alien? If that question is not answered, then everything falls apart. Personally I don't really care about the space jockey, or why the aliens were created and for what purpose. How did the company know is what needs to be answered.

Rick

MemberXenomorph08/1/2011
Hey Arggy, Lets put another spin on your question. How would the Colonial Marine Expiditionary Forces know to call it a "bug hunt"? You really don't think the company could have covered it up by themselves without the "government" knowing about it do you? Obviously something had their interests peaked inorder to send an experienced squad out with a new louie that has no experience do you? The government was as much in bed with the company as Burke was. Regards, Rick

CarterJ

MemberOvomorph08/2/2011
Hi Rick - i would say that when the marines coined the term 'bug hunt' would prove that they have been shipped out before on other missions dealing with different types of nasties. I think the Company did just that by 'covering up the details to the Government'. Or another slant - maybe the Government is the Company...

CarterJ

MemberOvomorph08/2/2011
yeah - the government is the Company.

Neurion

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph08/2/2011
This is the way I’ve always figured the events took place: USCSS Nostromo leaves Thedus with 20,000,000 tonnes of mineral ore, bound for Earth. Her science officer is replaced with Ash. While the crew is hyper-sleeping, “Mother” (and probably “The Company” via link) picks up a message of unknown origin and awakens the crew. According to the computer “Mother”…the Nostromo was rerouted to new coordinates…namely the planetoid or “LV-426.” USCSS Nostromo encounters what is assumed to be a distress signal emanating from the planetoid. Android Ash receives orders from the Company to ensure the safety of any alien life form that might be encountered (I don’t think that the Company really or actually knew what they dealing with or investigating at this point). Probably or maybe…Ash communicates to “The Company” the nature of the facehugger and the embryo within Kane’s body. Additional information about the Alien life form is also probably communicated to the Company as the creature develops. The Company issues “Special Order 937”…BRING BACK LIFE FORM…ALL OTHE PRIORITIES ARE RESCINDED…CREW EXPENDABLE. Warrant Officer Ripley discovers that Weyland-Yutani want the Alien specimen and the crew of the Nostromo are expendable. It is revealed Science Officer Ash is in fact an android, who has been protecting the Alien. …Any way that’s about it. I’ve never thought that the Company had any idea or knowledge that the Alien life form was so hostile. I think they were just interested in potential profits that might arise from contact. As Ash says, “There is a clause in the contract which specifically states any systematized transmission indicating a possible intelligent origin must be investigated.” In other words...I like to think that the Company didn't know about the Space Jockey or the Alien until they recieved a communication from Ash. No direct conection to Prometheus. Although...LV-426 or a Space Jockey homeworld could be near common trade routes, like the course between Thedus and Earth. I hope that the new film PROMETHEUS makes no mention of The Company-Weyland Yutani or any other direct human connection to the previous ALIEN films. I hope PROMETHEUS does its own thing...while working in the Space Jockey and Alien creature elements. What do you folks think? ~Neurion

Neurion

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph08/2/2011
Further observation... I will add that the Company probably picked up the Alien transmission befor Nostromo left Thedus...due to the fact that they replaced the original science officer with Ash the android...a frickin' Company Man...just 2 days prior to departure. You just know that the Company wanted a piece of what ever was going on...on LV-426...so Ash was the "insider"...the company's ace in the hole. ~Neurion

Rick

MemberXenomorph08/2/2011
CarterJ, Can't be. Drawing from the "Alien Universe" It was pointed out and I really hate saying it, in Ressurection it was said that Weyland-Yutani was bought out by Walmart. The animal itself goes "way beyond urban pacification" LOL of all the companies they had to use Walmart as an out for the "company" plus urban pacification that creature wouldn't pacifiy anything just bring them to the herding center for embryo implantation Rick

Titan

MemberOvomorph08/2/2011
i like to think that the company didnt know about the alien in alien. however, i think that there will have to be a link between the terraforming of LV-426 in aliens and the main story of prometheus. my question is: how did mankind come up with a machine that can terraform a planet? prometheus will be the story of mankind coming across the space jockeys ship on earth, somehow take it back to the space jockeys home planet and humans being humans will steal the machine from our creators upsetting them which in turn makes them send a ship full of eggs towards planet earth ultimatley crashing on LV-426, setting off a distress beacon, which allows the events from alien to occur. this is what i want to see and think it would be the most pleasing and plausable movie which would answer all the questions needing to be answered. any thoughts?

Zues

MemberOvomorph08/2/2011
Titan, Could not have said it any better.......in fact as you posted I was writing the same synopsis!! I bought the Blu-Ray Alien Anthology and watched Alien last night with the Ridley Scott commentary and upon climbing on to the Space Jockey's flight deck Scott names "The Space Jockey" and says that no one really questions where the Space Jockey or the Aliens come from and he says that he would love to make a 5 & 6 to explore their origins......obviously this commentary was made some time after Alien Resurrection. He also catergorically says that that the Space Jockey's damaged craft on LV-426 is a bomber and that the eggs are its payload!!! I believe it's chasing The Prometheus back to Earth but doesn't make it and crashes on LV-426. Weyland-Yutani don't know where it has crashed however they are always ready to respond when they do hence the Nostromo waking up and Ash doing his job. Anyway they are my thoughts so far and the Alien Anthology is the best bargain in the world....$40.00 on e-bay!!!.......2 versions of each movie and 60 hours of extras all in crystal clear Blu-Ray!!
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CarterJ

MemberOvomorph08/3/2011
Hi Rick - good stuff. I am all ears when learning more about the universe.

CarterJ

MemberOvomorph08/3/2011
Maybe the Company didn't know what type of Alien they were sending the crew to investigate until Ash finds it. Then as soon as they identify the creature the company could seem to already be aware of its existence and potential for a bio-weapon. This could lead to the suggestion that Weyland-Yutani will be involved in Prometheus in some way. Maybe the film will show the first time the Company start getting involved with the Alien/Space Jockey scene. I have heard that Lance Henrikson is rumoured to be in it too. Not sure on how I feel about that. Don't get me wrong he is a great actor but lets move on.

Reimer

MemberOvomorph08/4/2011
Neurion wrote "I hope that the new film PROMETHEUS makes no mention of The Company-Weyland Yutani " Not me - the Company seems in many ways the perfect counterpart to the ruthless collective that is the Alien strain. Ditto the cold-eyed monsters working for United Systems Military in 'Resurrection'. These characters chill me because they aren't so far from the toxicity to be found around (and above) us, more close to home than the fantastic grotesquerie of the Alien itself. Impressed and very excited by the leaked pics but can't see anything there that gives the film the scope alluded to in that recent leaked "Bring the wrath of the Gods to Earth" synopsis. Or am I missing something? R

Ruhaniya

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph08/4/2011
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Neurion

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph08/5/2011
Hey guys, Just to clarify, I think that the Weyland-Yutani Company is a great story device as well. Especially because when ALIEN was released in 1979…and in the ’70s, so many films featured “the government” as the “heavy” or villain…it was refreshing and fairly unique for a corporation to be an antagonist. However, I think that in the ALIEN series…the “Company” as the bad guys has been done to death. It was Weyland-Yutani with mineral ore in ALIEN, then again with Terraforming in ALIENS, and yet a third time with a mostly shut down smelting plant manned by criminals. Aren’t there any other companies…operating in space? Or how about smaller, privately owned space projects? After all…this is happening in the 2100s (I think…right?). Anyways, it just seems too connected, convenient, unrealistic, and “George Lucasy” to me. At least Lucas after first two BEST STAR WARS films (in my opinion). ~Neurion P.S. Ruhaniya…you crack me up! Haha

Nostromophobe

MemberOvomorph08/5/2011
I think that Ridley Scott is moving to abandon the "ALIEN" mythos with "Prometheus". He hopes to utilize the then Original "Alien" feel and atmosphere to concieve something utterly diffrent in texture. Also he wants us to see more of this universe and its possible diversities (ala the "Star Wars" universe). If you look at the whole "Alien"franchise it kind of explains itself with "AVP" in part as prequel to explain how the Aliens were brought to earth by the "Predators" (from another franchise) for sport and the subsequent discovery by Weyland Yutani Corp. of their dormant (up to that point) existance in Alaska. "AVP Requiem" unfortunately added nothing beyond the previous film that was useful. thus the reboot idea was concocted by 20th Century Fox. Now Ridley liked what he did, but he can't see remaking it. And he would be right, the original was as close to a perfect piece of work as you can get and shouldnt be messed with further. We will see the "Alien creatures" again, but the Jockey and others will figure more prominently in this new story. We'll have to be patient and see Ridley's new original story when it arrives to the screen.

Ben

MemberOvomorph08/5/2011
Perhaps this interview with Ridley Scott could help figure some things out: [url=http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45454]http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45454[/url] Some excerpts: -The prequel will go further into the world of terraforming and will focus on the realities of what it takes to leave for another planet. He mentioned the theory of Near Faster-Than-Light travel, which is complete science fiction at the moment; “Mr. Spock stuff” as he called it, rearranging matter essentially, but theoretically possible. “But what we’re allowed to do by movies is to cheat like hell. But I think the closer it is to the truth, the closer it is to the technological feasibility then it becomes that much more interesting. And if it’s a film like the one I’m going to do, then it becomes that much more frightening.” - On the Space Jockey: “I think beneath that carcass… it’s not a carcass, it’s a suit. Inside the suit is a being.” An interesting hint at to what he’s doing with the prequels, perhaps?

Jack

MemberOvomorph08/5/2011
I think The Company should in involed in some way. We do know this film will feature androids, now maybe The Company does not know anything about the Jockey/Alien when they send PROMETHEUS out but when it all goes to hell for the crew like we know it is going to, mybe an android can escape and tell The Company what happand.

Hudson25

MemberOvomorph08/5/2011
As for this movie, I think the real mystery lies with how the Space Jockeys interact with the humans and how the urns/capsules figure into all of this. I for one can't wait to see what new direction they take the series to in this movie and believe it will be just as terrifying as the original. Very interested in seeing how the Space Jockeys will interact with the humans, will they be benevolent or do they see humans as a threat? Just getting the chance to see a Space Jockey that's alive on film for the first time will be worth the price of the movie ticket for me!

Ruhaniya

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph08/6/2011
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Mr.J

MemberOvomorph08/9/2011
So Scott is going to use what Cameron created, which is surprising to me since Scott did not like what Cameron did to the Alien...interesting. You know as humans, we always mess something up... "Hey...Look something cool looking, I am going to take this despite what those big ol aliens thingys said to me." Thus the story begins...

IGIGOU

MemberOvomorph09/18/2011
My Educated guess, (Or My Psych analysis on Scotts Plotline Which includes all his other movies and his style of story telling) for “Prometheus” after observing the leaks, discussions and photos. (Enjoy!) 1) Humans discover a temple on earth that marks the pre-existence of the “Mala’Kaks Space jockeys (aliens.wikia.com), on earth and their home world address. They decipher the hieroglyphs and human technology is advanced quickly from agriculture to energy. 2) Years later a super conglomerate (Weyland / Yutani)…” emblem is seen on the vehicle pics”. Creates 2 Interstellar ships , The Magellan and the Prometheus to investigate 3) Each ship is run by 1 android 4) They arrive on the star system and land on the planet. They find an identical temple as on earth which leads them into the inner depths of the planet. 5) There they discover a society of aliens similar to the Mala’Kakas but different. The human crew is there just for observance and make no contact. They observe animalistic anarchy and a malevolent society based on eroticism and mutilation based on images of Gigers “Hypersexuality.” 6) They discover the inner sanctum of the high priest of the “Space Jockey” realm ,and steal samples, including the “bio slime and other artifacts. 7) A crew member is infected “ raped” to hell by these sex aliens, during the process of stealing. 8) After returning to the Magellan, they study the samples, the crew of the Prometheus stay on the planet for observance. There the first appearance of the” space jockey” is revealed to the audience. 9) Meanwhile the crew on the Magellan discovers the secrets of the “bio slime”.The injured crew member gets sick and starts a metamorphosis or is infected. This is the first generation human/alien hybrid is created. The crew controls its growth and isolates it. 10) Back on the planet the space jockey goes “ape shit” on these humans, and what they have done. Of course the crew fights back. This is a Military and exploratory mission. There loaded! (This is the action part of the movie!) 11) The Magellan is now contaminated. Head operations officer, (Charlice Theron) transfers all data from the ill fated Magellan to the Prometheus. She returns with the surviving crew and launches a Bio war of these first generation alien/hybrids man has now created “ accidently” against the Mala’Kaks. 12) We find out later she knows more secrets of the MalaKaks technology as deciphered in the hieroglyphs years earlier on earth. And that she herself is an android as well. 13) The remaining crew returns to the Prometheus. And one of the androids takes over the Ill fated Magellan on a suicide mission and uses it as a 500megaton bomb, on the Malakaks planet. 14) The Prometheus steals the fire of the gods! But the Space Jockey, conducts a last chase to chase the humans, unfortunately It does not know that his load of biological mutants gets free and infects him as well. He crashes and is never heard of again until many years later. 15) So in the future the Nostromo is sent back to retrieve a viable specimen that the Prometheus was unable to sustain.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorph09/18/2011
1st of all regarding the post right above mine....or wherever it is as you read this in which some stated that the "Company" doesn't know the creature is deadly or the extent of it's bad intent".....no offense but a big part of that does not seem right, It is clearly stated that they, Wayland Yutani, wants the creature to use as a BIO WEAPONS enhancement early on in the storyline..and that much becomes crystal clear when they arrive on Fury 161 and another BIshop who says he is the real Human one but we never know for sure, and his men, start shooting at the custodial inmates in order to secure the creature they suspect is living within Ripley. someone else up there suggested perhaps... "Prometheus" stole something... I do not think Prometheus stole anything, I suspect it is the name of the ship involved in this film. It's just my little guess.... But I think you are dead bang on the money with the rest of it, and again, that was exactly the main idea in John Spaiths original script, that these Growers were Harvesting these creatures to help with the pre-colonization of planets {Burk calls them something professional, you know those things that purify the air and make it breathable for humans but forget what he calls them right now}. I think Prometheus just might be the connection, the ship itself, it may be the ship that actually is sent to investigate what happened to the first Space Jockey whom crash landed on LV426.

IGIGOU

MemberOvomorph09/18/2011
Thanx "Sparticus" for your insight!. But..my guess.is.. its the ships name "Prometheus" ".He who stole fire from the gods to give to humanity!" ..was the main idea of this film.. They stole the biological essence of life!..the Secret To forming life" on other worlds. I could be wrong . But my alcohol induced script above is what im guessing is going to happen next summer!

Theusprom

MemberOvomorph09/19/2011
Here's a synopsis that was "leaked" that I like. BTW, the company don't know of the capabilities of the Alien as a Bio weapon in this movie.It is a prequel and it will be 30 years before the events of Alien.I believe a big chunk of the story will be how the company find out about the Xeno. [size=200]Earth. Year 2058. Archaeological digs in Africa reveals alien artifacts that proves humans were genetically engineered by a advanced alien race (space jockeys). These "Alien Gods" also terraformed Earth in order to make it habitable for their human creations. Amongst the finds are coordinates to the Alien Gods' home-world. To Paradise. Months later the Weyland Corp launch the spaceship PROMETHEUS and his crew, into deep space to make first contact. Thanks to faster than light travel a few years later the PROMETHEUS enters the Zeta Riticuli star system. Humans are greeted by their makers, then transported further into space to a scary yet fascinating world. The Alien Gods are proud of their "children", their first creation to reach such levels of intelligence. As a reward they share bits of their astonishing bio-based technologies with the humans. But for one member of the Prometheus' crew it's not enough. In a treacherous act he steals the "bio-source code" to Terraforming, A technology at the origin of all Gods' powers, that could make humans equal to their creators. The Alien Gods may be scientists but are also ruthless conquerors, destroyers of worlds who will not accept humans as equals. They unleash on the escaping human crew their favorite bio-weapon, a creature used to "clean up" worlds before colonization. But something goes wrong in the process and humans manage to turn the bio-weapon against their makers. Giving birth to a smarter, nastier, bigger breed of gut eating creatures. Creatures that will be the demise of Paradise. What's left of the Prometheus crew manages to escape the doomed alien planet. On their trail a survivor Alien God on a familiar ship with an ultimate mission. Bring the wrath of the Gods to Earth. [/size] The Facebook page has an updated synopsis too: Release Date June 8, 2012 Genre Action, Drama, Horror, Sci-Fi Studio 20th Century Fox Description [size=200]Ridley Scott, director of “Alien” and “Blade Runner,” returns to the genre he helped define. With PROMETHEUS, he creates a groundbreaking mythology, in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race.[/size] Starring Michael Fassbender; Noomi Rapace; Charlize Theron; Idris Elba; Guy Pearce; Ben Foster; and Logan Marshall-Green Directed By Ridley Scott Screenplay By Damon Lindelof, Jon Spaihts Notice the part about saving the human race!Never been said up until now.

Frantz

MemberOvomorph09/19/2011
I tend to agree with IGIGOU ...i think hes not far from what we will see ( maybe of course !! ) watching the leaked comicon photos i think that : 1) Prometheus movie it totally linked with Alien movie , i dont care of what the production says . 2) Fassbender looks like hes playng a big role ( maybe are just random sequences of the shooting they have filmed so far but i dont think so ) 3) Noomi Rapace looks she is in charge of the main role , she looks really Ripleyish BUT BUT there is that strange image of that hand on her ( she looks like noomi) cryochamber ..they are observing her cos she is infected ? or is just someone caring her ? hummm 4) the alien platform looks like the one from the first movie ..it just miss the space jockey with the trasmitter in the middle . 5) there are alot of images of that eggs and nothing about an "active" civilization ..maybe its to avoid spoiling but we can say that the "eggs" thing was something already well developed 6) looks like someone is infected ( the abdominal screening ) and is a woman maybe . If is the woman in the chamber before she looks like nooma rapace . And to be honest the subsequent photo , the woman that is falling down sick , looks again like Rapace . 7) we dont see neither Foster neither Guy Pearce ..both can play the good or the evil , i think that the many photos of theron are a bait ( she can be important for the plot but i dont think her role changed so much to become a main character ) 8) the images we have are really dark ..surely its to avoid to spoil much but again i dont see traces of an active civilization ..everything looks like the lv426

spacekid890

MemberOvomorph09/19/2011
I had a idea that the andriods on this mission would turn in to the xenomorphes, In the original alien film the ailen was biomechanical and the androids in the aliens universe seemed like they where grown instead of built. It could be that the spacejockys created humans and then humans create andriods witch pissess of the jockeys in some way so they turn the humans creation agienst them witch kind of ties in with the prometheus myth.

spacyfreak

MemberOvomorph09/19/2011
well - noadays, the "old" ideas of god and creatism are "oldfashioned". these thoughts are simply unbelieveable, and less and less people want to believe. So the storyline of "living" creators, this "space jokey culture" is amazing, as it simply says - "...ok, this is a science fiction movie, a story straight out of the phantasy of the writers - but hey, its not LESS believeable then the stories about god, creatism and jesus!" And yes - thats TRUE! With some fantasy, you can create ANY explanation, HOW we came to LIVE and why we are here. There is no TRUTH, its just THOUGHTS how it COULD have happened, thousand and thousands years ago, that we came to life. NOone knows the complete true story where it all came from, and i think mankind will NEVER know it all, no matter how long they search. An ANT can never understand how a computer works - or even WHATS THE SENSE OF A COMPUTER. Simply - because its an ANT.....

Frantz

MemberOvomorph09/19/2011
Well no one will never be able to explain how ..from nothing ...the reality exist , a universe exist .. every scientific theory start from something at athe beginning ..but how that something arrived ( even just empty space , dimensions and time) no science will be never able to explain SO the creation theory will always live long life since will be never exist another plausible theory ...we will know the truth just dyng , in a way or another . Returning to talk about Prometheus i fear a bit the presence of androids cos are already a bit an abused theme ... and everyone want just to see if he/it is good or evil ... they will be bad as ash ? or good as the robot in Moon ? i hope the movie will not focus on that too much cos are human relactionships and emotions that make good movies ( moon ,sunshine are a good examples )

Neurion

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph09/20/2011
WOW! There’s certainly a lot atheistic propaganda being spewed across the PROMETHEUS forum today. You know, I had an existential conversation with a friend one day. During the conversation my friend said, “You know what? I think that if even if God did NOT exist, people would invent one…and so they have. In response I said, “Well that’s interesting, I think that even if God DOES exist, people will try to find a way to un-invent or deny this God…and so they do. I find it interesting that folks like “spacey freak” are willing, and are so readily eager to embrace the concept of a “merely” extra-terrestrial (non-divine) god or creator, while simultaneously ridiculing theological theories that have been held by scholars, philosophers, and men of science…with “superior spelling skills”… for MILLENNIA! I don’t mean to come across as didactic. It’s just that “spacey freak’s” statements reminded so much, of the afore mentioned conversation, that I felt compelled to post it. Moreover, it’s amusing…and at the same time, SAD to me, that the member wrote that there is no TRUTH. In actuality, all of nature is truth. Trouble only comes in to “paradise” when the TRUTH is either misunderstood or intentionally denied or attacked. The fact is that approximately 97.5% of the (non ant) human population believes in some form of a supernatural God(s)…not including potentially powerful extra-terrestrial lifeforms i.e. Space Jockeys. I sure hope the PROMETHEUS film does not go in this presumptuous and theologically and scientifically dismissive direction. Remember folks, good science does not rule out possibilities without proof. To rule out the possibility of God(s) seems very Unscientific…at least to me. God Bless…if there is one, ~Neurion
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