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zombie rabid guy...hes seen scrambling away from flames and the person he leaps on is by a vehicle thats on fire..then in a later clip you see someone in what looks like the vehicle hanger using a flame thrower

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Mr.J
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[img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420114_152270654893453_100003315579957_197257_379648871_n.jpg[/img]
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Mr.J
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That would be the mutated crew member but from a behind shot during set photography.
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Well, like most, when you want to stop an infection, i.e: the "Thing"...they used fire. I guess they are doing the same thing, probably unaware of his blood change, if he has any changes to blood...
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perhaps theyve already shot him and that didnt kill him
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Mr.J
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He perhaps has killed some of the crew or infected...i do not think that they will be thinking in human terms at this point, mostly just survive.
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@20thcenturybuick I suppose and I guess that means he is a zombie that they have to disintegrate to stop?
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Maybe the goo or whatever has infected him is devolving him into a primitive subject. Or maybe it affects the crew in different forms...after all there is a large Prometheus crew, bigger than that of the Nostromo...
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maybe the flame thrower is to sterilize him..maybe the infection spreads and bullets dont kill it
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It's also possible that despite his animalistic aggression, he's still lucid, intelligent and, thus, dangerous enough to warrant such drastic measures as fire....hell, we see someone use a gun at one point already...he may be powerful enough they can conceive of an easier, quicker way....who knows?
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I don't mean that he's imminue to gunfire, just that whatever happens occurs so quickly that they feel they have no other choice but to go big....it may be as simple as this one crew member gets caught with the mutant alone in the loading dock and the only means of protection available right then is the flamethrower...who knows...
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well at some point you see an infected crew member and they are in pain and their skin is discolored and it looks like somthing is moving under their skin...so perhaps shooting the host body doesnt kill it and they have to burn it
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No worries @Biomechanic...no disruption....It may just be seen as standard procedure....fire is an obvious advantage and defensive tool....so that could be it...there may be practical uses as well...you see someone holding what looks like one here and there's the flame that shoots out behind him, that could be someone else testing theirs..... [img]http://www.aliensvspredatorspectrum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_08.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.aliensvspredatorspectrum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_09.jpg[/img]
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@20thcenturybuick where do you see this "zombie rabid" guy scrambling away from the flames? Please stop littering this forum with you mindless drivel.
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@Biomechanic. It's a good point you make and one that got me thinking. Why would a bunch of scientists and explorers be carrying flamethrowers around for anyway?
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They have a security team with them. When you are heading into a place you have never been, it is always good to have some guys that know how to react...being former military thats what I do.
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Hey @GreatBoosUp...watch it with insulting fellow forum members....especially when [b]YOU[/b] don't exactly have all of the facts or know what you're talking about..... @20thcenturybuick is referring to this shot...... [img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzyh62jklS1qchn68o8_1280.png[/img] ...which is, I garauntee you, in one of the three countdown teaser trailers....and it shows a less than human individual scrambling up the side of a vehicle in a very animalistic manner to flee flames from a flamethrower.... Let's be civil and respectful guys....
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At this point, the guy above has ceased from being human and killing others. He is now a threat to the ship and to the crew. Though I can imagine someone of the science crew wanting to keep him to watch the effects. Being a threat, the security team as no other alternative, kill one and keep the crew safe but we know with some help from the trailer and the formula of the story, only one, possibly two will survive... The question is what is going to happen and how and there are many variables. With Lindolf doing the script, who worked for secretive director JJ Abrams, so yeah, we are in a for a ride, which is going to be epic in scope and Scott's masterpiece.
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He probably ate the lamp shade and a few crew members...but Ben is still good...the freezaroni's just messed him up.
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@Biomechanic, Well, in fairness they do seem to be equipped with handguns at some point so I understand where you're coming from. Perhaps the lack of a gun is more suggestive of being taken by surprise than it is of what Mr. Zombie is made of? The incident still occurs in the hanger, where we've seen flame throwers before. It's the closest weapon a person would have assuming that not all archaeologists carry a gun.
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mindless drivel? thanks scumbag what kind of an asshole talks like that....you're good at degrading people...your the dumbass that is referring to the wrong screencap...
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[quote]It may just be seen as standard procedure....fire is an obvious advantage and defensive tool....so that could be it...there may be practical uses as well...[/quote] Agreed, think Fifth Element's crude de-icing technique. The real clue behind the scene with the flamethrower "test" is the snow falling right in front of them. Surely the ability to melt chunks of ice is a rather important one if you expect to drive back in such a cold environment.
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Yeah Greatboosup personal attack was uncalled for but 20CB I would suggest just notifying a moderator rather than egging him on.
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I'm aware @Biomechanic and have my eye on things.....let's relax guys.........@20thcenturybuick, I already posted a response to @GreatBoosUp......no reason you can't settle down either...civil...respectful.....got it guys?
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In the shot [i]without[/i] "mutant guy," they seem to be very casual about the use of flamethrowers. Everyone is just walking around, going about their business, not reacting to any significant, immediate threat. Maybe they're trying to eliminate something on the ground........perhaps the equivalent of extraterrestrial insect pests or their larvae. That's what it looks like to me, anyway. Maybe they're what Scott had in mind when he said that small, seemingly insignificant things end up being terribly important.
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That's kind of what I was thinking as a possibility as well @Gehirn....it seems most likely to me now that whoever is using the flamethrower was probably in the hanger when they were attacked and had no other means to protect themselves......
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It makes sense for the team of scientist's to have the security team and well, to ensure organisms are brought back and no second thoughts occur. Sending a multi million perhaps billion dollar vessel to the middle of no where is pretty risky. Mr Weyland wants to make sure his things are well protected. I would imagine they have hand guns and other weapons on board, perhaps not telling the rest of the crew what they have..because Shaw and others are under the impression this will be first contact and be a great mission for mankind. Yet, Mr. Weyland is prepared and by prepared has a security team to handle hostile organisms...
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I think this shot that craigamore posted may be just before the bit in the trailer where the guy is jumping off the vehicle. In fact I think it's the very same guy, because in the leaked trailer that came out just before the official one there were still flames on that jumping guy, I think that were edited out in the official one, because in the official trailer there is still smoke coming off him. Man. Who's got a handy time masheen? :-P
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Maybe you have a point about zombish and the only way to destroy them is the creatation of a xeno........ Man steals SJ science project, space project goes out of control and infects man, infected man zombie mutant attact SJ, SJ unleash xeno to clean up the mess, xeno kills infected man, throw in Darwins theory and chest bursting infected man mutates into even more deadlier xeno Terrifing mutated form of chest bursting xeno hunts down and kills both SJ and man except, Weyland Yutani Androids, which cannot be infected as they are robots......... Weyland's androids send out a beacon signal that is picked up by the Nostromo
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That's what I think the logical progression is @Cypher......It makes sense.
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Surely does. I think you also mentioned when they were walking around calmly firing off flamethrowers, ten bucks says that's just before they set out to wherever they are headed for the first time since landing on the planet. Before the poop hits the fan.
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That's follows....
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This is slightly off topic, but when I went to see The Village, halfway through I turned to the girl I was seeing it with and said, "I bet there are people driving BMW's using mobile phones outside of this village......" Sure enough, there were......... I do that a lot with movies. Maybe I should be a Hollywood "writer" :-P
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Maybe......I did the same thing with both 'The Illusionist' and 'The Prestige'...figured both out at least 40 minutes before the climax...pissed me off it did...especially with 'The Prestige'.....I'm sittin' in my living room, it just clicked in my head and I was like...damn it...had to turn it off for a bit I was so mad...........I want a good movie to fool me. I hate when I figure it out early.
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I was going to ask if this thread had anything to do with fire being a weakness of the creatures in this movie, just like in the Alien franchise. Looks like everybody beat me to it. I do wonder now if Space Jockeys are as flammable as the familiar xenomorphs.... ....oh snap now I'm thinking about how "fire" is symbolic due to this movie's name and the mythos behind Prometheus himself.....but I'm too tired to dabble into it, and I think you guys don't need to hear it when it comes to flamethrowers. Seriously; a flamethrower is what it is, plain and simple, no philosophical hullabaloo necessary. o_O
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Nice thought CrazyDave. Snap indeed! That actually hadn't made any connection in my mind. Sometimes you can't see the forest from the trees as they say. Nice one indeed :-)
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First I wanna comment an the question of why the crew are using flamethrowers instead of guns. When in space the last thing you would want is a gun, for the obvious reason that you could shoot a hole in the hull and thus vent atmosphere. Flamethrowers would therefore make more sense. Also flamethrowers seem to be a staple of the Alien franchise and could be another tentative link to that franchise. Yes, there is a scene were we see characters holding small firearms, but these are probably used as a last resort for the reason I have stated. Now onto this image... [img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzyh62jklS1qchn68o8_1280.png[/img] I have heard a lot of people referring to this image as being of the mohawk mutant escaping the flamethrower. I don't think it is, I think the person in this image is Noomi Rapace aka Elizabeth Shaw. The figure is definitively feminine and this individual seems to have dark ragged hair obscuring their face.

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Mmmmmmmm.... I can definitely see what you're saying Snork, but it could also be argued that it is the chestplate on the suit that is making what looks like the outline of a breast, and I don't think Shaw's hair is.... I think it looks a little curled at the top maybe? And I don't think in any image we've seen of Shaw so far that her hair looks that short. I'm definitely seeing the mohawk. But I do concede that the form looks somewhat feminine. Photoshop job of Mohawk Man's hair and Shaw's bod to throw us all off? No that's taking it too far even for me :-P
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Maybe he's not a 'infected human' at all.... Maybe he's a company robot that is all messed up looking from having a flamethrower used on him?
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