Space Jockeys Signal

Thank you That signal, it's beacon, is sending a message to The Engineer's and it is not a warning, it is a message that the transport is Down and did not reach it's destination with the co-ordinates so that the Rest Of The Engineer's can come to his rescue. And what I find GENUIS in all of this is that Ridley gave us all a fantastic False impression with that signal, and we have been speculating about it for 33 years now, but it looks very much like the initial impression it created, that it was a warning to all space travelers to stay away, was completely FALSE and what it actually is, is a cry out for help and given the nature of the derelict's cargo, I can see why now clear as day. There are XENO-CODED ampules on board who's destination was the planet on which the Engineer's are attempting to manufacture the perfect Weapon !!! It all fits !!! & LIke a Glove at that. !!!

Which version are you watching?The original version is by far the creepiest, but if you watch the Director's cut Bluray, they changed it for some reason.(for the worst imo) And your right, does sound like a Facehugger/Alien sound near the end and I agree on why the signal is being sent.A warning

I was watching the DVD directors cut (2003), I'm not a fan of the rip off called Blu-Ray. I agree, Ripley refers to it as a warning to Ash when she studies it as Dallas, Lambert and Kane explore the Derelict.

it's hard to speculate without all the facts, but hey... that's what the internet is for. ash's directives have him secretive yet giddy as hell and he may know the background of the derelict and the contents inside... as well as the reason for the looping message. mother decodes some of the message and it seems like a warning to ripley. but that is all we know.

as ASH was so is Ripley... 100% completely wrong It is a message to the fellow engineers further more THE CHARACTER OF "Ripley" says this in the OPENING of Aliens... "HAVE IQ'S JUST DROPPED CONSIDERABLY HERE?... MAM...I ALREADY SAID IT'S NOT INDIGINEOUS, IT'S NOT OF THE PLANET, DON'T YOU GET IT...WE HOMED IN ON IT'S BEACON" NO ENGINEER IS SENDING OUT NO WARNING TO NO ONE AFTER HE CRASHED LIKE THAT, IT'S A MESSAGE TO HIS FELLOW ENGINEERS TO COME TO HIS ASSISTANCE AND LET THEM KNOW THERE IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHICH HAS DEVELOPED. HE HAD TO BE ALIVE AFTER THE SHIP CRASHED OR OR IT WAS AUTOMATIC ON THE SHIP CRASHING, EITHER WAY, AFTER THINKING THIS ALL THROUGH, THERE IS NO LOGICAL WAY THE SIGNAL WAS A WARNING, BOTH RIPLEY & ASH WERE WRONG AND MORE WRONG AND IN THAT ORDER. LET'S ASSUME IT WAS THOUGH, FOR WHAT? TO WHO? IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE THAT WAY!!!

since weyland was part of prometheus and ash was keeping his secrets from the rest of the nostromo group, it's feasible to think that ash has knowledge of the engineers and what cargo is on the derelict spacecraft.

Sorry guys just wanted to ask since you were commenting on the DVD and Blu Ray Editions. Is there a difference between the DVD Directors Cut and the Blu Ray Directors Cut????

As far as the *sound* of the 'signal' scene that was incorporated into the 'Director's Cut', I was really disappointed that Ridley didn't use the original, creepy-sounding gutteral sounds heard in the 'deleted scene' version on the original DVD. Why he changed that to the bland, not creepy-sounding version that we ended up with, I'll never know. I was so looking forward to hearing that original sound incorporated into the 'Director's Cut' when I read the scene was going to be used. I guess I'll maybe make my own 'fan edit' of the 'Director's Cut' sometime, and add the creepier 'signal' sound myself. And move the re-incorporated 'Dallas/egg transformation' scene to a little earlier in the movie too...as Ridley spoilt the pacing with where he added it, as far as I'm concerned. And as a final nitpick, I wish he'd used the 'deleted scene' version of that, which I thought was superior too. Still looking forward to PROMETHEUS more than anything else this year though!

it even looks like he does when he gets in the overlook pod while the crew members make their way along the surface of LV-426. At one point Ripley mentions the signal and tells Ash she's going out there to tell them, BUT ASH stops her. He says..."What's the point, I mean by the time you get out there they will know if it is a warning or not, no?" He then gives a deep sigh after he gets off the communication with her, as if he is annoyed, and to tell ya the truth I watched it, that same cut about 7 times in the past 2 weeks and he seems pissed off with her and impatient with her for the whole film, because clearly he recognizes that Ripley is going to be an obstacle with regard to that creature. Ash is on that ship with a clear agenda, protect the prime directive at all costs! Later we find out just how evil he was and he even tries his own brand of RAPE on Ripley !!! & don't ask me about proving that 'cause I do not have to Ridley Scott himself proved for us all when told us this on the commentary on Quadrilogy box set !!! He and Skerrit even joked about it during the filming and on the commentary and said that the magazinee was trying to choke her wiht was ametaphor...it was a symbol of what was ASH's penis for that moment.

[quote]Sorry guys just wanted to ask since you were commenting on the DVD and Blu Ray Editions. Is there a difference between the DVD Directors Cut and the Blu Ray Directors Cut????[/quote] just the quality of the images and apparently the difference is staggering. For me the Alure of it is the EGG packaging and the tons of hours of new information images and documentarys that were compiled for it and do not appear anywhere else.

I have the DVD and Blu Ray. And i must admit the Blu Ray is unreal crystal clear. A pleasure to watch Alien. I think i had read in a previous post the differences. Cut its just i noticed some were disappointed with certain changes that was all.

Dallas - Acoustical beacon that repeats at intervals of 12 seconds. Kane - SOS? Dallas - Unknown? ... Ripley - Ash. That transmission. MU-TH-UR's deciphered part of it. It doesn't look like an S.O.S. Ash - Well what is it then? Ripley - Well I...it looks like a warning. Note: The DVD chapter when this second scene is playing is called "A Word Of Warning".

He says..."What's the point, I mean by the time you get out there they will know if it is a warning or not, no?" apparently he wasn't so sure himself, which is a direct indication he was LYING. and S.O.S makes ten time more sense ONLY an Engineer's version of that!!!

If the whipping noise in the transmission is the Facehugger attacking the Jockey (which it seems to be) then this suggests that the Jockey knew that his cargo was loose. Thus, being aware of the deadly nature of his cargo the Jockey sends a warning, to keep anyone away, while he can (which turned out to be 12 seconds). Regards the signal being intended for other Jockey's, we don't know how active and widespread the Jockey's are. From what we have seen in Alien, and the glimpses of Prometheus one can logically presume the Jockey's are few and far between, thus a warning to anyone nearby makes more sense than an S.O.S. to someone whom may not be nearby or even exist.

I haven't watched Alien in sometime now, I am going to pop it in right now so I can get what all of you are talking about :)

i like what you wrote but I disagree completely on it being any kind of warning for one reason, They, the Engineer's would not want anyone else NEAR them...they ARE TERRAFORMING planets to create a biomechanical weapon...they do NOT want that technology stolen or exposed, there's no way in my mind whatever the type of message it is that it is intended for anyone other than the Race Of Engineers.

[quote]If the whipping noise in the transmission is the Facehugger attacking the Jockey (which it seems to be) then this suggests that the Jockey knew that his cargo was loose. Thus, being aware of the deadly nature of his cargo the Jockey sends a warning, to keep anyone away, while he can (which turned out to be 12 seconds).[/quote] [b]Exactly.[/b] @ Spartacus [b]He says..."What's the point, I mean by the time you get out there they will know if it is a warning or not, no?" [/b] This is because he doesn't want Ripley to endanger the mission to get a Xeno sample.If she was to warn Dallas that it's a warning and not a SOS, he might turn around and then how would the company/Ash get their sample? Ash knows it's a warning all right, just like he knows what the Xeno is.He's a plant by the company to make sure they bring a Xeno back.

Your facts are impeccable but your conclusion Make no sense what so ever Theusprom . Because the logic you used undeniably points to it being an S.O.S intended for his Fellow Engineers and NOT A RANDOM WARNING TO THE UNIVERSE, warning's do not repeat at intervals of 12 seconds, but S.O.S signals DO repeat, over and over and over at the exact same interval. THE ENGINEER'S WOULD NOT CALL ATTENTION TO A TERRAFORMING BIO-MECHANICAL WEAPON CREATING PROJECT.

Sparky... one lesson we all have to learn is humility. In your mind you are 1000% certain you are right, a presumption based on theories that speak to you and your perspective. This makes a person close minded to other possibilities... For example a while back I logically analysed the logo that will appear in Prometheus and saw the 3 triangles that make up the Y in the Weyland-Yutani logo seen in Aliens, and thus was, as you are now, 1000% certain that the company logo was that of Yutani. We now know from an image of a guy stood next to Ridley, that the logo in question is not for Yutani Corporation and not for Weyland Industries but for Weyland Corporation. Thus... 1. There is no proof that the Space Jockey's are terraforming planets, this is just a theory. 2. Furthermore there is no proof that the Space Jockey's are terraforming planets to create a biomechanical weapon, again this is just theory. 3. There is no proof that the Space Jockey's are creating a biomechanical weapon, yet again this is just theory. 4. Although Prometheus seems to suggest that the Space Jockeys dont like their technology being stolen, this is only a presumption, another theory. Thus is it not plausible to accept that a Space Jockey about to meet his end flying a vessel filled with thousands of deadly creatures would issue a warning in the hope that it would prevent anyone from meeting the same fate. No, it is entirely plausible and based on what we know, while at the same time assuming the Space Jockey to be realitively benign, or at least compassionate.