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Mr.J
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Well, I started thinking that we have two crews here from what we have seen and gathered amongst ourselves and the more I think about it, the more I lean toward the idea that this crew stumbled upon the planet..how, well, we shall find out sometime in June but we know that Patrick Wilson is playing a "Cocooned Man"...I am thinking that the Humanoids, the "Engineers" experiment with their new creation, a weapon, the iconic Alien and use him as the test subject to see how these creatures will work. So, this poor guy gets to be the host for their new weapon. Of course, they created a creature that has a short life span. So, the humanoids can come in after and clean up the planet.
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Hudson25
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011It would seem that there was an earlier expedition or crew based on his character description I just don't know the chronology of his arrival on the planet and how the Space Jockey's got a hold of him. That in itself would make for a great story!

Mr.J
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Yeah....they are stranded there until the Magellan arrives and try to take over the ship to get the heck out there...the crew stumbles upon Patrick Wilson who us the experiment for the Humanoids...only, we dont know what they are doing to this poor guy...perhaps the template for the Alien we know and love...

Rakkasan
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011My thoughts on this is; what if the SJ created the Alien by mistake. I see a lot of assumptions that they are creating a weapon, but this flies against the logic that if they are seeding worlds in an attempt to create intelligent life, why create a weapon to destroy the life you worked so hard to create?
My theory is the "goo" was supposed to be used on a primordial planet (ancient Earth?) to spark the foundation of life that through millennium of evolution would leads to humans. But what if the "goo" was used on life that had already evolved. Would some perverse new life-form then be created?
The basis for my theory is the SJ in Alien was obviously killed by a chest burster. This would seem more likely if it was infected by an accidental experiment gone wrong than by a deliberate creation of a weapon. Just a thought.

walterhiller
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011goo=primordial ooze? that's a theory i can buy. your last point makes a lot of sense as well.
however on your first point, there's nothing to indicate that creatures capable of creation aren't capable of destruction. we know this to be the nature of many organisms. the space jockeys may have just taken this to grander scales as a result of their advanced technology.
it may be part of an unknown agenda as well. maybe they use them on failed experiments.

Mr.J
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011I read that in England, a scientist created a super strain of a flu..why, who knows maybe to see what he can make perhaps....maybe the humanoids did it by accident and thus, they killed themselves in the process....with their race and this all they have left..until we arrive and screw everything up...

Rakkasan
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Yes, but you both are missing the point. The scientist that created that super strain of a flu did not create the lifeforms that the flu will affect. It flies against logic to destroy what you create.
We are all talking about "maybes" here. True there is nothing to indicate that the creatures are not capable of destruction, but there is also nothing to indicate that destruction is their driving force either. I did mention it is a theory.

Frantz
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011i think they will lean more to the cocooned dallas of Alien , because was a great idea , scary as hell and not used .
I agree then that the cocooned man can be the base "food" for the first alien to born

Rakkasan
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011I remember reading the Dean Foster book that had the Dallas cocooned scene in it. I thought is was really awesome and scary, but it was just as exciting to watch the movie and always wonder what happened to him.

Gavin
MemberTrilobite12/23/2011I previously posted a theory that maybe the Space Jockeys created the Alien as a means of creating artificial extinction events, to encourage the evolution of intelligent life...
Our planet has had numerous extinction events in its lifetime. Each time one occurs the surviving forms of life have to adapt, evolve to their radically changed environment, ecosystem and food chain. With enough jolts to the evolution of a certain species, in our case mammals, the chances of an intelligent life form evolving (like us) is increased.

Rakkasan
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011I read your theory, but I find it more frightening if it was an accident versus intentional. If it is intentional then that leaves the possibility that the SJs can "control" it. If it is an accident then even the SJs don't know what to expect. Again to me that is more terrifying, that fear of the unknown.

Frantz
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011can be rakkasan ..maybe hes in a deep hole forgot by the SJs... much depend how much the space jockeys are a living race , a dead race , a dyng race ...

centaurian_slug
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011r.e. "artificial extinction events", this is like the superpredator theory, which claims that Earth has already had extinctions caused by super predators which overwhelm their environment and then quickly go extinct themselves through feedback,
This is an ecologists type theory which claims Humans themselves are for real the latest superpredator, and that our ecological damage will kill us off.
Superpredator theory goes hand in hand with the Gaia hypothesis which states that the biosphere accumulates symbiosis over the long-run - because only creatures which behave symbiotically (keeping their own numbers down to avoid draining their own food supply, or recycling other waste products) have a long term future.
my own theory (i've posted) is that the SJ's manipulate environments to seed them for later harvesting, hence technology LIKE the aliens which can take over existing biomass. And they have a strong incentive because of the effects of space travel, where symbioses within one connected system no longer apply. it's been hinted we won't see alien itself but other scary things along the same lines, sharing the same DNA.

Gavin
MemberTrilobite12/23/2011An artificial superpredator, deployed to cause such events, yes...
Once all the suitable hosts have been "used" the Aliens would die and only the eggs would remain, to be picked up and deployed on another primitive world.
Of course once an Intelligent race (such as ourselves) evolves, that planet would no longer such measures.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Speak for yourself .
I am not so sure I am so intelligent anymore after reading everyone's theories here...I am Old, Sleepy, and soon to be institutionalized from acute Prometheus withdrawl symptoms
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Tromatizer
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011I've said it before, but Scott's original plan was for the crew of the Nostromo to transform into alien eggs via mutation of DNA. If that was the case, there were soooo many in the derelict. Now, Scott never said that the alien life cycle in Aliens was defacto with his vision. I'm still under the belief that he's sticking with his original plan, that a majority of this movie will lack xenomorphs as we know them, and as a result of meddling with the goo, WE create the xenomorph accidentally, and that David may be a key factor. Assuming that is true, remember the derelict had thousands of eggs (most of which appear opened already), meaning there would have to be thousands of people that are transformed (enter Magellon), which maybe came first? Or possibly the ampules are transformed into the eggs, this all presupposes that Scott is following his original plan. Furthermore, if he's going the way of the rest of the franchise, there has to be a queen...

Mr.J
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Hey..we have 6 months of theories and many more longer cut trailers to see until the movie comes out...who will come close with theory should win a prize or something.

Tromatizer
MemberOvomorph12/23/2011Agreed! I'm an artist, 6 months is ample time to whip up a really cool painting... actually, as soon as I get to a scanner I'll post the tattoo I designed for my left leg. It's amazing how the knee naturally looks like the back of a facehugger (hint hint).
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