Helmet or Skull?

I think this question should have been closed since Ridley told us it was just a suit or something similiar, and not a skull....He also said that his purpose was to tell the story about the guy inside the suit...I think the idea of SJs as humanoid Gods looks much better than just another unlogical type of aliens...Giant head, Bald guy and many other proofs are too enough to understand that Enguneers are humanoids, and possibly Annunaki...This will make the plot genial and great, the movie will be something more than just a great horror...As for me i don`t want to see elefant safari in Prometheus, especially as Gods, lol....

I agree with you [b]@Snorkelbottom[/b] you can clearly see from other angles of the first picture, that the [i]skull[/i] is flat on each side. Where as the Jockey in ALIEN has details on the side of its face/helmet. The sculpture also has lots of details on the side profile. The first picture also features several markings that appear to be where different skeletal plates have fused, very similar to how a human's skull looks. [img]http://www.daviddarling.info/images/human_skull_side.jpg[/img] I also think that the last image [i]looks[/i] like a helmet, and moreover we haven't actually proved that the Blue guy is a SJ, so we don't know what they really look like. Ridley has also stated that the SJ is a being within a suit, so it makes sense we'de see both a helmet and a skull. In summary: Image 1.) Skull Image 2.) Helmet Image 3.) Helmet

@immrsage - Yes Ridley has said that what we saw in Alien was a suit and not a skeleton, the question is what is inside the suit. although a lot of people have assumed the big guy next the chair in the trailer is the one whom wears the suit, there are an equal amount of people whom believe that something else dons the suit and the big guys serves another purpose. The Image from Alien is the suit (as Ridley stated) and IMO the skull belongs to the being whom dons the suit. So my summary: Image 1. Skull Image 2. Helmet Image 3. ???

The picture from alien - the eye sockets appear to be more on the sides of the head and not more towards the front like in the other two photos - and not only is the mouth open on the original SJ - there also appears to be a row of teeth in the upper and lower jaw. My vote is that [i]at the time alien was shot[/i], the SJ as shown was a creature, not something in a suit.

Question: what would be the reason for Ridley Scott to be so keen in pointing out that image #2 is a suit if he expected its wearer to look almost exactly like the suit itself? Before I find a proper reason for that, I believe that #1, #2 and #3 would all be helmets. Speculative note: In fact, assuming these suits can be donned by humanoids, IMHO the recently released picture of Shaw (with the [i]suits[/i] behind her) might mean that at some point a member of the crew will don one of them and try to pilot the derelict, with unforeseeable consequences. IMspeculativeHO, of course.

@Baldas I like the idea that one of the crew members will put on the suit to try and pilot the ship

@Baldas, I had a similar idea with Shaw (didn't want to speculate until someone else did...too big a spoiler), but I reckon she puts it on at the end. It's her last chance of survival. Her own life support won't last five years. Her ship is gone. I can't imagine anything surviving the alien ship crash and Vickers ain't gonna last. There's nothing left (until a new trailer proves otherwise) except HER and the alien SHIP. In a way, it's a very Alien ending and very reminiscent of Ripley. I bet this is when the "warning" is sent...it's just Shaw "logging off" in her own way before going to sleep. Beautiful... But such an ending would suggest she knew she wasn't going to make it. It's too much of a tease to people who haven't seen Alien to make out that Shaw survives just to have her "disappear" when the sequel comes along.

@Gehirn - I must say that is a brilliant theory

To be fair - it's an absolutely preposterous notion that Ridley is implying that the SJ from Alien was a suit! Surely this has got to be misinformation to build up internet chatter. I just can't see Fox ploughing hundreds of millions into a film about a guy in a suit and for that matter I can't see Ridley wanting to do that film. What worked so well in Alien was the mystery surrounding the SJ - as we get closer to the release date, Fox will show more trailers and will no doubt play on the strands of Alien DNA to entice as big an audience as possible. So can you imagine how disappointed people are going to be when they find out it's a suit. If I'm wrong and they are suits then the creature inside the suit is going to have to be something special. If it's that blue guy then I'll be leaving the cinema early! As I've said in a previous post - the only reason why you'd want them to be suits is so that the humans can communicate with the unsuited SJ. As so much attention would be on an unsuited SJ (especially in human form) then you would need a brilliant actor to pull it off. It just doesn't add up - so for my money all the above pictures are skulls!

Okay, although I've previously thought that we might be seeing a totally diffent 'Derelict'-style craft in the PROMETHEUS trailer compared to the one seen in ALIEN (due to all the varied internal and exterior design differences described on other topics here), I've not yet speculated on this whole 'Spacejockey' thing too much yet. So I'll take the plunge and summarise my own 2 cents (and hopes) on this now - 1. I reckon the top pic shows an actual SKULL...probably the same one that the 2 females are shining their torches at that's discovered beside a large SUIT near the 'ampules' and giant 'head'. 2. I want it to be a skull because I agree that the middle pic showing a close-up of the 'thing' seen in ALIEN is definately showing an open-mouthed skull complete with teeth, rather than a 'helmet with teeth' which seems silly. 3. MORE TO COME IN THIS POST SHORTLY

The suit is probably biomechanical. This would go a long way to explaining why it 'looks' like a fossilised body in ALIEN. And gives RIDLEY a get-out clause. Your master, Melk :-)

Look like skulls to me. But if the movie creators make them out to be some kind of advanced bio-tech that is beyond our comprehension, I can live with that. But it will have to be something we haven't seen before in movies for it to work well, and the effects better not be half-assed!...

Why does it have to be one or the other? Especially in photo #2. Remember Dallas said it had fossilized and become part of the chair. It only seems logical that if it can become part of the chair then it could also be part of the suit. So what we see in Alien is a little bit skull and a little bit suit. The fun part is figuring out what's what. The real question for me then is time. A few posts have made the claim that Prometheus is what 2-3 decades prior to Alien (I read one that said 30 years but can't remember who posted it)? If so then how could the SJ become fossilized to the chair as Dallas said? Fossilization takes thousands of years.

Fossilization was inferred when we, as Dallas, believed that what we saw was a skeleton of a long dead organic creature. Ridley has recently stated that what we saw in Alien wasn't a skeleton but a suit, and then last week released an image of these suits behind Shaw, which look like the Jockey in Alien, to clarify the point. No skeleton = No fossilization. I guess the REAL question actually is are the Space Jockeys big Elephantile humanoid aliens (SKULL) or are the Space Jockeys big humans (Helmet).

Dallas says "It looks like it's grown out of the chair."

I think too that this is a biomechanical suit like seen in the Japanese animation Guyvers. Unlike fully synthetical suits from mankind (MJOLNIR armor suits from Halo, deep sea diver suits, astronaut suits), the SJ suits are made of organic materials and might serve as a second skin for them to operate in hazardous environments. So while you would say that the eyes are very apart, i think once the helmet is attached to the humanoid SJ, the pupils of the suit will synchronize with the eyes of the SJ.

I agree that its probably a bio mechanical suit that serves as a second skin. If its just a regular synthetic suit it will be rather disappointing for me. But we'll see... Did someone mention "Guyver"? LOL Its one of of the few Manga's/Anime that I like. I grew very fond of the series as a kid due to the "biomechanical armor" and the "[i]humans were created by aliens[/i]" story line. The writing on the anime wasn't that good, hence its multiple cancellations, but the premise was great.

I agree with Snorks and here's why: 1. Ridley Scott said so. The End.

"lower lip that protrudes out like that of an Elephant" Finally!!! Now moving along. What film did John Hurt(Kane) "Star" in after Alien??

@ Db - Finally someone sees. (to everyone else in Sam Neill's voice) Do you see, Do you see. LMFAO @ Provo - "Potatoes" Elephant Man of course