weyland created the alien

It's possible. With the discussions of the "old man" in the trailer possibly being Mr Weyland himself, all kinds of plot doors are opening.

that will destroy all the magic of the serie ... What was great in Alien was the "unknown" ...a crew that face something they have no idea of what its . Adding too much "Company" in the equation will make a great geeks movie and will ruin everything else (imo )

It could be that Guy Pearce is very busy, perhaps playing Weyland in the speech, then a robot Weyland that we have seen in the spacesuit and maybe an old Weyland who is looking for the fountain of youth.....

@Frantz I consider myself the biggest fan of ALIEN, and I would like ALIEN to remain a cult classic of some sort, the closest thing to a living nightmare. The word "cult" means hidden, as in the origin of those monstrosities. AVP ruins it for me because the creature has become a tool, nothing but a bug, instead of an omnipotent demonic entity. I could understand Ridley's frustrations, but ten again, Scott works for Fox, a gigantic corporation, not unlike Weyland. The new movie might very well go in 2 directions: 1) The creature/s is a Weyland's perverse genetic experiment gone wrong. And the various expeditions are sent to retrieve & to conceal the disaster under the guise of "good will" explorations. Weyland has reached the limits of explorations as far as this kind of technology is concerned. But in space, there is no legality to deal with when it comes to psychotic experiment (gene splicing, man-animal experiments, transmutation). Like the 1979 tag line says: In space, no one can hear Noomi Rapace screams: "Pleease!" 2) The game-changing "technology" that Weyland hints at during his TED2023 speech is truly alien in origin. Weyland's experiments with it forces the hands of the Alien Gods to release the hounds of Hell. The Xenos, in their various forms, are the God's pit bulls. I prefer the second story. But either way, the Xenos are still a tool.

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The franchise overall had long since branched out. If you read the "Earthhive Trilogy" back in the mid-90's, you get to see the "elephant aliens" as they were called fighting battles with the Aliens. If they go the route of making Weyland be the guy who "created" the aliens, then they do several things: 1. Nullify much of the mythology built up in the background books (like Earthhive). 2. It lessens the power of the Alien as a truly horrifying creature--what would be more "scary," a creature that got out of control from its creator, or a creature that was built the way it was *by natural selection...* In short, if humans created the Alien, then psychologically its a much weaker kind of horror. Why should God fear its creation? They'll turn the alien from a monster to be feared into just another prop. Which they've already done in every movie after "Alien 3." I personally think that this might be a precursor to (finally) doing a movie based on the EarthHive mythos... Think about it: The alien finally makes it to earth in that series and successfully wipes out all but a handful of the human race. Weyland-Yutani was the blame. What better way to showcase his arrogance than making him responsible for bringing the ultimate predator to earth, and nearly extinguishing the human race?

Except that the Space Jockey and derelict SJ ship all share the same biomechanical design and structure as the Alien. That leads me to believe that the Space Jockeys created the Alien. Weyland just believes they can somehow harness the Alien Xenomorph as a military weapon, as demonstrated in Alien:Resurrection.

I don't think Weyland Corp made the alien. I still believe the alien was made by the Space Jockey, but whatever we know about how it was made & what they were used for is sure to be rewritten in some way when Prometheus arrives. It's possible that whatever creature is prominent in the movie will be something that the Weyland Corp will target for acquisition, by any means necessary, even if it means disregarding the lives of your co-workers, crewmates, and private security personnel.....the "justification" of crew expendability being that the targets are of godly proportions, perhaps? Also, this "old man" that is brought up regarding the trailer did compel me to take a look-see at the trailer last night. And I came to the weirdest conclusion......the "old man" is the humanoid figure shown when the chair is rising? I mean, it sounds like Peter Weyland could develop some sort of god complex, to the point where he wants to become a god? And, possibly, assuming the old man is Mr. Weyland, he becomes a Space Jockey at, like, the end? Of course it sounds like he loses everything he once was in the process, but who knows.

yup engr101 .. Im btw scared by all this Company talking ...that will lead to a Inception kind of movie and so miles away from an Alien movie . I hope they show so much of the company because is the only thing that cant ruin the plots surprises . In Alien the plot give just a great plot twist at 4/5 of the movie ...just that In Aliens is much more present... but Aliens shine in other parts .Burke is just a lame person ..company or not . From there the "Company" become a geek's food but enhance nothing of the movies. The less Company plots and subplots we will have the better the movie will be . imo

awesome idea .i applaud this one...but i can debunk it however its not possible weyland yutani is always trying to bring back a specimen for weapons research...if they created it then why

Perhaps the technology Weyland speaks of is simply some kind of warp engine or some other new drive technology which enables man to simply get to the outreaches of space. The Weyland trailer is only set a few years in the future and really until we find some way of travelling billions of km's in small amounts of time we simply would never find Alien tech. Interesting idea re Weyland morphing into a SJ though... I, as mentioned in previous threads, still think there will be an accident with one of the crew, Noomi Repace's character. She, I believe is the key to the first hybrid Xeno that in turn effects the SJ's. We will have to wait and see.

@GreatBoosUp I go back to the mythology already in existence: If you read those books, the "Jockey" and the "Aliens" are ancient and separate. There are entire planets "infested" with aliens, and there is one point where many "jockeys" are destroying aliens in swaths. There was some supposition that the "jockeys" were a race that was overrun by the aliens, despite all of their tech. Recall that the derelict from the first movie (I really, really, hope they begin with the assertion that resurrection never happened... it destroyed the series.) and that the Jockey was in a crashed ship that was sending out a *warning to stay away.* (But the Nostromo crew was told it was a distress beacon.) Again... any scenario where the alien becomes a "tool" or "a creation" will really castrate its power as an object of horror... which after all was the original point of the first film! ;-)

@avgvstvs: Did Ridley Scott endorse and subscribe to this mythology you reference? I think Ridley has decided that Alien was his picture and that this prequel will be based on his mythology. Tools and creations are still horrifying when they wreak havoc on living things. Take the common pistol - a tool which kills living things - horrifying. There is still much power in a biomechanical tool, the Alien, which kills living organisms and uses them to reproduce - even if this biomechanical tool was created by the Space Jockeys, also biomechanical in nature. It will be interesting to see how Ridley mythologizes the Alien and the Space Jockeys in June.

I think what bothers me about the idea that the Space Jockeys creating the Alien is that it clearly got the upper hand. The Space Jockey pilot in the derelict ship on LV-426 has his ribs exploded outward suggesting that the chest burster did this to it. Ridley's going to have a difficult time resolving this, if indeed, the Space Jockeys created the Alien Xenomorph. @avgstvs, you might be right after all regarding a separate race of Aliens and Space Jockeys. But why do they look so much alike? Biomechanical and Giger-esque?

@GreatBoosUp Alien was written by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett. Scott's job for the first film was simply to bring that screenplay to life-->He had nothing to do with the original story of the film. In fact, if you go back to the original screenplay, the original idea was for the Alien to turn humans into eggs. (This scene was shot for the original film and is in *some* director's cuts as an alternate ending.) [Scott's name isn't even in the writing credits for the first movie.] James Cameron and his writers in the 1986 film Aliens, was the one who made the decision to go with the Queen for the actual lifecycle of the alien. Ridley Scott was *not* consulted for this. Alien 3 saw only one writer from Cameron's crew return. Completely new batch for that one. (It is, mood-wise probably my favorite of the original three, but that's mainly because of Fincher.) If you've seen any of the interviews of the writers for the 3rd movie... by this point the franchise was being written by teams of writers. When you get to Resurrection... (and I actually own an original manuscript...) It's this point you get what Hollywood usually does to great franchises--a sequel where they went out of their way to write by committee... the only good thing about that one was Giger's return for the human/alien creature design. The Alien franchise isn't owned by Ridley, though I applaud Fox's decision to give him the reigns. I hope the series will recapture what it lost from Resurrection and those asinine "Predator v. Alien" debacles. The franchise is owned by Fox and its writers will determine what goes into the next iteration. I hope they'll listen to some of the more jaded fans such as myself... but judging from the fact that I'm here... I'm really excited... I just hope he doesn't go Lucas on us... If you'll excuse me... I have some thick-rimmed glasses I need to go dust.

@avgvstvs....it's an unwritten understanding that no filmmaker is beholden to any expanded universe created around a film franchise. It's pointless to suggest that any sequel would nullify these stories, because they never are canon. The worlds of film and literature rarely, if ever, coincides authentically as canon, especially if the film came first. "any scenario where the alien becomes a "tool" or "a creation" will really castrate its power as an object of horror... which after all was the original point of the first film!" The assumption has always been just that...all those comics and novels just served to confuse things........and why would the alien have a similar physical structural appearance to that of the SpaceJockey if it were an unrelated race? It makes absolutely no sense. "Alien was written by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett. Scott's job for the first film was simply to bring that screenplay to life-->He had nothing to do with the original story of the film. In fact, if you go back to the original screenplay, the original idea was for the Alien to turn humans into eggs. (This scene was shot for the original film and is in *some* director's cuts as an alternate ending.) [Scott's name isn't even in the writing credits for the first movie." @avgvstvs...none of the writers of that expnaded universe stuff wrote the original 'Alien' either...so why does that have anything to do with is? And no, the franchise isn't owned by Ridley, but when the studio puts it in Ridley's hands, they effectively endorse the direction he wants to take it in. The director is the artistic driving force behind most any movie, especially a director like Scott. It's his movie....trust me....he did what the Hell he wanted.... @GreatBoosUp....Love what you said here....."Did Ridley Scott endorse and subscribe to this mythology you reference? I think Ridley has decided that Alien was his picture and that this prequel will be based on his mythology. Tools and creations are still horrifying when they wreak havoc on living things....There is still much power in a biomechanical tool, the Alien, which kills living organisms and uses them to reproduce - even if this biomechanical tool was created by the Space Jockeys, also biomechanical in nature. It will be interesting to see how Ridley mythologizes the Alien and the Space Jockeys in June." You're right on the money...all of that other stuff...fun as it may be to read....has no bearing on anything Ridley wants to do. "Ridley's going to have a difficult time resolving this, if indeed, the Space Jockeys created the Alien Xenomorph." I don't think he will @GreatBoosUp......is it really that hard to believe a creation becomes too much to handle for its creator....that's a classic paradigm in storytelling.

@GreatBoosUp I want to answer your question, "But why do they look so much alike? Biomechanical and Giger-esque?" There's two answers for this, the first is "I don't know!" ;-) The second, is that Giger did ALL of the design work for the first film. All of his designs have similar characteristics. The Alien series made me a huge fan of his work, and I think everything 'alien' in Alien is due to the fact it all had the same designer... I don't think there was a real plan or a real mythology in place. Giger's interviews all seem to indicate that he had very vague ideas on what he was doing. His biggest inspiration for the creature was the idea of parasitic wasps! We'll see... I just want them to "get it right" whatever is in store...

@Craig[amore]? (faulty memory) I'm aware of my own biases! ;-) But I'm also a student of horror... and the biggest things that create "fear" are always the unknown. Discovering that the xenomorph was created tends to bring it out of the supernatural blackness that enshrouded it. To be an effective vehicle for horror--the less we know about the Alien, the better! One of the [i]best[/i] shocks in movie history was when Dallas found the Alien, fully-grown when both he himself (and the rest of the crew) were expecting a cat-size horror. As for why the space-jockeys and the xenomorphs have some similarities, my recent reply to @GreatBoosUp sums it up: They were both created by Giger, and Giger didn't have a mythos in mind when he did those creature designs. (Anyone can do with visuals what they want of course!) I will be [i][b]extremely[/b][/i] disappointed if Ridley takes the utterly predictable path of an artificially made organism... at that point the series will stop being 'horror.' The most effective horror stories are the Lovecraftian ones where man is so utterly insignificant and powerless... and the thought of a creature evolved to kill us (as opposed to created) serves that purpose much more nicely. (Because it wasn't created by a process under conscious control.)