A Creation Story
March 14, 2012
Not really sure how I feel about this "suit approach" to the plot. The big shock would then be, that we are all just suits...or? It´s an interesting theory, but a motivation to create Man, based on the need to experience a new type of consciousness doesn´t really seem strong or edgy enough.
Sorry to be the devil's advocate, I really don´t have any theories myself, so who am I to criticise.
March 14, 2012
BRAVO!
This would make a great SciFi short story!
I don't think that Android David is a good story vehicle to cause destruction of mankind. As much later Ash (from original Alien) was Glitchy, David really can't be a character that could challenge Gods himself.
Unless David is cyborg, made from Peter Weylands brains and synthetic human body? This way the "Android" wouldnt be glitchy. Peter Weyland did have a bit similar posture (stiff) as Michael Fassbender has said he aimed with David...
March 14, 2012
I like the concept itself ;-)
Charlize Theron described her character Vickers as, "a suit, that slowly sheds her skin."
Good effort Biomechanic :-D
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"Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."
March 14, 2012
Bio,
Did you read my post about the Fake script-off? Are you are trying to get a head start?
lol... I love it! But I'm curious about why you are hiding that fact that the "being" would be from another universe that does not abide by the same physics of our universe?
And I have a little problem with the "being" being jealous.. I'll post later why I can't buy that..
over and out
March 14, 2012
opppss totally thought something wrong.. you never said jealous.. lol.. I'm at work and trying to do 3 things at once.. my humble appologies..
March 14, 2012
You should get published Biomechanic! Be sure to include a glossary at the back, just like 'A Clockwork Orange' did for that idiom, so we can all follow along.
March 14, 2012
What would peak my interest is if the SJ "God" was not a singular race, but part of a hierarchy whose failure gets exposed to an adversary. We're their dirty lil secret, until we venture pass our solar system.
March 14, 2012
@Biomechanic. Wow, I want what your smoking !
I think you are half way there. The Space Jockey as we know it from Alien is actually a suit. The tall blue guy activating the chair is the real Space Jockey. Hence the giant Humanoid head, and also the SJ space helmet seen in the lab scene.
March 14, 2012
Quotoes...
But I'm curious about why you are hiding that fact that the "being" would be from another universe that does not abide by the same physics of our universe?"
"I don't see where I am hiding that."
End Quotoes..
Well, did you hyperlink flatland after I wrote a response to you? I did not notice that is was hyperlinked on the first reading... A reference to "flatland" as a reality is very abstract.. whereas, "universe" is much more concrete. "Reality" is a very loose interpretation of "whatever it is". Which would indicate to me.. you just did not want to say "universe" for whatever reason.. lol... or you wanted to leave the interpretation up to the reader.. which is again... odd. Regardless, you are talking about a being, that does not belong to this universe.. But if you hyperlinked.. well then, I guess you were not hiding it.. lol
On a further note, when the Weyland guy said, "M-therory".. this was a freak'n tip off. But I've teeter tottered on how it was to be incorperated.. But I think you have a blaze'n idea of how it could be used.. But no one ever said the BB came from a single tier.
Quotoes..
"And I have a little problem with the "being" being jealous.. I'll post later why I can't buy that.."
I will be looking forward to your post..... "...there has to be something in the story that creates tension. It's what writers do.".... "I know giving God human characteristics seems absurd "
End Quotoes..
You pointed it out directly as to why I don't buy God being jealous.. lol. It seems that it is just fudged that "God" gets jealous, just to create tension. If I'm the reader or viewer.. I'm going to be in the crews shoes.. and if I'm going to be the crew, I'm going to have to know that I've done something wrong to make God jealous. Or I'm going to have to know why God is not going to under stand my android, before he meets him. As far as giving God jealousy characterisitcs.. I think it's fine, as long as the viewer can identify..
Did any of that make sense.. or do I just sound like an asshole? lol..
I think you have one of the best Science Feligion (yes I just made that up, here on Prometheus movie.com, check it out on the inerweb, it's not there) ideas that I have ever heard..
Ok , I don't know anymore.. my brain just stopped...
March 14, 2012
Quotoes...
But I'm curious about why you are hiding that fact that the "being" would be from another universe that does not abide by the same physics of our universe?"
"I don't see where I am hiding that."
End Quotoes..
Well, did you hyperlink flatland after I wrote a response to you? I did not notice that is was hyperlinked on the first reading... A reference to "flatland" as a reality is very abstract.. whereas, "universe" is much more concrete. "Reality" is a very loose interpretation of "whatever it is". Which would indicate to me.. you just did not want to say "universe" for whatever reason.. lol... or you wanted to leave the interpretation up to the reader.. which is again... odd. Regardless, you are talking about a being, that does not belong to this universe.. But if you hyperlinked.. well then, I guess you were not hiding it.. lol
On a further note, when the Weyland guy said, "M-therory".. this was a freak'n tip off. But I've teeter tottered on how it was to be incorperated.. But I think you have a blaze'n idea of how it could be used.. But no one ever said the BB came from a single tier.
Quotoes..
"And I have a little problem with the "being" being jealous.. I'll post later why I can't buy that.."
I will be looking forward to your post..... "...there has to be something in the story that creates tension. It's what writers do.".... "I know giving God human characteristics seems absurd "
End Quotoes..
You pointed it out directly as to why I don't buy God being jealous.. lol. It seems that it is just fudged that "God" gets jealous, just to create tension. If I'm the reader or viewer.. I'm going to be in the crews shoes.. and if I'm going to be the crew, I'm going to have to know that I've done something wrong to make God jealous. Or I'm going to have to know why God is not going to under stand my android, before he meets him. As far as giving God jealousy characterisitcs.. I think it's fine, as long as the viewer can identify..
Did any of that make sense.. or do I just sound like an asshole? lol..
I think you have one of the best Science Feligion (yes I just made that up, here on Prometheus movie.com, check it out on the inerweb, it's not there) ideas that I have ever heard..
Ok , I don't know anymore.. my brain just stopped...
March 14, 2012
P.S.
Ok, one more thing.. it's very peculiar how one thing brings up another. For some reason your post brought me to think of something I have not thought of since I was a child...
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmSbdvzbOzY]Thought[/url]
March 15, 2012
Biomechanic - The best thing I have read on this site so far, simple as. Just one question - where the hell do you get your acid from?
March 15, 2012
@danrald
"Well, did you hyperlink flatland after I wrote a response to you? I did not notice that is was hyperlinked on the first reading... A reference to "flatland" as a reality is very abstract.. whereas, "universe" is much more concrete. "Reality" is a very loose interpretation of "whatever it is". Which would indicate to me.. you just did not want to say "universe" for whatever reason.. lol... or you wanted to leave the interpretation up to the reader.. which is again... odd. Regardless, you are talking about a being, that does not belong to this universe.. But if you hyperlinked.. well then, I guess you were not hiding it.. lol"
I am pretty sure the hyperlink to flatland was there from the beginning however I have been known to edit a post to clarify or fix a few mistakes. I am pretty sure all editing was done within a minute of the original post and before any responses though. I would describe his world as a different consciousness plane I guess even calling it is a single dimension is wrong because he would not know what a dimension is, he has no way to measure it or compare it to a known value. A universe of measurement and stimuli is what he creates for the first time.
"On a further note, when the Weyland guy said, "M-therory".. this was a freak'n tip off. But I've teeter tottered on how it was to be incorperated.. But I think you have a blaze'n idea of how it could be used.. But no one ever said the BB came from a single tier."
This was just an off the wall idea more theology than scientific fact. However I was thinking maybe his consciousness somehow resides in a[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity]The singularity[/url] and he was able to manipulate it into something new.
"You pointed it out directly as to why I don't buy God being jealous.. lol. It seems that it is just fudged that "God" gets jealous, just to create tension. If I'm the reader or viewer.. I'm going to be in the crews shoes.. and if I'm going to be the crew, I'm going to have to know that I've done something wrong to make God jealous. Or I'm going to have to know why God is not going to under stand my android, before he meets him. As far as giving God jealousy characterisitcs.. I think it's fine, as long as the viewer can identify.."
Well just like in life sometimes you don't know why someone is angry with you until it's too late. I think it would be interesting for the crew to try to discover why they were met with such hostility. Most believe they are going in on a peaceful mission of discovery although there are probably sinister motives in the minds of some. Maybe once humanity gets too close to doing real damage the engineer realizes he can't ignore his mistake any longer. He must put more effort into extermination. To kill you must learn about your victim. What will kill it? Maybe he is experimenting on them to find out what will eradicate them fully. I think you know where I am going with this.
"Did any of that make sense.. or do I just sound like an asshole? lol.."
It's fine : ) I enjoy this kind of intelligent debate and was the reason I joined this site.
"I think you have one of the best Science Feligion (yes I just made that up, here on Prometheus movie.com, check it out on the inerweb, it's not there) ideas that I have ever heard..
Ok , I don't know anymore.. my brain just stopped..."
I also remember that from childhood and love it! That explains the concept pretty well actually especially when the line is able to form the complex shapes by willpower. Thank you so much for posting that here.
Oh and i am not on any hard drugs everyone. I did however take an Alka-Seltzer Plus before writing this...