Will Space jockeys get a name? OR should they

Space Jockey was a term coined by the production team on Alien, I'm pretty sure they will be reffered to as "Engineers" in the movie.

So from now on will we call them "Engineers"? but I find it odd that there is also a space jockey skull that is not human? Humanoid Yes, but not like the bald big guy who raises the telescopic seat in the trailer. Anyway "engineers" as a name is not what I was talking about, that's more of a descriptive name, proper name. I was meaning something as a race name or species name, title or something scientific? Or even taken on a historical context to our real history in the myth of the mythology? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Iranischer_Meister_001.jpg/220px-Iranischer_Meister_001.jpg[/img]

I think the skull is actually more like a helmet. Ridley Scott has stated that he thought the Space Jockey is some kind of bio-mechanical suit. This article states that the Jockey in the derelict is connected to some kind of breating tube attatched to its nose, I think it is good evidence towards the theory that it is wearing some kind of bio-mechanical suit when operating the chair. [url]http://ioannis.virtualcomposer2000.com/writing/Derelict.html[/url] The whole thing is a very interesting read but the bit i'm talking about is number 7 on the list.

That was a very good read, thank you for that. I have always loved that organic bone-like structure of Gigers stuff. The walls themselves appear to be the product of something living if it is not alive it's self. Something that stands against the elements of time. It's one chariot that you really got to strap yourself on to, if you know what I mean! Oh I like that part:"Why are the eggs in there in the first place"? I sure hope Damon Lindelof is the ultimate snork?! {Smoke break}

It's not a space Jockey Helmet, Archeologists would be standing around the medical table if it were, No Dr.'s standing around a medical examination table examine Heads, that's clearly a Head and not a helmet. Just FYI

My opinion too, its a skull. Its way too small to be a helmet. The bigger question is - if it is a skull belonging to a Space Jockey, then the guy stood next to the big chair can't be a Space Jockey, so what is he. Regards the skull - I think that the crew come across the remains of a Space Jockey in the ampule room having been dead for a long, long time. its body having decomposed a long time ago the skull has rolled away from the rest of the body contained within the suit on the ground. Seeing the skull as that of an unknown entity (to them) they bag and tag it for examination later on. IMO the dead Space Jockey foreshadows the terrors they are about to face.

"It's not a space Jockey Helmet, Archeologists would be standing around the medical table if it were, No Dr.'s standing around a medical examination table examine Heads, that's clearly a Head and not a helmet." If its a bio-mechanical helmet....could be. Personally I think it is a head, but can't be sure. But you have to wonder why the head would be decapitated in the first place. "My opinion too, its a skull. Its way too small to be a helmet. The bigger question is - if it is a skull belonging to a Space Jockey, then the guy stood next to the big chair can't be a Space Jockey, so what is he." Yeah I think the suit is not suited to the Big guy, wrong dimensions. Personally I think the space jockey in Alien was a suit, but the space jockey head in Prometheus is a real head.

....looks like it was cut from the carcass....cause it stands very level.....which might mean that it is in fact a biomechanical helmet, i mean surely those are worth examining as well! Imagine that...."oh look guys i found what looks like a biomechanical helmet, talk about random trash...geeze I wish i could find something else more worthy of examination. ...OMG is that a candy bar wrapper!!!....looks like we in luck after all !!!"....lol Actually come to think of it....a candy bar wrapper would be weird find in those surroundings...;)

Ridley Scott has said the Space Jockey is a biochemical suit, dating back to early 2010. However, if it is biomechanical, the science crew will likely view as a life form and worthy of study. And in the EW pic of Elizabeth Shaw and Kate Dickie's character examining the Jockey, it looked like the suit had been [i]discarded[/i]...the head, or helmet, separate from the rest. The "Engineer", it seems, is the new name for the Space Jockey, stemming from Riddles' concept that the film revolve around "Gods and Engineers of Space". Personally, I'm glad the race has gotten an official name for the story concerning them..."Space Jockey" always seemed a bit silly to me! :P

Hey RP, I agree with you. MD's would be around the table checking out a Bio Helmet. They'd be intrigued to find out how the helmet would neurologicaly interface with the wearer so they could see, hear, smell and maybe feel what the helmet shows around the wearer. Oh hell I know I would be. Regards, Rick

I honestly do believe it is a helmet. Just beacause its on that medical table surrounded by med staff, dosn't mean it is just a skull. They could assume it is a skull but then find out that its actually bio-mechanical. IMO, I don't really care if it is a skull or a helmet, I just know Prometheus is going to be one of the best if not, the best film of 2012.

Hey everyone! The space jockey and the Engineer are opposite beings. they are both at war for the holy grail which is the "vials" of life! The "Engineers" designed us. That is why we look like them. The Space jockeys want the technology. We, the humans stole the "fire" and , got caught up in their mess! There is no helmet. That is the SJ head decapitated. A helmet does not have a "Mouth" ! Look closely at Alien and the Prometheus Pics!. The SJs chopped of head was discovered in the "engineers" temple! why?? Because he dose not belong there! he is another species (Sj). Thats why this bio-mechanichal war is waged, and the crew of the Prometheus gets involved in this mess!

"Thats why this bio-mechanichal war is waged, and the crew of the Prometheus gets involved in this mess!" That actually sounds pretty cool, and like an ambitious adaptation of the Prometheus myth! I'd like it if that featured in the film; however, Ridley Scott has said numerous times that the Space Jockey is a biomechnical suit - it could have a mouth as "biomechanical" = somewhat alive and it could potentially fuse with its occupant's biology. Here's the exact quote from a December 2011 interview: "I think one of the reasons why I’ve never gone back to science-fiction, even though I’ve often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there’s a nice purity to the original Alien. It’s fairly pure. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?" [url=http://screenrant.com/ridley-scott-prometheus-space-jockey-sandy-144116/] Link[/url]

A "space-suit"? A space-suit doesn't (need to) have "bones" on it. The pilot's chest is clearly fossilized bone, as per the original declaration in "Alien". Scott is probably playing games from lack of a better scenario, hoping to "detach" the engineer-entities from the whole of the Derelict. If the scenario calls for a separation between different beings and the Derelict, Giger is likely not going to be happy with the development, because it doesn't make sense.

.... exoskeleton ...

The suit is a bio - mechanical weapon? Should the suit malfunction on the life form using it, it could fuse both suit and bearer DNA permanently, creating a hybrid? The suit has become parasite like, and therefore needs a host (i.e. other life forms) to survive?

Why do some of my posts just disappear like this one did? Oh well...

Whether the SJ is a suit or not ... or the head is actually a head or a helmet ... I sometimes look at this SJ creature's head and see a large facehugger with the elephant nose being the tail. A dead face hugger that did it's deed and died but never left The face of the SJ and throughout time fossilized onto the skull of the SJ.

SJ's are called Mala`kak.

@ xenokiller3 - Yes, in the comics, which is EU (extended universe), I don't think Ridley considers them canon!

Anyone notice the Space Jockey skull in Alien vs. Predator: Requiem? http://images.wikia.com/avp/images/f/f8/Trophywall-1-.jpg

Could be something like a Guyver unit that adapts itself to the user's unique body type......?

[quote]SJ's are called Mala`kak.[/quote] Kind of awkward that Ridley went with that Greek theme then! Trying to make that word into a plural is just too funny...