New Alien Canon

craigamore
MemberOvomorphJanuary 16, 20121755 Views30 RepliesProvided 'Prometheus' is as good as we all hope it is, who else out there feels this eager willingness to forget the three sequels and the AVP films ever happened...just let them all go, embracing a new canon, that I suspect, is more in line with the original artistic intent of 'Alien', it's aesthetic and so on?
January 16, 2012
Honestly, I say game on, in particular when it relates to AvP. ALL of the Alien vs Predator movies suck. Every last one of them, especially Requiem. Alien and Aliens are phenomenal films, and Alien 3 is ok, but nothing to write home about. Resurrection had smiling CGI swimming aliens. Seriously...?
So yes, if Alien is canon, then I am willing to accept anything new Ridley will throw at us, regardless of whether it conflicts or goes with Aliens, Alien 3, so forth...
January 16, 2012
I'm not sure if it will necessarily conflict with the films that came later, but I believe it will definitely change our perception of them, knowing more about what the aliens really are and where they come from.
As for AvP, I hope it's implied that the aliens were actually created around the time of Prometheus, thus negating the possibility of the AvP films ever actually taking place.
January 16, 2012
I think we can all agree that the AvP movies suck. But I also agree with Jockey. It can only add more to our perception of the sequels. Even if we see something completely different in Prometheus, the xeno is so complex there are so many different variables. That's what makes the xeno so awesome.
January 16, 2012
In my honest opinion I accept and embrace with love and affection all the Alien films in the series. From Alien to Alien Resurrection. I think they all contributed something to the universe of Alien. AVP can go die! There not canon and those movies failed on fifty million different levels. I will always forget about their existence. They are pure spin offs from the orginal "Alien" character. They have nothing to do with Ripley, Timeline of the original Alien plotline, or storyline in general. So saying they are canon is just pure idiocy.
I can't wait for Ridley Scott's Prometheus and possibly another prequel after since he did mention that he might be doing 2 prequels. I know some people argue that "oh Alien and Aliens are the only good one's in the series." Or even just Alien but it is a series and I really liked every film. Every film had something important to say about Ripley and the story surrounding the Aliens. Also it is a storied franchise with an iconic permutation to it. Ripley's character is consistent so forging out and neglecting Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection is just idiotic in my opinion.
I will take Prometheus and any other prequel Ridley Scott throws at us as another legendary adventure into the Alien series. I believe Prometheus and future prequels Ridley Scott will make are canon as well as Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection since they are part of the orginal storyline that carries Ripley's story with the Alien species . You just CAN'T take those films out of the equation. Your leaving out the rest of the recipe in the story. Everyone has their own opinion about all the Alien films from first to last but in the end they are consistent and Ripley's character is consistent through all of them so you shouldn't just LEAVE a few out. It just doesn't make sense.
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January 16, 2012
i hope prometheus is like a rosetta stone for the series. an explanation to alot of questions, while asking some of its own. maybe im asking alot but damn after all this time, i think i can lol. plus ripleyclone8,dude, you freakin rock. never found somebody that can go qoute for quote with me lol
January 16, 2012
Same here! I hope it answers many questions revolving around the mystery of the first Alien. Apparently not too long after the release of Prometheus Ridley Scott will be prepping up another prequel that follows the birth and lives of the Space Jockey's. And deadcell thanks man! your fucking awesome bro! thats all I can say. Quoting with you fucking rocks!
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January 16, 2012
i still have the feeling they are gonna hack starcraft though, humans were the engineers first creation but with there reasoning were too much, so they then created the xenos but they were too feral and overtook them. i hope not but something tells me
January 16, 2012
Thats how I feel about Prometheus. I read somewhere that the humans might turn some xenomorphs back on the engineers and thats what kills them. But who knows haha, there so many plausible theories surrounding Prometheus, anything is possible.
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January 16, 2012
thats what i love about the trailer, it keeps giveing us questions when we think of answers.thats what makes the waiting all the sweeter. if they dont fuck it up
January 16, 2012
Alien ia a great movie.
Aliens is a different concept but a great movie. Sorry but it is.
Alien 3 wasn't bad, it was creepy like the first one, but was missing something. I liked the set up, hated canceling out the ending of aliens (not necessary), and hated the last act. It was just cheesy for me.
Alien R was just weird. The alien orgy was weird. Ripley as a clone didn't ruin it, but the space pirates did. The movie was still sort of creepy/scary. Didn't hate it but it's forgettable.
All the Alien vs. Predator fims blow. Terrible writing, terrible acting, not scary, stupid fight scenes, stupid decisions by the character. I'm sorry, predator aliens would completely dominate the Xenomorph. Period. Especially with weapons. As an ultimate game animal? Ehh I'm sure there would be worse/deadlier things to hunt when you can travel the galaxy. I don't want to down play Xeno, but the Ridley Scott Alien, is not a Xeno exactly and is more mysterious and probably worse than the bug of Cameron's concept.
I hope the Prometheus canon is back to Ridley Scotts concept, which in all honesty has nothing do do with any of the other movies, nor has been fully realized in all it's disturbing terror from the words comming from his own lips.
January 16, 2012
it seems like they are keeping a simalar score to the movie which i think is awesome. the soundtrack of alien added so much to the tension, another lost art in todays movies
January 16, 2012
we will see if prometheus goes the way of alien, into the stratusphere, or the way of giger's other creation, species, deep deep into the freaking core of the planet
January 16, 2012
I absolutely loved ALIEN and ALIENS. I guess I dont understand why people just like Alien vs Aliens. I thought both were awesome, both had great story lines, suspense, terror....etc. I mean if it is just a grudge of Ridley vs Cameron then thats fine but that doesnt take away from the film. I hate Duke basketball but they always win...hence I acknowledge they are very good in basketball doenst mean i have to like them. I know cheesy example but gets my point across.
Or is it because there are multiple aliens vs just one alien?
I thought Alien 3 was not to the level of the previous two, but I still liked it. Alien Res I thought was the worst of them all. It was I guess bearable to watch until towards the end and it just got ridiculous weird. That abomination that was birthed has to be the stupidest looking and not scary creature ever.
January 16, 2012
Well remember the look of the alien was Geiger, not the concept. Mthe movie concept was Ridley.
January 16, 2012
@craigamore: i'm with you on that one man!
i am really going to put absolute faith in Ridley this time.
giving HIM the benefit of the doubt in regards to this new direction he's taken
with PROMETHEUS. i can't really recall a film that i have so eagerly awaited
perhaps with the exception of TRON:Legacy, have i been this excited for a
continuation of a story and am actually looking forward to having my simple
mind blown to smithereens, much the way it was when i first saw ALIEN
granted, there is a chance my lofty expectations for this film could not be met,
at the same time, Ridley hasn't put forth a proper science fiction film since 1982,
so i am going to trust the HE above ALL others will deliver on what Cameron
promised - - yet sadly failed to deliver
i will credit Alien3 and David Fincher for at least trying to be original,
that film just didn't do it for me the way i had hoped it would. still, i dig that film
as for the "AVP" nonsense, i do my best to understand that they have NO PLACE
in the universe that Ridley Scot and the late great Dan O'Bannon seduced me into
with that said,
i'm happy to know there are other folks who feel as i do about ALIEN,
and all the reductive "sequels" that followed such an iconic work of cinematic art
June 8th 2012 can't get here fast enough!
January 16, 2012
what i like about this is that he is not making it an alien movie. its now somthing much grander and bigger. and think about it maybe after watcing this it will change the story the canon will have changed alot. before when we watched alien we would look at the jockey and wonder. now when we watch alien. we will either feel sorry for the jockey or hate its guts. but now we will really see how deep the alien universe or should i say ( the jockey universe) really goes. maybe after watching prometheus we can see that maybe it relates to not just the alien universe but to everything
January 17, 2012
In my opinion:
Aliens was my favorite film of them all. then as I got older, I realized how great Alien is. Two different type of films but great by themselves. Alien 3 was ok, but this is where it fell off for me. They killed off Newt and Hicks, and at the end killed off Ripley. I am not saying they sould not have killed her off but the way they did could have been different. Alien R was just trying to hard in my opinion. Parts were to goofy for me, and maybe not taken to seriously. Prometheus look like Ridley Scott is bringing credability back to the series or to a individual film or "prequel reboot". It does look epic to me and ready to see it already.