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Mark Cawley
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 3:47 AMI wonder if the entire area that the SJ ship comes to rest in gets leveled. Thats why 30 years later the landscape looks different when the Nostromo appears. The SJ ship is very resiliant and survives......perhaps.
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Sigismundo
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:02 AMIt's pretty much accepted Prometheus doesn't take place on LV 426, and won't end where ALIEN begins.

ShinobiX9X
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:07 AMi wouldn't be surprised it does, but at the same time the crashed derelict doesn't have to be the end of the movie, so the end of the movie is not a prequel to alien.

Mullered
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:09 AM"It's pretty much accepted Prometheus doesn't take place on LV 426, and won't end where ALIEN begins
"
Since when?

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteMar-28-2012 4:10 AM@ Sigismundo - by whom, I would say that the fans are more divided right down the middle on this issue

Sigismundo
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:12 AMThere are about 9,000 interviews with Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof stating Prometheus will not lead up to Alien because they want to branch away from Alien, thus creating the ability for Prometheus sequels.
[i]DL: No, I don’t think it does. I think that there might actually be people out there who watch Prometheus and say, “This is an Alien prequel” but it’s a prequel in sort of a different sense than I’m used to. Isn’t it more interesting to think of a movie that takes place in the Alien universe, there are some familiar things that you will see along the way but if there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. That to me had to be the goal. God willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won’t be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there’s a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426. Z in this movie is entirely different although people will watch this movie and say, “I feel like I have a different contextual framework now for the original Alien, I’m going to watch it again. I feel like I know a little bit more than I knew before.”[/i]

Sigismundo
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:13 AM@Snorkelbottom - That is because there are a lot of people that [i]want[/i] LV-426, the crashed derelict, a queen, etc. and aren't willing to accept they're not getting that come June.

Sigismundo
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:15 AMThere is another interview, I can't find it right now, but it's discussed that Lindelof was brought on to make the script have as little to do with Alien as possible.
Who knows though, right? That newest Michael Fassbender interview on the front page just reiterates how secretive and misdirecting everyone is being, so I could be way wrong.
I doubt it though. The further from Alien and LV-426 = the more expansive the universe for Prometheus sequels.

ShinobiX9X
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:19 AM" if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won’t be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there’s a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426. Z in this movie is entirely different"
Reading this i could imagine the derelict crashing on lv-426 somewhere between A and Z , let's guess M just to think about it. So a sequel to that movie wouldn't be Alien.
but something in the middle of the movie happened leading to Alien, nothing more.
just thinking stuff out loud like anyone else

Mark Cawley
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:20 AMOR......we might all watch the movie and say "RIDLEY! What have you done damn it?" lol
......To me at least you cant be in the Alien universe and at the same time move away from ALIEN because we know what happens in 30 years time dont we?

Mullered
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:21 AMwell Im pretty sure we know the star system is zeta reticuli, the same system from Alien, and that the trailer seems to show the planet as being a moon that is orbiting a ringed planet, which is how lv426 is depicted in the original movies. I guess it could be a different planet or moon in the same system though

Sigismundo
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:24 AM[quote][i]Reading this i could imagine the derelict crashing on lv-426 somewhere between A and Z , let's guess M just to think about it. So a sequel to that movie wouldn't be Alien.
but something in the middle of the movie happened leading to Alien, nothing more.[/i]
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If the film does have LV-426, I hope it does in the way you suggested: the middle of the film.
Hypothetically speaking if something similar to the above mentioned happens, considering how open Ridley Scott has been about straying from Alien, then I think the sequel could even take place after the events of Alien, not just the thirty or so year gap we have between Prometheus and Alien.
I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of brand new ideas presented in Prometheus, ideas that can be expanded and explored in sequels. Specifically ideas that are not related to Xenomorphs or eggs - because Ridley Scott has mentioned numerous times how the Alien sequels have ruined the 'scare' that those creatures used to create.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteMar-28-2012 4:35 AM@ sigismundo - Being on this site everyday for the past 4 months, as well as lurking around in AVPGalaxy and AVPSpectrum I can say that the fans ARE split down the middle on whether this is LV-426 and thus THE Derelict.
Also, people seem to be misusing quotes a lot lately to support their theories of what we will and won't see in Prometheus...
For example, regards this movies ties to Alien, Ridley has said, in order over the past 12 months - Its a prequel, its not a prequel, It has Alien DNA, It is not a prequel, It is a prequel but its also original.
The way I see it, and a lot of people agree for the most part is this...
This is LV-426, that is the Derelict, already loaded with eggs, that is THE Space Jockey, and this is how the company knew it was there. But that is only 10-15 minutes of the film, the rest is what will be ventured into should a sequel be made.
This is a Space Jockey film, and the explanation of the Space Jockey in Alien is this films only real tie to Alien, beyond that it will go in its own direction.

Ender
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:52 AM@ Snork, had you not decided you thought that it WAS LV-426 and the Derelect WAS the same ship because of evidence in the two trailers pointing to the desgin of the ship being amended to match the design from the first movie?
You had me convinced

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteMar-28-2012 4:56 AMYes, is that what comes across in my previous post.
I am also beginning to think our Space Jockey may be more of a bad guy than we thought!
I think he killed his own crew!

Ender
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 5:11 AMYou think he killed his own crew, How so?
What about the 3 SJ's spotted in the star map room image heading for David?

Mark Cawley
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 5:14 AMI believe your the first to say that on here.........murder hadnt even crossed my mind.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteMar-28-2012 5:16 AM1. A pile of dead Space Jockey's in the temple.
2. The dead Space Jockey whose head/helmet the crew take back to scan.
3. The holes in the 4 sarcophagus pods in the star map room.
I'm beginning to think they were the crew of the Derelict and in charge of caretaking the temples, but he turned against them. Maybe they were benevolent but he is malevolent.

Frantz
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 5:24 AMif i just got awake from a coma yesterday ...and i saw the 3 trailers ... i would have concluded that is a total alien prequel ....so is just the plot , and how it ends that can drive us in another direction ..as its is an alien prequel ( imo ! )

zzodr
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 6:13 AMI just got off the phone to Ridley, and he wouldn't give away if it is LV426 or not, 'cos he enjoys seeing the fans go mental over it, but he said even if it was, it does not necessarily mean he won't direct:
"Prometheus 2: Jockeys in Space"
Coming Summer 2017.

flexer
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 7:09 AMI think it's not so important whether the planet we see in trailers is LV-426 or not. And I don't mind not seeing the original xeno in Prometheus. But it's important that movie explains at some point how the derelict with eggs ends up on LV-426 (so far we saw just urns and not eggs). As soon as this question is answered and Alien fans are happy they can move the plot to a different direction.

Southern Cross
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 8:15 AMHi all - new to this forum, but I'm a massive fan of the movies.
Just a thought (and I'm no expert by the way.....)
But.... if the events of Alien take place 30 years after the events of Prometheus, surely 30 years isn't long enough to see the Space Jockey become "fossilised", as Dallas observed when he found it with Lambert and Kane?
Maybe in space it's different though.. but "it looks as though it's been dead a long time".... more than 30 years, no?
Good to be here all :)

Famished
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 8:29 AMI'd prefer those answers left to the imagination. Seriously, why the need to know everything that makes Alien the film that it is? i hope they don't touch it, and merely let these fans continue to speculate.
Incidentally, I believe the script for Alien actually says the SJ is fossilised. I guess that is really going to throw the continuity gang for a loop.

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteMar-28-2012 10:48 AM@ Southern Cross...
Welcome to the forums.
The SJ in Alien was not fossilized, Dallas only inferred that it looked fossilized. He said this because it looked like the skeletal remains of a long dead creature, and people often call a skeleton a fossil (and vice versa). Ridley has since stated, and shown in the new trailers, that what we saw in Alien was actually a biomechanical spacesuit, therefore not a skeleton, thus not fossilized.

Famished
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 4:29 PMFair enough, and I agree. I must have read this script description wrong. It was a while ago, but I'm sure it mentioned fossilized in more than just the dialogues.
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