New Alien Canon

Honestly, I say game on, in particular when it relates to AvP. ALL of the Alien vs Predator movies suck. Every last one of them, especially Requiem. Alien and Aliens are phenomenal films, and Alien 3 is ok, but nothing to write home about. Resurrection had smiling CGI swimming aliens. Seriously...? So yes, if Alien is canon, then I am willing to accept anything new Ridley will throw at us, regardless of whether it conflicts or goes with Aliens, Alien 3, so forth...

I'm not sure if it will necessarily conflict with the films that came later, but I believe it will definitely change our perception of them, knowing more about what the aliens really are and where they come from. As for AvP, I hope it's implied that the aliens were actually created around the time of Prometheus, thus negating the possibility of the AvP films ever actually taking place.

Good point Jockey2016...anything to stop that awful AVP nonsense.

I think we can all agree that the AvP movies suck. But I also agree with Jockey. It can only add more to our perception of the sequels. Even if we see something completely different in Prometheus, the xeno is so complex there are so many different variables. That's what makes the xeno so awesome.

In my honest opinion I accept and embrace with love and affection all the Alien films in the series. From Alien to Alien Resurrection. I think they all contributed something to the universe of Alien. AVP can go die! There not canon and those movies failed on fifty million different levels. I will always forget about their existence. They are pure spin offs from the orginal "Alien" character. They have nothing to do with Ripley, Timeline of the original Alien plotline, or storyline in general. So saying they are canon is just pure idiocy. I can't wait for Ridley Scott's Prometheus and possibly another prequel after since he did mention that he might be doing 2 prequels. I know some people argue that "oh Alien and Aliens are the only good one's in the series." Or even just Alien but it is a series and I really liked every film. Every film had something important to say about Ripley and the story surrounding the Aliens. Also it is a storied franchise with an iconic permutation to it. Ripley's character is consistent so forging out and neglecting Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection is just idiotic in my opinion. I will take Prometheus and any other prequel Ridley Scott throws at us as another legendary adventure into the Alien series. I believe Prometheus and future prequels Ridley Scott will make are canon as well as Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection since they are part of the orginal storyline that carries Ripley's story with the Alien species . You just CAN'T take those films out of the equation. Your leaving out the rest of the recipe in the story. Everyone has their own opinion about all the Alien films from first to last but in the end they are consistent and Ripley's character is consistent through all of them so you shouldn't just LEAVE a few out. It just doesn't make sense.

i hope prometheus is like a rosetta stone for the series. an explanation to alot of questions, while asking some of its own. maybe im asking alot but damn after all this time, i think i can lol. plus ripleyclone8,dude, you freakin rock. never found somebody that can go qoute for quote with me lol

Same here! I hope it answers many questions revolving around the mystery of the first Alien. Apparently not too long after the release of Prometheus Ridley Scott will be prepping up another prequel that follows the birth and lives of the Space Jockey's. And deadcell thanks man! your fucking awesome bro! thats all I can say. Quoting with you fucking rocks!

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I'm jamming out to some Rolling Stones right now lol!

i still have the feeling they are gonna hack starcraft though, humans were the engineers first creation but with there reasoning were too much, so they then created the xenos but they were too feral and overtook them. i hope not but something tells me

Thats how I feel about Prometheus. I read somewhere that the humans might turn some xenomorphs back on the engineers and thats what kills them. But who knows haha, there so many plausible theories surrounding Prometheus, anything is possible.

thats what i love about the trailer, it keeps giveing us questions when we think of answers.thats what makes the waiting all the sweeter. if they dont fuck it up

Alien ia a great movie. Aliens is a different concept but a great movie. Sorry but it is. Alien 3 wasn't bad, it was creepy like the first one, but was missing something. I liked the set up, hated canceling out the ending of aliens (not necessary), and hated the last act. It was just cheesy for me. Alien R was just weird. The alien orgy was weird. Ripley as a clone didn't ruin it, but the space pirates did. The movie was still sort of creepy/scary. Didn't hate it but it's forgettable. All the Alien vs. Predator fims blow. Terrible writing, terrible acting, not scary, stupid fight scenes, stupid decisions by the character. I'm sorry, predator aliens would completely dominate the Xenomorph. Period. Especially with weapons. As an ultimate game animal? Ehh I'm sure there would be worse/deadlier things to hunt when you can travel the galaxy. I don't want to down play Xeno, but the Ridley Scott Alien, is not a Xeno exactly and is more mysterious and probably worse than the bug of Cameron's concept. I hope the Prometheus canon is back to Ridley Scotts concept, which in all honesty has nothing do do with any of the other movies, nor has been fully realized in all it's disturbing terror from the words comming from his own lips.

it seems like they are keeping a simalar score to the movie which i think is awesome. the soundtrack of alien added so much to the tension, another lost art in todays movies

we will see if prometheus goes the way of alien, into the stratusphere, or the way of giger's other creation, species, deep deep into the freaking core of the planet

I absolutely loved ALIEN and ALIENS. I guess I dont understand why people just like Alien vs Aliens. I thought both were awesome, both had great story lines, suspense, terror....etc. I mean if it is just a grudge of Ridley vs Cameron then thats fine but that doesnt take away from the film. I hate Duke basketball but they always win...hence I acknowledge they are very good in basketball doenst mean i have to like them. I know cheesy example but gets my point across. Or is it because there are multiple aliens vs just one alien? I thought Alien 3 was not to the level of the previous two, but I still liked it. Alien Res I thought was the worst of them all. It was I guess bearable to watch until towards the end and it just got ridiculous weird. That abomination that was birthed has to be the stupidest looking and not scary creature ever.

Well remember the look of the alien was Geiger, not the concept. Mthe movie concept was Ridley.

@craigamore: i'm with you on that one man! i am really going to put absolute faith in Ridley this time. giving HIM the benefit of the doubt in regards to this new direction he's taken with PROMETHEUS. i can't really recall a film that i have so eagerly awaited perhaps with the exception of TRON:Legacy, have i been this excited for a continuation of a story and am actually looking forward to having my simple mind blown to smithereens, much the way it was when i first saw ALIEN granted, there is a chance my lofty expectations for this film could not be met, at the same time, Ridley hasn't put forth a proper science fiction film since 1982, so i am going to trust the HE above ALL others will deliver on what Cameron promised - - yet sadly failed to deliver i will credit Alien3 and David Fincher for at least trying to be original, that film just didn't do it for me the way i had hoped it would. still, i dig that film as for the "AVP" nonsense, i do my best to understand that they have NO PLACE in the universe that Ridley Scot and the late great Dan O'Bannon seduced me into with that said, i'm happy to know there are other folks who feel as i do about ALIEN, and all the reductive "sequels" that followed such an iconic work of cinematic art June 8th 2012 can't get here fast enough!

what i like about this is that he is not making it an alien movie. its now somthing much grander and bigger. and think about it maybe after watcing this it will change the story the canon will have changed alot. before when we watched alien we would look at the jockey and wonder. now when we watch alien. we will either feel sorry for the jockey or hate its guts. but now we will really see how deep the alien universe or should i say ( the jockey universe) really goes. maybe after watching prometheus we can see that maybe it relates to not just the alien universe but to everything

In my opinion: Aliens was my favorite film of them all. then as I got older, I realized how great Alien is. Two different type of films but great by themselves. Alien 3 was ok, but this is where it fell off for me. They killed off Newt and Hicks, and at the end killed off Ripley. I am not saying they sould not have killed her off but the way they did could have been different. Alien R was just trying to hard in my opinion. Parts were to goofy for me, and maybe not taken to seriously. Prometheus look like Ridley Scott is bringing credability back to the series or to a individual film or "prequel reboot". It does look epic to me and ready to see it already.

i've already forgotten the sequels even exist. if ridley scott wants to redo the whole deal, good for him. it's his original vision, he has the right to do it. lets hope the fanboys and studioheads will allow him.

@Ripley Clone 8, you mean you even liked the "new born" alien in Alien Ressurection? To me that murdered any hope that film had. In my opinion, the reason Alien is head and shoulders above the rest is primarily because of the alien itself: it was cerebral, self-assured, patient, strategic, and nastier than anything you can imagine when killing. Also it went through five people (including Kane), all on its own - granted the humans didn't really have weapons to fight back. Now Aliens is a fantastic movie no-doubt but you have to admit there is a level of dumbing down the alien. Gone is the divide-and-conquer ingenuity displayed by Ridley's alien. Instead we have drones that just come at you regardless. So just on that basis alone, I admire Alien more than Aliens. Alien 3 for me was a failed star. Contrary to most views, Ripley's death was perfect and the best part of that film. Because the series does need closure for it to held in high esteem (Chris Nolan has the right idea). Ripley descending into fire having just daughtered a queen alien was a sublime ending for me: end of a species and it's greatest adversary. Alien Resurrection.... the "new born" alien... need I say more? And AvP trash, well I thin we are all in agreement about those.

The only not stupid part of AVP 1/2 was the end of Requiem when Yutani are presented with Predator tech, indicating how that company became so technologically advanced. . .

i remember going to ALIENS in the Arches in glasgow before Alien 3 came out, was a bit of a laugh....and then, when i saw the movie i was just absolutely gutted that newt had died. this however set the tone of the film for me and gave it a realism and harshness that completley severed it from the normal holywood bs. Finchers debut was dark and desperate,but deeply rewarding in terms of character interest, i think while it may not be the best alien film it has earned its place. previous alien films still stand alone to this day. avp etc is just a bit of fun, and i watch whatever one im in the mood for!! new member enjoying the site and all the crazy theories!!! rgds chris

Alien has always been the BEST film ever!! Cameron's Aliens was the second best film ever, but I had a differing view of the Alien life cycle based upon the "extra footage" of alien that was not seen at the time of its original release. To keep true to Cameron's story line about a "queen" who lays the eggs I had imagined that the original Alien had taken Brett, mutated him into a "queen" egg, and was planning to take another crew member to be host for the queen. Since Dallas was also taken and being mutated I assumed this was so the queen could have two guards and/or mates (I have always thought of the original Alien as a "warrior" of the species). Had Parker not attacked then Lambert would have been the host for the queen. Having killed Parker and Lambert (leaving them for future sustenance perhaps?) then Ripley was the only viable host for the queen, hence the reason the Alien never attacked her, it only stalked an taunted. I imagine the Nostromo would have ended up like SJ's ship in the end; crashed on some planet with an Alien hive filled with eggs just waiting for an unsuspecting host to find it, had the Alien succeeded in catching Ripley (given too that only if she successfully disarmed Mother's destruct sequence). I agree that Alien 3 and Resurrection have a place in the storyline, however I despise the way the filmmakers "perverted" the look of a "perfect organism"! The original Alien was not covered in slime!!! His head, silvery/black and shaped like a mutated penis, was smooth and not slimy. Cameron also ruined the look of the Alien by changing the structure of the head and making the drones so "weak"! Aliens did not have the sadism of the original Alien, it was not very frightening at all, but it did give great action in the end with Ripley fighting the queen. In my mind Alien 3 and Resurrection were merely "dreams" Ripley was having while still in cryo-stasis on the Sulaco. I'm still waiting for someone to pick up the storyline there if there are to be future sequels. They can write off the aging of Ripley, Hicks, and Newt as defective cryo-chambers thanks to Burke. AVP and AVP-R SUCKED and never should have been made AT ALL!!! The Predator was a totally different species from a totally different universe and he should have stayed that way. I am dying to see where Ridley goes with Prometheus. From viewing the trailer (a million times now???) I get the feeling of Alien again and I wish he could release it early as I'm sure it would still be playing long into the summer and beyond!!! I would probably go see it every day (as I did with Alien)!!!!

I'm all for writing off Alien 3, Resurection and the horrificly bad AVP movies. Keep it tight and sweet - Prometheus, Alien, Aliens. Everything else never happened - It was all a bad hypersleep dream.

why dont we just make all the films dreams...? come to think of it, prometheus can be ripleys alien prequel dream im just day dreaming here..LOL

Fyi Ripley8... the Stones finally released Live in Texas 78... The greatest concert film of all time, that no one has seen. Those of us who are hardcore fans have been waiting for it for years.

@Starbeast Yeah, I loved the new born. I thought it was creepy and terrifying. It showed you how what the scientist did with all that genetic manipulation going on how it can fuck of the genetic makeup of the Aliens and how they breed. How the Alien Queen added a second breeding cycle was interesting. But yes I loved it. I honestly don't see how it necessarily ruined anything, if anything it added more to it.

@craigamore, Clever question.. I'll go with any rewrite Ridley wants. It seems like with this movie, we are getting back to the real story.. lol.