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MemberOvomorphJuly 26, 2011My take.
The title (the story of Prometheus) is the story, the plot.........everything else will be the fantastic details.
I also heard Scott and Lindelof over the last few days refer to both movies, Alien AND Aliens and I find it interesting that in Aliens humans are terraforming LV-426.
I am sure that terraforming is the fire that this Prometheus has stolen.
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July 27, 2011
Right i have been thinking, and thinking what the hell this is about but looking at the clues , the most obvious plot is that they investigate this alien DNA, find the crashed ship and go inside, only to find the ship half functioning compared to the original alien where is was dead. Then once inside they encounter the Space Jockey who at first seems really territorial but thinks he could use the human scientists for good and bad reasons for future experiments, as I believe the Space jockeys created the Aliens and were using them for miltary reasons, maybe even heading for earth as who knows maybe the Jockeys created us, maybe they create species to worhip them like gods maybe they even created the predators but to then only regret their choices or just to put an end to a species they just simply go to a planet and drop off these eggs , like a bomber thus cleansing the planet for them to start again. This is strange, as I write this I still cant make sense of it and never will til June the 8th, horrible feeling but exciting. I have so many theories but dont know where to start.
July 29, 2011
The paramount question that has to be answered to make the entire Alien series plausable is. How did the company know of the existance of the Alien? If that question is not answered, then everything falls apart.
Personally I don't really care about the space jockey, or why the aliens were created and for what purpose. How did the company know is what needs to be answered.
August 01, 2011
Hey Arggy,
Lets put another spin on your question. How would the Colonial Marine Expiditionary Forces know to call it a "bug hunt"? You really don't think the company could have covered it up by themselves without the "government" knowing about it do you? Obviously something had their interests peaked inorder to send an experienced squad out with a new louie that has no experience do you? The government was as much in bed with the company as Burke was.
Regards,
Rick
August 02, 2011
Hi Rick - i would say that when the marines coined the term 'bug hunt' would prove that they have been shipped out before on other missions dealing with different types of nasties. I think the Company did just that by 'covering up the details to the Government'. Or another slant - maybe the Government is the Company...
August 02, 2011
This is the way I’ve always figured the events took place:
USCSS Nostromo leaves Thedus with 20,000,000 tonnes of mineral ore, bound for Earth. Her science officer is replaced with Ash.
While the crew is hyper-sleeping, “Mother” (and probably “The Company” via link) picks up a message of unknown origin and awakens the crew.
According to the computer “Mother”…the Nostromo was rerouted to new coordinates…namely the planetoid or “LV-426.”
USCSS Nostromo encounters what is assumed to be a distress signal emanating from the planetoid.
Android Ash receives orders from the Company to ensure the safety of any alien life form that might be encountered (I don’t think that the Company really or actually knew what they dealing with or investigating at this point).
Probably or maybe…Ash communicates to “The Company” the nature of the facehugger and the embryo within Kane’s body. Additional information about the Alien life form is also probably communicated to the Company as the creature develops.
The Company issues “Special Order 937”…BRING BACK LIFE FORM…ALL OTHE PRIORITIES ARE RESCINDED…CREW EXPENDABLE.
Warrant Officer Ripley discovers that Weyland-Yutani want the Alien specimen and the crew of the Nostromo are expendable. It is revealed Science Officer Ash is in fact an android, who has been protecting the Alien.
…Any way that’s about it. I’ve never thought that the Company had any idea or knowledge that the Alien life form was so hostile. I think they were just interested in potential profits that might arise from contact. As Ash says, “There is a clause in the contract which specifically states any systematized transmission indicating a possible intelligent origin must be investigated.”
In other words...I like to think that the Company didn't know about the Space Jockey or the Alien until they recieved a communication from Ash. No direct conection to Prometheus. Although...LV-426 or a Space Jockey homeworld could be near common trade routes, like the course between Thedus and Earth.
I hope that the new film PROMETHEUS makes no mention of The Company-Weyland Yutani or any other direct human connection to the previous ALIEN films. I hope PROMETHEUS does its own thing...while working in the Space Jockey and Alien creature elements.
What do you folks think?
~Neurion
August 02, 2011
Further observation...
I will add that the Company probably picked up the Alien transmission befor Nostromo left Thedus...due to the fact that they replaced the original science officer with Ash the android...a frickin' Company Man...just 2 days prior to departure. You just know that the Company wanted a piece of what ever was going on...on LV-426...so Ash was the "insider"...the company's ace in the hole.
~Neurion
August 02, 2011
CarterJ,
Can't be. Drawing from the "Alien Universe" It was pointed out and I really hate saying it, in Ressurection it was said that Weyland-Yutani was bought out by Walmart. The animal itself goes "way beyond urban pacification" LOL of all the companies they had to use Walmart as an out for the "company" plus urban pacification that creature wouldn't pacifiy anything just bring them to the herding center for embryo implantation
Rick
August 02, 2011
i like to think that the company didnt know about the alien in alien. however, i think that there will have to be a link between the terraforming of LV-426 in aliens and the main story of prometheus.
my question is: how did mankind come up with a machine that can terraform a planet?
prometheus will be the story of mankind coming across the space jockeys ship on earth, somehow take it back to the space jockeys home planet and humans being humans will steal the machine from our creators upsetting them which in turn makes them send a ship full of eggs towards planet earth ultimatley crashing on LV-426, setting off a distress beacon, which allows the events from alien to occur.
this is what i want to see and think it would be the most pleasing and plausable movie which would answer all the questions needing to be answered.
any thoughts?
August 02, 2011
Titan,
Could not have said it any better.......in fact as you posted I was writing the same synopsis!!
I bought the Blu-Ray Alien Anthology and watched Alien last night with the Ridley Scott commentary and upon climbing on to the Space Jockey's flight deck Scott names "The Space Jockey" and says that no one really questions where the Space Jockey or the Aliens come from and he says that he would love to make a 5 & 6 to explore their origins......obviously this commentary was made some time after Alien Resurrection.
He also catergorically says that that the Space Jockey's damaged craft on LV-426 is a bomber and that the eggs are its payload!!!
I believe it's chasing The Prometheus back to Earth but doesn't make it and crashes on LV-426.
Weyland-Yutani don't know where it has crashed however they are always ready to respond when they do hence the Nostromo waking up and Ash doing his job.
Anyway they are my thoughts so far and the Alien Anthology is the best bargain in the world....$40.00 on e-bay!!!.......2 versions of each movie and 60 hours of extras all in crystal clear Blu-Ray!!
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August 03, 2011
Maybe the Company didn't know what type of Alien they were sending the crew to investigate until Ash finds it. Then as soon as they identify the creature the company could seem to already be aware of its existence and potential for a bio-weapon. This could lead to the suggestion that Weyland-Yutani will be involved in Prometheus in some way. Maybe the film will show the first time the Company start getting involved with the Alien/Space Jockey scene. I have heard that Lance Henrikson is rumoured to be in it too. Not sure on how I feel about that. Don't get me wrong he is a great actor but lets move on.
August 04, 2011
Neurion wrote "I hope that the new film PROMETHEUS makes no mention of The Company-Weyland Yutani "
Not me - the Company seems in many ways the perfect counterpart to the ruthless collective that is the Alien strain. Ditto the cold-eyed monsters working for United Systems Military in 'Resurrection'. These characters chill me because they aren't so far from the toxicity to be found around (and above) us, more close to home than the fantastic grotesquerie of the Alien itself.
Impressed and very excited by the leaked pics but can't see anything there that gives the film the scope alluded to in that recent leaked "Bring the wrath of the Gods to Earth" synopsis. Or am I missing something?
R
August 04, 2011
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August 05, 2011
Hey guys,
Just to clarify, I think that the Weyland-Yutani Company is a great story device as well. Especially because when ALIEN was released in 1979…and in the ’70s, so many films featured “the government” as the “heavy” or villain…it was refreshing and fairly unique for a corporation to be an antagonist. However, I think that in the ALIEN series…the “Company” as the bad guys has been done to death. It was Weyland-Yutani with mineral ore in ALIEN, then again with Terraforming in ALIENS, and yet a third time with a mostly shut down smelting plant manned by criminals. Aren’t there any other companies…operating in space? Or how about smaller, privately owned space projects? After all…this is happening in the 2100s (I think…right?). Anyways, it just seems too connected, convenient, unrealistic, and “George Lucasy” to me. At least Lucas after first two BEST STAR WARS films (in my opinion).
~Neurion
P.S. Ruhaniya…you crack me up! Haha
August 05, 2011
I think that Ridley Scott is moving to abandon the "ALIEN" mythos with "Prometheus". He hopes to utilize the then Original "Alien" feel and atmosphere to concieve something utterly diffrent in texture. Also he wants us to see more of this universe and its possible diversities (ala the "Star Wars" universe). If you look at the whole "Alien"franchise it kind of explains itself with "AVP" in part as prequel to explain how the Aliens were brought to earth by the "Predators" (from another franchise) for sport and the subsequent discovery by Weyland Yutani Corp. of their dormant (up to that point) existance in Alaska. "AVP Requiem" unfortunately added nothing beyond the previous film that was useful. thus the reboot idea was concocted by 20th Century Fox. Now Ridley liked what he did, but he can't see remaking it. And he would be right, the original was as close to a perfect piece of work as you can get and shouldnt be messed with further. We will see the "Alien creatures" again, but the Jockey and others will figure more prominently in this new story. We'll have to be patient and see Ridley's new original story when it arrives to the screen.
August 05, 2011
Perhaps this interview with Ridley Scott could help figure some things out: [url=http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45454]http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45454[/url]
Some excerpts:
-The prequel will go further into the world of terraforming and will focus on the realities of what it takes to leave for another planet. He mentioned the theory of Near Faster-Than-Light travel, which is complete science fiction at the moment; “Mr. Spock stuff” as he called it, rearranging matter essentially, but theoretically possible. “But what we’re allowed to do by movies is to cheat like hell. But I think the closer it is to the truth, the closer it is to the technological feasibility then it becomes that much more interesting. And if it’s a film like the one I’m going to do, then it becomes that much more frightening.”
- On the Space Jockey: “I think beneath that carcass… it’s not a carcass, it’s a suit. Inside the suit is a being.” An interesting hint at to what he’s doing with the prequels, perhaps?
August 05, 2011
I think The Company should in involed in some way. We do know this film will feature androids, now maybe The Company does not know anything about the Jockey/Alien when they send PROMETHEUS out but when it all goes to hell for the crew like we know it is going to, mybe an android can escape and tell The Company what happand.
August 05, 2011
As for this movie, I think the real mystery lies with how the Space Jockeys interact with the humans and how the urns/capsules figure into all of this. I for one can't wait to see what new direction they take the series to in this movie and believe it will be just as terrifying as the original. Very interested in seeing how the Space Jockeys will interact with the humans, will they be benevolent or do they see humans as a threat? Just getting the chance to see a Space Jockey that's alive on film for the first time will be worth the price of the movie ticket for me!