who steals from who

Nah, I think one of the Sj's steals from the Sj's and GIVES to us. Then HE gets punished.

Human steal SJ's secrets..

@ukalien, That would be an interesting twist if the SJs steal something from humans. It doesn't even have to be something tangible; rather, it could be our god complex, as posited by Weyland in his TED speech. Let's assume our discovery of humanity's origin (and the subsequent mission into the stars as shown in this film) was a veil humans were never meant to pull back, and so we get slapped down hard (via the "uncivilized" behavior hinted at by Ridley). But due to our hubris and wrath and under the influence of a heavy dose of fear and terror, we punish the SJs (how we'd do that exactly, I haven't thought that through).

its really stealing ? Only someone evil will be upset if you "acquire" technology from them ... except of course if its dangerous technology .

[quote]its really stealing ? Only someone evil will be upset if you "acquire" technology from them ... except of course if its dangerous technology .[/quote] i have seen you take that same stance in the past Frantz and am confused so I will just ask you straight up...what makes you think it isn't stealing?...In my mind their is a big difference between aquiring after asking to be permitted to from it's owner and aquiring wihtout asking to be permitted to from it's owner...in fact it seems to me that what you are saying is that technology is not something we can ever "own" which I think is potentially brilliant in that it opens up an entirely new debate.

The ones who steal can be the space jockeys...but I don't think they will steal something from humans. In the trailers, previews, etc, the space jockeys seem very powerful and superior, their technology is much more advanced than ours. Just look at their ships (like the derelict) and compare them to ours. They don't need to steal something from us, they are already some steps ahead from us. But if the space jockeys are the the ones who steal, they must be stealing something from another species...

Well Sparty we can assume that every good community share knowledge with the others ...Of course there can be a grey areas in the middle ...nuclear power can be both Good or Evil ...but if someone dont share the knowledge of Fire ...or medical treatments ...or the wheel ...or long distance comunications ... its because they want to keep the other communities in a state of submission ...isnt it ?

xenomorph54 ''the space jockeys seem very powerful and superior, their technology is much more advanced than ours. Just look at their ships (like the derelict) and compare them to ours. They don't need to steal something from us, they are already some steps ahead from us'' i agree 100% the SJ's are light years ahead of what humans can do, but then i don't see how a simple human space ship (the prometheus) can crash into a ship far more advanced. maybe the reason for it crashing is some bad shit going down on board?

My thinking is that some technology is developed long before any culture other than the one that did even discovers/finds out about/knows of it's existence...and I think it's negetive to assume that any random culture would just think of itself first and of keeping any other peoples in a state of submission...I also think it is far more simple than that...it's about owenrship & Respect..."this is mine"..."I delveloped it"..."if you want a piece of it fine"..."show me the due Respect first by asking me and before taking it wihtout doing so". Also, How would you view a culture that just stole technology that was years in development for you? Wouldnlt you feel "Disssed" as they say, and in the case of Aliens in the Alien universe, what we know of some of them now suggests they don't even have feelings to consider they are far more methodical...as in..."Steal From me and You Die"...Period !!!

I think I see why now Frantz, you are assuming this community in Space is a "good" one...and I think Ridley is gonna show it's that's not the case at all...in fact I think you just hit on soemthing, we just hit on something..... very very essential to the plot of Prometheus!!!

ukalien " maybe the reason for it crashing is some bad shit going down on board?" that's interesting...makes sense. Maybe, what puts the sace jockey ship on fire isn't the crash between it and the human ship...We will need to wait 84 days to know...

Yes sparty yours are good point ...expecially regarding the "cold" civilization of the SJs ( just look at their "architecture" .. surely isnt art noveau ) ... but in every relactionship "real " respect must be gained. The simple fact that they want to be considered Gods ( and they cant be of course ...since they surely dont know who created them ) would surely sound to an human crew like a act of supreme arrogance . so we can see it in 2 ways . 1) the rich that dont want to share with the poor to keep him submitted 2) the poor that go in the house of the rich and steal like a thief for jealousy both options work well togheter too

It is quite entirely possible that the SJ simply over-estimated humans and their capabilities, granting them knowledge of advanced technologies/abilities never before seen in human history (much like the god granting human civilization with the capability to create fire). While attempting to unlock and understand the nature of this technology our inferior beings were unable to control powers granted by the SJ. Our egos unable to accept the fact we aren’t advanced or mature enough restrain the powers of this gift given SJ tech/ability causes havoc, death among the crew, potential mutation. Btw thanks to all those involved with this website its become a new addiction.

Who steals from whom?

If this whole ancient aliens thing inspiration for god like entities that helped us along in our evolution... They did indeed grant us technology and helped us and then simply left and moved on... This story is about us trying to find our creators and if somone steals somthing it's more likley to be humans from SJ's... The only think SJ's would find remotley interesting is the cybernetic organism David, as they did not create him but may want to do somthing to him? The whole thing about Space Jockeys are that they do not have creators the first created himself and then created others this is how it is written in ancient history so I am going with that for now. I don't think SJ's are evil either but there will be somthing somone does that makes things go sour no doubt or a 3rd player in this somthing else that we have not seen yet that changes everything we really have no idea about what the purpose of creating mankind was either

Ok here is the answer...My contention is that HUMANS on board Prometheus Steal SOMETHING THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND PROPERLY...A Terra-Forming Tech namley in the physiocal form of VIALS from that cavern we saw in the first trailer...and "The Engineer's" or "Space Jockey" race if you will, decides to IMMEDIATELY PUNISH ALL OF MANKIND FOR IT!

READING ON FROM YOUR POST by creating a xenomorph a being that is obsessed with stealing another lifeforms dna and incorporating it into it's own by a gestation and finally death and it's sole purpose in life to steal as much DNA from other lifeforms until there are none left and then it waits... that's kind of like fighting fire with fire eh? So was the Space Jockey that was compromised by the face hugger trying to stop the process by becoming an alternative? Was he trying to create a new hybrid by exposing himself? Is it deliberate that he allows the process upon him?

[quote]Frantz › Posted Mar-15-2012 11:18 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes sparty yours are good point ...expecially regarding the "cold" civilization of the SJs ( just look at their "architecture" .. surely isnt art noveau ) ... but in every relactionship "real " respect must be gained. The simple fact that they want to be considered Gods ( and they cant be of course ...since they surely dont know who created them ) would surely sound to an human crew like a act of supreme arrogance . so we can see it in 2 ways . 1) the rich that dont want to share with the poor to keep him submitted 2) the poor that go in the house of the rich and steal like a thief for jealousy both options work well togheter too[/quote] Ya know what Frantz, I appreciate that, and at the same time I have to be honest, I do not think CLASS exists even in an Alien Universe or Outer Space if you will...and in this case I think it's real simple, we find this lair or cave with all these vials and we just grab some of them for closer examination without realizing we are being watched by this race of so called "Engineers" or "Space Jockeys" and without even realizing we have offended or violated another race... this all goes down just the same...because we take something that does not belong to us even though we do it with good intentions, the road to HELL was Paved with Good Intentions as someone much wiser than myself once said.

So Right Ronster!!! We Just Don't Know!!! Period!! And Won't Know Till We See The Movie!!! But It's Fun To Talk About It And What we Think Is Going On!!! Isn't It!!!!