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The HEAD - why in bondage

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Jim100a100

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 9:21 PM
Part of what makes the head interesting is the presence of ropes or cables wrapping around the front, and seemingly disappearing in the sides. Are these just there to keep the thing from falling apart over the millennia? Or is there a deeper meaning? Are they there to show that humanoids are in some state of bondage? It's an interesting design choice any way you look at it..
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Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 9:26 PM
I think it ties in with the myth of Prometheus himself, chained to a rock with his liver eaten every day by an eagle.....ad infinitum........ Which is WHY I think that the Space Jockey race is in servitude to another race of beings that we STILL have not either seen or even been given the SLIGHTEST clue to............. :-D
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mogy79

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 9:34 PM
I have a feeling the cables may be a remnant of when the statue was moved into place. I mean we have no idea how or when it was moved there or even who did it. Perhaps it was ancient humans in an effort to worship the alien gods.... something about it feels very Egyptian.

20thcenturybuick

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 9:35 PM
lol thats not bondage...maybe its customary space jockey head dess..the blue man in the space jockey chamber also has somthing on the bridge of his nose..who knows what that does

mogy79

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 9:40 PM
The bondage idea is not that outlandish.... if only in a subversive way. Remember the art of Gieger.... full of crazy sado-masc stuff.

Jim100a100

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 9:48 PM
- the 'cables" extend all the way down to the chin, not just bridge of the nose - studying a hi-res pic of the blue dude shows no such thing I haven't thought of the SJ subversive to a "higher" alien though. Like that. maybe it's nothing. I just thought it added something interesting to the image

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 10:29 PM
Who wants to bet me 10 bucks about that "other being" idea? :-P
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Nephilim_LV426

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 10:38 PM
There is much symbolism in the head. Some of which is Egyptian. Some of which is related to the concept of Prometheus. Prometheus made man from clay. Remember a book called 'Frankenstein: or The New Prometheus' ? [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/1773#18780]Read this post[/url] then ask yourself 'why put a crack in the exact same place'.... Ridley Scott is genius at combining several deep themes ... I'm still working on the meaning of the nose bars though...

Jim100a100

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 10:40 PM
heh- I'll bite Cypher. I'll paypal you 10 bucks if there is no other being higher than the Jockeys running the show. might as well make this interesting. ::edit MORE interesting ;)

Vanilla-Hollywood

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 10:47 PM
[i]... to enunciate a bad feeling that I have with it all th time:[/i] I do not hope the whole structure inside the derelict ship(s?) turns out to be a maze just like in AvP- I mean without any alien staff on it. Then it'd be another ghost galleon story with lots of hidden traps; not at least those ampules which obviously have a certain appeal to prometheus crew... another idea of mine is that scaffold is ought to keep away that guy from... the ampules; dry spells, sorry lean spells in space could seduce him otherwise...

Jim100a100

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 10:45 PM
@Nephilim_LV426: excellent catch - the crack down the forehead has been bothering me as well. That's a great juxtaposition between FStein and the head.

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 11:16 PM
Ahhhh I think thats the other way round @Jim100a100, if there isn't a higher being I'll pay YOU 10 bucks, cause I reckon there will be something the Space Jockeys answer to....... But I'm almost 100 per cent certain I'll be right ;-) ALMOST......GAME ON! :-D
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Jim100a100

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 11:28 PM
ah, you're correct, I say no SJ higher beings...you say yes. My thinking is that it would only make things more complicated. Only...85 more days left!

20thcenturybuick

MemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 11:35 PM
how do you know those wires dont serve a function like when they are in the space jockey suits

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-14-2012 11:58 PM
@Vanilla-Hollywood, when in AvP (either of them) was there a derelict like in Alien??? Are you talking about the Predator ship?
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mogy79

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 12:08 AM
... speaking of suits... I hope that in the film the space suits come off as a bit less saturation and action figure like... does anyone else think they just look too perfect in some of the stills. The original film just had this grittiness that made so much more believable... even the crew looked kind of greasy and blue collar...

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 12:31 AM
But remember mogy79, this is a scientific expedition. I'd expect the equipment to be better quality.
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Vanilla-Hollywood

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 12:54 AM
@ cypher: of course not. I meant the show jumping course in that predator built [b]pyramid-temple[/b] below icy ground. But does that make any difference? As ever they'll be chasing thru pitch-black corridors just to find them confronted defencelessly with superior combatants.

CantSpaceJockTheRock

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 1:25 AM
Perhaps we've already been given this answer? The engineer(space jockey) and the elder engineer(see space jockey). Maybe they also do some "mutating" as they age like we've seen with the Mohawk man perhaps? It could be some sort of metamorphosis, they get some more biomechanical gear for their bodies (the lines on the face) and maybe they grow in size or just get chubby? (the statues chin and cheeks)

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 2:49 AM
I try to avoid the AvP shite as much as possible Vanilla-Hollywood ;-)
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centrosphere

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 4:32 AM
Good take mogy79 Of what we have seen so far, the "used universe" concept from Alien is lost in Prometheus _ everything is new, shining and glossy (at the human side of course). This is inevitable, since in this story Prometheus is a ship and crew specifically tailored for whatever mission they were comissioned to, while the Nostromo guys were "space truckers" doing other things when they were drafted to become alien food.

ZetaReticuli

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 4:53 AM
I think the markings are symbolic rather like tribal scars and similar in theme to markings on the giant stone heads found in Oceanea/Pacific islands.

astubbindeck

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 7:42 AM
@mogy79 I've been wondering about the suits as well. Could it have something to do with the filming in 3D? Some weird technical reason the suits have to look like that?

Kane77

MemberOvomorphMar-15-2012 12:34 PM
I think the ´bondage´ are rather mason marks, it should only show that its a very ancient sculpture, thousands of years old..therefore the huge crack in front etc..

the walls are alive

MemberOvomorphMar-16-2012 4:42 AM
Well as far as the suit difference in prometheus vs alien the promethus crew was on a slick state of the are exploration vessel so the suits would reflect that, the nostromo was older and used looking like it had already made lots of deep space trips so the suits would be more that speed

You have my sympathy

MemberOvomorphMar-16-2012 1:35 PM
NO IT'S NOT BONDAGE, THERE'S A LINK IN THIS FILM WITH THE ERIC VON DANIKEN BOOKS, "WAS GOD AND ASTRONAUT", WERE A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE, ALLEGED, EVIDENCE CAME FROM SOUTH AMERICA . THERE ARE SOUTH AMERICAN, PARTICULARLY AMAZONIAN, THAT DECORATE THEMSELVES WITH DISC INSERTS, TATTOOS AND GUT-TIES, PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF THE NOSE. THE HEAD FEATURES TATTOOS AND THE TIES, THE EAR-LOBES LOOK ENLARGED ALSO. THE HEAD ALSO HAS A RESEMBLANCE TO THOSE ON EASTER ISLAND, ACCEPTING THOSE ARE IDEALISED THERE IS DEFINITELY A RESEMBLANCE. YES, THE CRACK AT THE SIDE OF THE HEAD'S TEMPLE IS CERTAINLY A TRIBUTE TO FRANKENSTIEN
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