Pondering

stop pondering. you're not very good at it.

I always thought the head in the lab was in fact the one being examined by Shaw in, or near, the ampule chamber along with the SJ suit laying behind her.

The biomechanical nature of the alien technology means that it is both a skull and a helmet at the same time. The difference is that a brain doesn't go inside it, instead another head of some sort goes inside it. You can read "find a clue to the origins of mankind on earth" as 'find a clue - to the origins of - mankind - on earth', or as 'find a clue - to the origins of - mankind on earth'. So there could be some deliberate ambiguity there: the clue itself is found on Earth? Or perhaps the clue is about mankind as far as Earth is concerned - which would entail that mankind exists in other parts of the galaxy (hence the tall blue baldy guy).

Ok 1st of all, Scott has stated over and over that most of this film will take place on a planet Called Zeta Reticuli, and while I agree completely that it is not a known planet, ZETA2RETICULI IS a planet, and I just assumed that this is what he meant. 2nd of all, I did not sleep to well last night so before I go back to bed I want to tell you what I learned while I got tossed and turned though 4 1/2 hours of shut eye... I decided that the AMPULE room HAS TO BE ON EARTH !!! Ridley Scott has made pretty much ONLY ONE and a HALF things clear as a bell this entire past year...the fact that somewhere in this film mankind finds clues to it's origins and existence...on Earth {we're not sure because of the vagueness of this statement whether he intends for the clues to be found on Earth as well} And, that he will 100% and defnitively explore the Ancient Astronaught Theory first made popular in the TV series "Ancient Aliens" Someone mentioned an Earth Based tribe from thousands of years ago who's writings are stenciled into the Big Giant head in the Ampule Room and on the SJ vessel as well. The Ampule room has to be the discovery, it's gotta be on earth, also the no space helmet thing in thier, Earth has a breathable atmosphere so helmets would not be needed, and the suggestions regarding the culture of the Ancient Aliens {The Space Jockeys they must be}, is starting to sound a lot to me like an Ancient MAYAN culture too... The expression "Calling Card" did not phase me, what did was hearing so many insist that the Space Jockeys left something ON Earth...so I thought Long and Hard about it and it makes perfect sense, STONE HENDGE and THE GREAT PYRAMID of GEEZA are the two biggest mysterious we know of On Earth...and I bet we see BOTH in this film..I bet one of them has a secret passage that leads to the Ampule Room...and it's probably the great pyramid of Geeza. Ridley is tying the Ancient Astronaught theory from Ancient Aliens into this whole film. This IS in fact going to be about the Origins of Mankind On Earth. The Ampules can contain ONLY thing now to me...the Weaponized...purest original form...OF THE XENOMORPH. THEY HAVE ALREADY CONVERTED THIS CREATURE INTO A BIO MECHANICAL WEAPON THEY USE FOR TERRAFROMING...IT IS THE XENOMORPH THAT IS BIOMECHANICAL...IT IS THE XENOMORPH IN IT'S MOST INFANTILE STATE THAT IS THE CATALYST FOR THIS ENTIRE FILM. Their Home world is Zeta2Reticlui OR they have been Harvested there by the Space Jockeys. Some crew for the Prometheus take/steal some of the Ampules from the chamber on Earth for study. They get caught and the Space Jockeys are not pleased ONE bit about it. They decide to whipe out the race of Humans and to Terraform their world when done. They pack up a ship with Ampules, they are going to drop a cargo of Xeno's on earth, But on the way something happens and they end up crashing not on Earth, not on Zeta2Retuli, but LV-426...that's the very end of the movie we are seeing in the clip. The Key is this...In an "Alien" extended scene we Heard the Alien Transmission which I have argued forever that we still do Not know 100% what it was...I think I do Now and why it was in a voice.... It is NOT an S.O.S and it is NOT a warning...it was a message in the language of the SJ's that was sent BACK TO THEM so they could find him and get that whole situation either fixed, or to decide if they need to terraform LV-426 now. Bottom line is it was in a space mans language, HIS not ours, so it had to be intended for his home world, and there is the fact that if the crew have that recording so DID MOTHER and The Company so it is HIGHLY LIKELY that the crashing Derelict we are seeing, is in fact a victim of an attack perpetrated by The Company to stop the Derelict and it's cargo from ever reaching Earth!!! The End !!! Works Perfectly for me !!! This is all about the Ancient Alien theory, and the reason it turns out they aren't helping us anymore, is What the company did to their cargo ship on it's course to earth, and the act of the Prometheus crew stealing some of the Ampules. Remember.... Prometheus was punished for Theft !!! I love it !!! The Ampule Room has to be on Earth at either Stonehenge or The Great Pyramid of Geeza IMO !!! This is why I am now of the belief, that the clues to Mankind's origin are in fact found on Earth!

I agree with you @Spartacus that something's found on earth...but the 40 ft. monolithic head/ampule room?...I don't know about that. Aren't they all gussied up in their spacesuits? [img]http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/PROMETHEUS-Logan-Marshall-Green-Noomi-Rapace-Michael-Fassbender-600x440.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/prometheus-featured.jpg[/img] [img]http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/PROMETHEUS-Noomi-Rapace-Kate-Dickie-Michael-Fassbender-Ampule-room-600x288.jpg[/img] and if you read the caption unde that first pic...it says 'Logan Marshall Green, Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender explore a planet in the darkest corners of the universe'...............I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

Craigamore, it's underground, and the SJ's are a "Burrowing" tribe from what I have come to understand.

But why are they in those suits?...it doesn't jive.

it's their means of travel and of protection when in another races atmosphere. But I like it and I like what you wrote about the caption under one of the pics very great points...Either way I think I am getting closer to seeing where this all going !!!!

My two cents on the ampule room is that it is in fact on the distant planet... They find something on Earth (probably one of Gigers murals) They venture to the planet and locate the temple I spotted (again, based on Gigers work) One RT and two ATV's head to the temple. Inside the temple they find a a well that leads them to a series of caves (gigeresque in shape) During this time something happens to Holloways helmet and he starts to suffocate, they rush him to the entrance to the Ampule room and he starts to breath. The caves lead them to the ampule room, where they come across the remains of a dead Space Jockey. They bag the SJ's HEAD as they also notice the big human head icon, surrounded by Ampules. They realise this is what they are here to find. David bags an Ampule. Beyond that I don't know until they return to their ship, whereupon a storm hits sending Shaw flying past the ships landing gear.

"One of Gigers Murals"...lol...i lOVE IT !!!

Very well thought out sumation Snorkelbottom....I love the suggestion that one of the two Giger murals Scott has mentioned is what they find on earth...very interesting. And thanks Spartacus...either way, it's clear they find something here on earth...who knows what...we'll just have to wait and see..and I am so sick of having to write we'll just have to wait and see, wait and see, wait and see, wait and see.... I sound just like a regular parrot. Yeah, shape up. What am I, some kind of parrot? Right!

lol, "ditto" bro...."Ditto" !!!

Well there is this thread I did a while back, that shows all the temple-ampule room element from pics from the trailer, but I have since realised that Holloway doesn't become the mutant... [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/423]???Prometheus???[/url]

Maybe Ridley would have them (whomever it is in the foreground) wearing the suit in deep space as a way of pulling rank. dont forget, this isn't the Nostromo where they were all more or less the same, engineers, truckers, etc. I'm pretty sure that whoever is in charge of our first (probably) foray into deep space to uncover our origins and find extra terrestrial life, would be in full regalia to keep the grunts and lower workers in understanding of who is running this shinndig and whose money they using.

great point man, the question of that suit and of the helmet or head is sticking out like a sore thumb now!

sorry Sparty, just read your theory and it's outstanding. you don't work for Ridley do you? lol

@Spartacus Hey dude - I think your info is wrong regarding Zeta2Riticuli - -That is the SYSTEM that LV 426 is in. Far as I knew its not a planet - its the system.

Yes, and thanks and i was just relaying what I believe was the way Ridley said it and Yes I am not familiar with the details as much as you guys "fo sho" but I do know it is a star system and there are some planets there so one of them should be the one Ridley must be referring to right?

he may have even meant LV-426 then...so like I said WE NOW KNOW WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE TRAILER IS THE SHIP CRASHING ON GOOD 'OLE LV-426 WELL DONE GENTLEMEN !!!

did we not always know this? Were you ever in doubt?

I think you need to go get laid Spartacus....your tension, anxiety and self rightousness on all things Prometheus is palpable!

right.

LOLS HP :)

@Ghost Solitaire: Do you have exclusive access to the official "Prometheus" script such that you know that the movie has the SJs leaving a calling card on earth? @Spartacus: I think with the Engineers and their biomechanical abilities, anything is possible, even a helmet that looks like a head.

"I decided that the AMPULE room HAS TO BE ON EARTH !!!" Here on Earth, as it is in Heaven

Maybe I should confess I was a bit out of it had been going at these boards all night or most of it anyways and when I read what The High Priest wrote I took i t all as good sound and honest although difficult to swallow advice and did as he suggested.

Man, I wouldn't trust a priest telling me to get laid. Good to have you back though, Spart!

@spartacus Damn glad to hear you released some of that tension brother! onwards we march!

I just read this post from top to bottom lol ohhhhh sparty you got it bad mate when you actually are losing sleep over this delightful film lol.

lmao you said it

In the movie "The independence day" the alien's had a bio-suit on them...... This will be the case of SJ aswell Alien in suit:- [img]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww105/habid_m/20021-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww105/habid_m/alien.jpg[/img] Alien without suit:- [img]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww105/habid_m/id4_american_gallery.jpg[/img] Aliens Universe : Independence Day Homeworld : Unknown Habitat : Earth-like Size : Shorter than Humans (natural) ~8 feet tall (in biosuit) Diet : Unknown Language : Telepathic Sapience Level : Sapient Subspecies : Unknown Physically, they are no more durable than a Human, but they do possess far superior technology, including enormous fleets of ships; defense fields to prevent missiles from reaching their ships' hulls; highly destructive weaponry and protective biomechanical suits. The aliens have a slender, quasi-humanoid body with three-jointed limbs and only two digits on their hands and feet. Their head is enlarged. They have large, pupil-less eyes (or eye-like organs) and a number of long, grasping tentacles protruding from their suits' backs. Lacking both ears and vocal chords, they communicate using a sophisticated form of telepathy. They are also able to control other beings, at least partially, by attaching tentacles to their necks. They apparently do this in order to communicate with non-telepathic species. They travel around the galaxy in a single, massive Mothership that is around 550km in diameter. This ship can deploy numerous smaller, city-sized spacecraft. When invading an inhabited planet, the aliens' military tactics consist of large-scale attacks, destroying the major cities around the globe simultaneously and then heading to the next largest, presumably going on until there is nothing left. This species breathes oxygen and requires similar environmental conditions to humans, which is the reason why they got interested on Earth in first place. Although a single alien ship crashed on Roswell in 1947, the real invasion only started in 1996. At the end, the aliens were defeated and possibly driven to extinction thanks to the creation of a computer virus which temporarily removed the alien ships' shields, followed by a devastating nuclear attack on their orbiting mothership.

[quote]did we not always know this? Were you ever in doubt? [/quote] I don't know about him, but I [i]do[/i] have doubts that what we see in the trailer is, in fact, the "derelict" crashing on LV426.