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PerfectOrganism
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012I know I'm going to get booed for this (sorry) but I have had an idea kicking around in my head for a long time since I heard this movie got the go ahead from fox. I was wondering, if the jockey's manipulated the beginning of lots of life throughout the universe, wasn't it also possible that (eeep) they created the Predator creatures too?
Hear me out. As I said before, I believe the Jockey's are evil beyond all understanding of the word, and perhaps the Predators evolution was due to them discovering their creators and realising they had no good intentions towards them, or us, whatsoever, so they evolved into powerful hunters in order to stalk and kill the uber-powerful Jockeys. Perhaps then the jockey's needed a more mobile perfect weapon to fight back and thus, created the xeno we all adore.
I know there will be no pred or pred refs in this movie, but we do all love and cherish the comics, and take a lot of what is in them as cannon to the movies. Would it be so wrong to have just a tiny nod to the Predator fan boys in there too? I bet a good percentage of the true hardcore fans who want to see this, are there because of their love for both creatures.
Ok guys, no need for the stones and rotten tomatoes, it was just a theory. And I love stirring up controversy, lol
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Xenophobe
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012@Perfectorganism - Good thinking there! I know what you mean, some people on here have a chip on their shoulders regarding new people or theories. . . Infidels! Well I'll just say honestly. . . My opinion is more that the xenomorphs were an accidental creation by the Space Jockey's, which was a result of the human intervention we'll see in Prometheus. So in a sense, humanity would be the creator of it's own doom type scenario. Also we'll see that the SJ's are such an advanced society, they don't have any care for good/evil in the known universe, they probably go around doing what they wish to planets and species so they find the xeno's just a stupid creature but will ultimately suffer and it'll all be because of us. . .
PerfectOrganism
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012the stupidity of mankind knows no bounds
I bet you any money Weyland corp is a banking conglomerate, lol
Xenophobe
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Either that or some kinda company similar to Umbrella Corp. in the Resident Evil franchise. They cover a whole variety of different areas - Technology advancement, everyday business stuff, top secret military research etc.
PerfectOrganism
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012lol@spartacus. I bet they have upped the VAT on all those products buddy. hahaha.
Lyle, In gigers mind, the derelict was a mean piece of work. In one of his paintings it shows the actual ground beneath the ship trying to squirm away from it. Even the planet surface is revolted by the SJ's. so yes, I am of the opinion that the Jockeys are indeed, the epitome of perverse evil. I'm thinking, cenobites in space, but worse, lol. Although, as was stated before, they probably are so far advanced that they don't even see things as we do, ie, good and bad, etc. they are just that way by design. I'm still convinced that the original intent of the derelict and the Jockey is that they were all one living organism, and for some reason, I cant shake the feeling that they are the 'rapers' of planets, even though Ridley has decided to change this, the Jockeys being symbiants(?)inside suits, probably to fit in a more 'human' angle more suited to the audience of today.
hope that all made sense there lol, i need my caffeine and nicotine intake lol
PerfectOrganism
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012A finger in every pie, so to speak. And in that case, I guess we are all expendable, lol. not just the Nostromo crew.
not even the Xeno is as lethal or bad-ass as a multinational corporation, lol. Just picture Asda in space.
Xenophobe
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Ha well in AR, Weyland-Yutani got bought out by Wal-Mart who own. . . Asda! It's a conspiracy! Anyway back on the right tangent lol. Do you think that the SJ are really the evil ones in this Alien franchise??
Spartacus
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Lyle ›
Posted 01/21/2012
Either that or some kinda company similar to Umbrella Corp. in the Resident Evil franchise. They cover a whole variety of different areas - Technology advancement, everyday business stuff, top secret military research etc.[/quote]
They could even put up a convenience store for Supplies in Space.
I'll take 3 "Roman Scotch Noodle Box's"
6 Flamethrowers
4 Grenade Launchers
2 Red Laser Cavern & Egg Scanners
& a Big roll of duct tape please.
Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Hahahahahahahaha...I was just thinking and planning the same trip !!!
"Beer Run" !!!
GoldenFleece
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012I really hope that humans are not responsible for the creation of the xenomorph either intentionallly are accidentally. We are not the centre of the universe were everything we do in space has massive consequences for everyone else.
PerfectOrganism
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012I have always held the belief that the Jockeys used the DNA of all the deadliest species they had encountered or created and combined them to make the Alien. I think they may well have taken a strand of our violent warmongering genes just to up the ante and improve their design. We are after all, the most destructive force in the galaxy.
'You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage.'
red hood
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Why not included the thing too. Maybe all the creatures have the same coords to the planet. Thus a orgy feast for the SJ.
red hood
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Why not included the thing too. Maybe all the creatures have the same coords to the planet. Thus a orgy feast for the SJ.
db
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012So... We are the worms on the hook, we are the ants under the looking glass on a sunny day. The SJs are us. No more thought or guilt considered for their actions toward us than ours are towards a chicken nugget.
BellaisanAlien
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Sounds the perfect story for what AVP should have been; take out the humans, just Predators, Aliens and Space Jockey's. More blood and guts and you have the perfect film....
Engineer Prototype - Model GAJ84
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012@ Perfectorganism, your theory is quite sound. It reminds me of Frankenstiens monster, the creation destoys the creator.
centaurian_slug
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012whilst the action side of aliens fit in the Predator universe ...
.. I don't think Predator fits in the Alien - Prometheus universe ..at all.
Very different style of sci-fi.
AvP is a great idea for a game, maybe comics, leave it at that :)
Starbeast
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Personally, I think comics are not canon unless the original source material was a comic.
Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012So... We are the worms on the hook, we are the ants under the looking glass on a sunny day. The SJs are us. No more thought or guilt considered for their actions toward us than ours are towards a chicken nugget.
Funny you mention Ants, because in the entire Alien Franchise Of Images...THIS...is my all time favorite from all 4 Original films...
[url=http://youtu.be/zwCWzGje8Ds]AlienAntChild[/url]
Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Ok maybe it's not an Ant, more like some baby coackroach, but never the less, I still get wound up every time I watch that opening sequence. I would dearly love to see the Xenomorph's original and tiniest state of existence.
walterhiller
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012disregarding the alien-lites from the sequels, a likely possibility. remember, the original alien life form is supposed to be a perfect hunter and survivor. not something a band of marines just decimates with chain guns.
PerfectOrganism2
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012Sorry people. only just been able to get back on with a new account. You have no idea how frustrating it is not being able to reply to your own posts when others have, lol.
RedHood. I adore 'The Thing' its also one of my all time fave sci fi movies. Incidentally, I haven't seen the prequel to it but I'm led to believe it's not a patch on the original. Perhaps if they had gotten Carpenter to do it, like with Ridley and Prometheus, it would be as good as the original(remake)lol. I saw the original 50s version when I was a nipper and still love the vegetable Frankenstein creature to this day.
Watching the old 50s B movies is when I first fell in love with this genre. It captivates the imagination on so many levels. Such inspiring stuff. Amazing
The sci-fi movies of this day and age may have massive budgets, but they are created for the brainless sheeple audience who would rather see a thousand bodies torn into shreds by a CG monster than actually indulge in a bit of quality story telling. Lets hope Ridley can put all this to rights. Its a huge burden, but if anyone can.....
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