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Is Vickers a Synthetic?

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Ghaim Overman

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 9:42 AM
I don't know if this has been brought up before but Charlise sure looks particularly detached and emotionless in a few the shots I've seen. Certainly humans can be that way as well. But hhmmm...
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Otto

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 9:46 AM
I believe so. Ridley has said "there could be two" synthetics in the movie...

Ghaim Overman

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 9:49 AM
I'm guessing she is. Very cool! I want one!

Otto

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 9:50 AM
no kidding, Ghaim...no kidding...yum.

Lord Ennio

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 9:51 AM
I'm beginning to believe she actually is a synthetic from the way she is shown in the IMAX trailer(she's shown standing alone in a corridor, her posture is much like that of a robot. Then there's the scene where she slams David against a wall in the same corridor, apparently trying to stop him from helping the good guys or escaping, maybe??

Zedwardson

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 9:51 AM
I think the "Vickers" model would be a high sale item...just for looks.

Gromster

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 9:58 AM
If she is a synthetic, then surely David would know this simply by observation, especially when they are in hypersleep on the way to the planet, when he is left in charge of monitoring the crew. But I'm sure she is human. The way she shows emotion and stress when running and getting to the escape pod (before the ship crashes in the space jockeys craft) would point toward this. An android would surely just unemotionally follow any programming instruction in its system to calmly and quickly get the hell out of there.

Zedwardson

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:03 AM
I think Vickers as a red herring when it comes to being a Synth. If we have a 2nd synth, my bet is someone who has a name starting with E....

Gem]n[

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:04 AM
Yeah I said that may be the case a while back ... she looks shifty ... as well as sexy ... :) ... BUT ... if that is the case is SHE in CryoSleep with the others? ... David isn't ... he's roaming around the ship, for 2yrs, pi$$ing about ... He deffo has an urge for Vickers though ... someone else, on here, said about the blue tinted scene, with both of them in it, that he's dreaming ... I reckon that too ... Vickers is just standing there in the corridor, then they have a little 'tiff' ... has he got synthetic testosterone? ...

Pvt. Hudson

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:13 AM
The way she says "If you're going down there..you're going to die" doesn't remind me of the way any normal human being speaks that's for sure. Not to mention judging from the clip (if Shaw and Holloway turning around is indeed in response to her speaking) they don't particularly seem to care what she's saying as if her opinion isn't very valued (a non human opinion).

EGR101

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:19 AM
Vickers standing motionless in the corridor could be seen as her trying to blend with the lifeless objects around her to evade detection from alien life form that has burst out from the infected crew (or the crew themselves mutating into something else)? The swooping camera move looks to mimic the gliding movement of a snake-like organism. Or she IS the second robot.

Ghaim Overman

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:22 AM
@jasonlee- yum indeed! @Lord Ennio- I agree. In that shot as the camera moves around the curving corridor you see David there. I think that shot might be the "big reveal" of her synth nature. Or at very least a final confirming indication. @ Gromster and Zedwardson - Mayhap. Actually I hope she is a red herring. I want to be suprised . Yeah I thoght about the 'E' thing too. The lack it could be a red herring itself. A more subtle misdirection, if you will. @Gem]n[- "... shifty ... as well as sexy ..."! No 'shift' Sherlock!!! That should be her official character description!

Ghaim Overman

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:29 AM
@zedwardson- 'I think the "Vickers" model would be a high sale item ...' I've got to get a bigger piggy-bank! ;-)

Knorbuffel

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:46 AM
Definitely. Vicker's an android. Suspected it right from the beginning. Would be the first pic in the franchise with 2 of them, wouldn't it?

Cinefan

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:53 AM
I also just recently realized she has blonde hair like David, but because it's pulled back it's not as noticeable as his. Blonde hair must be a trait of androids. Vickers IS an android!

Knorbuffel

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 10:55 AM
Well, the androids in Alien and Aliens were not blonds (brunettes, I believe).

jrock

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:06 AM
I'm leaning towards yes she is - but then again, that might be a little too predictable. She's probably just a cold company bitch.

Cyber_Clone

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:09 AM
Theron described the character as "a suit who slowly sheds [her] skin through the film." http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2011/07/22/20th-century-fox-comic-con-panel-and-footage-description/

NoXWord

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:10 AM
I remember [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/48]this[/url] interview, along with another (which I cannot find right now) in which Theron speaks about the humanity and emotionality of her character as the story evolves. Everything we've seen so far seems to be screaming "ANDROID", so I really hope she is not one, and anyway, it is not going to be this much anticipated "surprise" about Vickers. I don't think Ridley Scott & co. had something so cheap in mind. Maybe she turns out to be Mr Weyland, or a man, or Hello Kitty, whatever. But if she's the "secret" android then I would expect in the final scene all the survivors being murdered by a SJ butler... Unless she is a secret "David 9", but still...
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

Knorbuffel

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:12 AM
Who believes interviews? I don't.

Heustess

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:21 AM
How about Janek being an android?

Corey

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:34 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if she is a synthetic. According to the Weyland Corporate timeline, "Only 7% of humans can recognize the sixth generation of David as a cybernetic individual. - February 26, 2062" And on the main page in module B, it states: "OUR FAMILY IS GROWING: Weyland engineers have been working around the clock to bring you the newest, most advanced addition to the Weyland family. Stay tuned for a special announcement." Perhaps Weyland industries has created a female android. And, her mission objective is probably representing the Company, and bringing back what ever it is that they want her to bring back. Obviously Weyland Industries have ulterior motives behind this mission. They must have knowledge of something that they want to secure and bring back to earth. Also, her emotional detachment can be seen in most human corporate executives, so the humans on board are probably not aware that she is one. They know that David is an android, and it would seem that from the trailers, his mission is scientific. Also, he is a more well know model, and according to the timeline, they are all named David. If we think about Alien, which takes place 50 years later, no one on board had a clue that Ash was an android. And his primary objective was to secure the life form and bring it back, with no regards to the crew. At this point, 50 years later from Prometheus, Weyland Industries was well aware of the biological life form that was discovered by the Prometheus mission. I wouldn't be surprised if Vickers is the one that brings back that information. Perhaps she is not able to escape with it, but she definitely lets Weyland Industries know about what happened and what they found. I think that David will prove to be more benevolent and curious. He has plenty of time to think about things in that 2 year trip while the humans are sleeping. Also, remember at the beginning of Alien, Ash was also in the Cryo beds. At this point in the future, they had developed an automated system to wake everyone up.

piter

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:43 AM
I think it's possible that Vickers is a contrast for David... David's arc may be that he is an android that turns out to have very human qualities - while Vickers maybe an example of how a human being can have less humanity than an android... a cold calulating suit showing little or no emotion... that's what I see so far.

Corey

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 11:56 AM
@piter That's a good idea too!

Kane77

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 12:32 PM
As the cool blonde, tough company lady Vickers would be THE suspect for an android, but Ridley likes to play games with his hints.. yum yum Shaw model for me... with optional dish washing programm please.

Gimm-e

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 12:57 PM
I don't think she's an android because it would be too obvious. Remember what Scott said at the Comic Con Q&A: "I just felt we've been there , seen it and done it ". It just wouldn't be surprising anymore if one of the crew members turns out to be a robot...
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Melkor

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 1:06 PM
"he's roaming around the ship, for 2yrs, pi$$ing about" Haha, made me laugh!

Famished

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 1:14 PM
Think Theron said she was inspired by Tilda Swinton's performance in Michael Clayton--specifically a scene where she is losing it inside and trying to keep herself together. Seems like a very "human" inspiration. And the ritual exercise (pretty human activity). But I wouldn't be surprised by anything. Imagine it could also be the case that she becomes an infected host or something as well--becoming more robotic in nature-- and yet, that seems oddest of all. I'm most intrigued by the magazine article stating that her agenda may be the most intresting, but I don't recall the specific quote, nor do I recall if that was just continued speculation. Something regarding her relationship to Weyland.

Ruth

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 2:05 PM
I'd rather see Vickers as a Hello Kitty than an android, because it's just too damn predictable. E.. Elizabeth. I like that idea, but it can't be that way, it just can't. We saw her all bloody, desperate, very emotional and so on. So I doubt it. I liked someones idea about Janek being android. It would explain his "mouth gasp" in one of the teasers/trailers lol. Or maybe it's even Holloway? Uhm. Maybe not.

BigDave

MemberDeaconMar-29-2012 2:15 PM
Its a tough one to call. She does stay back on Prometheus from her interviews so she does not venture out onto the Planet Often. The Scene where it apears she is standing in a Coridor does look like she could be a Andriod. Then she does seem a bit clueless as to whats going on in some parts, so she must not fully know... and that inc Weyland what they are in store for. Also she is one of those with the Flammers Torching Something, which leads to the Scene where the infected/Hybrid Human Attacks them from off the Top of the ATV. Maybe she is not Andriod as per Say but Cyborg? Meaning she is part Human?

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Famished

MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 2:35 PM
Cyborg, yeah. Good call. And a good guess given that this scenario would be something new. Extrapolating this thought, even though she is her own person, she may also be the eyes and ears of Peter Weyland, linked on one level or another.
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