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xenoman
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012If you compare the original room with the space jockey in alien. The walls have that boney "Giger" feel to them. In the new shots they do not have the same "boney" look to them. I wonder how much work Giger is doing on the movie. I know he is working on the movie, just to what extent?
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Frantz
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012everything look much more metallic than in alien ...is a stylish decision or is part of the plot ? ... the jockey chair is more metallic...the SJ suits are more metallic ...ampules are more metallic than eggs ... what is inside ampules is more metallic than a face hugger ... the SJs ship is much less round ...

Game Over Man!
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012The derelict ship in ALIEN does look more bio-mechanical than the one in Prometheus. We seen that the SJ in alien once sitting in the pilot chair in fact fused with the chair. If you look closely at the pilot chair in the trailers there is a leathery/fleshy clamp where the SJ's back would rest. I believe that triggers some bio fusing mechanism with the SJ and the chair and possibly the whole ship. Maybe that same thing is how the metallic looking urns turn into the leathery eggs that sit within the ships egg/urn cargo. Just a thought.

NCC 1701
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph01/16/2012l`m new to the post , and like most others ,,,,,Can`t wait
what do you guys think about the idea that the eggs in the opening below the SJ ship , each egg were put in a enclosed capsule to transport out of there area of space , but something happen when they landed ??? .
i keep looking at the trailer were the earth crew are walking around the eggs , but the shape of the eggs are not right..

craigamore
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012First off, Giger is doing some work on the film. Ridley has said that Giger, specifically, is making two large murals for the interior of the'establishment' as he calls it in one of the three 3o sec. teaser trailer teasers. Beyond that, nothing specific has been confirmed that I know of.
2nd, in the deleted cocoon sequence from 'Alien', it's obvious the xenomorph began nesting and covering the walls with Its Gigeresque secretions. This is just a guess, but I wonder if what we see in 'Alien' is nesting from the xeno that killed the SpaceJockey.

Game Over Man!
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012I dont think that one xeno that came from the SJ could secret that whole ship. BUT they never did explore the derelict so there could have been other SJs that suffered the same fate. But then that leaves the eggs in the cargo bay a big question mark because of the mechanical lazer/blue mist that was shielding the eggs. The Xeno wouldn't have rigged this up.

craigamore
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012I've always wondered if that laser was less protective than it was a device that 'awakens' the eggs to potential hosts, almost likle the eggs are in their own kind of stasis. I'm mean, can it really be protective? It did nothing to Kane when he broke the beam.

Game Over Man!
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012I think it is a shielding mechanism of some kind to cut off any sense that a living creature is near the egg. I mean Kane walks a good 10 feet or so down that walking strip before he falls down. If that mist hadn't shielded his presence then he would have been face hugged a few steps onto that platform.

deadcell
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012true, but it may have been kind of a way of the engineers to no waste eggs. with no queen what they had was what they had. dont want to waste huggers.

ArchEtech
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012They are pretty similar, I posed a similar question but honestly I think it's simply artistic license and we are reading into it way too much. Alien is a 30 year old film. I wouldn't expect them to carbon copy the former SJ chamber, and it any case the new is prertty fresking close. We are going to see more. More Space Jocky, more ship, more aliens, more more more. The amount of detail that went into that shot of the SJ chair was completely insane, like models in star wars. It was beautiful, and looks beautiful by today's standards. The aren't going to built a full scale derelict, but I'm happy to hear about animatronic models!
in fact I'll wager, that 99% of viewers wouldn't notice or care about the differences. I'm just saying.

ArchEtech
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012At this point we know little more about the SJ, his ship, and whatever the eggs are or came from than we did in 1979. It's fun to speculate!
Honeslty in my opinion the eggs didn't look completely deliberate in the chamber. Like the SJ and his busted up suit, it all looked like an accident to me. something went wrong, very wrong.

Galaxy Dave
MemberOvomorph01/16/2012Hello Xenoman,
I agree and it was a bit concerning that the interior of the SJ command post looked more organic in Alien than in Prometheus. After some thinking I realize the material of the ship is biomechanical, meaning it grows over time. Post mortem, it's been documented that fingernails can continue to grow in humans. In turn, I think the ship still evolves or becomes "arthritic" or boney if you will, before it "dies" over time. The interior is more metallic and smooth at first and grows more biological after a very, very long time. After millennia, SJ becomes fossilized. The events in Prometheus will takes place millennia ago. Hence, there will be time travel in this movie!
Any takers?

walterhiller
MemberOvomorph01/17/2012it's probably a combination of a few things. more expensive material to produce the props. the original stuff looked like plaster or rubber. the new stuff might be fiber glass or resin. and the paintings and detailing definitely looks more skilled and intricate.
keep in mind the derelict interior was a few decades old and the atmospheric conditions were different.
film grain choices also produces a different look.
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