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Doesnt make sense

Mark Cawley

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If the blue men are indeed the creators of life throught the universe such as earth or whatever. If they are Gods or whatever. Or if the species that created the creators and left them in charge. WHY in Gods name would they want to go back to earth to destroy everything they created? Why create the Alien which we all know is a killing machine without remorse or sentient thinking? If blue man isnt one of the original species of creators how the hell does he know how to fly the ship and use its technology? Im pretty sure that the guy with the ginger mohawk and tatoos is our blue man.....or if not hes infected with something cos its him lunging at another crew member then throws the crew member in the vehicle bay on Prometheus.....you can tell from the hair. That ship is on THAT planet for a reason other than creating life then destroying it again when they found out that man didnt turn out the way that was intended. Why would they interfere with natural evolution in the first place? Most of the logical human race thinks we are here from natural evolution.....what would be the purpose of otherwise to a race of more advanced beings? To what end? What do they think they would achieve? If they are so advanced they would also know that you cant attain perfection, not through lack of trying. But because, as Dr Ian Malcom said "Life finds a way" So any race human or otherwise, no matter how sophisticated cannot alter nature or the order of the universe and if our alien species whoever they are disregard this knowledge then they cant be that advanced can they? So why create a race then want to kill it......its like killing your children. They knew when they left the cave paintings etc that we were becoming advanced from when they (if they did) seeded the earth.....which i highly doubt. They knew then that we could become more civilised and capable of space travel.....else why leave the paintings? You dont leave a map to people that cant read a map do you? Then and heres the big one.......If they hoped that we became so technoligical to the point that we could follow their directions......why do they turn out to be so hostile. Wouldnt they welcome us with open arms?
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I answer is simple... we need to watch the movie ... hope all our questions are answered
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Maybe the maps are the alarm. When we evolve to a point where we are able to interpret them and travel to the planet they depict, then we have reached a point where we could become a threat.
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there's one thing though .... "GOD" or "CREATOR" would hate that the humans he created would race beyond him... if we find the very ingredient of our existence there is no need for a GOD... there is no use of him/her... it makes us powerful... And if something makes us feel like GOD (KNOWING) ... who would ever want to give it up??
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A threat to whom? Intergalactic species? We dont know they exsist.....and if we reach a point that we can travel to them........why would we be a threat to them? Theres enough room in space for everyone dont ya think?
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there's enuf room for humans too on this earth but aren't we still fighting??
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Mark Cawley
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But they possible havnt been in touch since the cave paintings so how would they know who it was turning up to their map co ordinates? Remember its God that causes death and destruction........religion should i say. And if they visited us why leave a map.....why not just stay? Why become a God at all......not very advanced of them to think they might be treated as Gods and when the children overtake the tutor just have them killed lol. Its rediculous........that would make them.....erm, well.....Human lol.
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yes lol... make them humans.. & maybe we are a part of their creation... speaking of leaving earth ... maybe they wanted to spread themselves to other planets ... who knows ... GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!!! like ppl say LOL
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In some forms of the myth Zeus tries to punish the humans alongside Prometheus after Prometheus steals the fire and gives it to the humans. Zeus sends a massive thunderbolt down that causes a flood in the Caucasus mountain region, and he unleashes waves of monsters and imprisoned Titans to rule over the humans. This can be compared to when the God from the bible causes the flood and destroys Sodom and Gammorah, which have layers of vitrified glass and sediment in the ancient settlement sites some archaeologists shockingly believe were caused by nuclear explosions... around 9 000 years ago. I'm thinking the myth can be related to many different storylines and themes in the movie, and will actually play itself out in this way in the end. One of the human crew, or androids, actually encounters an entity who wants to rebel against the blue gods. It attempts to help the human crew and gives the company what they seek, but the company wants more and wants to use this power in destructive ways, setting off a chain of events that angers their hosts. They think all humans are like this and want to steal the power that gives them their godlike status after one of their engineers shares their secrets. So they attempt to take it out on all of us, and give their engineer an even worse punishment.
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So Sir Ridley......rather than tie Prometheus to Alien is going for Prometheus with Clash of the Titans.........the mans lost it lol.
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Personally, I don't think the guy with the mohawk transforms into the space jockey. And I'm assuming there will be more than one space jockey in the picture, although I can't be sure. As for them being hostile, I had wondered the same thing a while back. It doesn't make sense to come visit earth so many years ago in peace with the natives and then years later to want to return and destroy it. The only way I can make sense of it, well, the only reason I could think of that they would want to do that is if the explorers somehow pissed them off. Maybe they didn't want them in that cave, and it upset them, or maybe they took something from the cave. Perhaps someone on the ship connected to Weyland was scheming to steal the space jockey's technology. The space jockey's discovers this, feels their trust is violated, and becomes hostile towards them. Even though Shaw and some of the others had nothing to do with it, the space jockeys do not know that and attack everybody. I'm sure it will all make sense after we see the film.
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I think we're all overlooking something very simple. If they left "an invitation" many millenia ago for us to "figure out" as we evolved so we could find them... so to have they evolved... (or de-evolved?). Just take a look at "humanity" over the last few decades.
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Simple premise... The "Blue Meanies" are not really aware of us, and the Space Jockey's are nothing more than their indentured servants... SLAVES. We were never intended to have reached this point. Something was STOLEN from the "Blue Meanies" by the Jockey's resulting in US!!. The message was left by the JOCKEY's for us.... not by the actual "Blue Meanie" GOD's. Now imagine if you will, that we then show up unexpectdly one day, and we not only have harnessed the power to travel the stars but we are now even God-like creators of life ourselves...THE DAVID ANDROID!! Would that not completely freak out and enrage the "Blue Meanie" God's setting off an orgy of butchering the Jockey's for what they have done??...and of course by association, WE are now deemed to be "Blue Meanie" public enemy number 1??
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There could be some cultural differences noted by Shaw that exacerbate things on both ends, but really I think it's as simple as everything mentioned above and one of the crew pissing them off and misrepresenting humans. We've been told the name Prometheus will relate to more than just the name of the ship so it really could be that there's a character who metaphorically represents Prometheus stealing the fire/high tehnology and angering the gods; getting all the humans punished in the process because the gods see it as a challenge to their possession of the fire. A fire they inherited from this older slave species and now guard fiercely...
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Reminds me of the classic B5 bit. Catherine Sakai: While I was out there, I saw something. What was it? G'Kar: [pointing to a nearby flower] What is this? [upon closer inspection, an insect is visible] Catherine: An ant. G'Kar: "Ant"! Catherine: So much gets shipped up from Earth on commercial transports, it's hard to keep them out. [As Catherine is talking, G'Kar carefully picks up the ant.] G'Kar: I have just picked it up on the tip of my glove. If I put it down again [replacing the ant on the flower] and it asks another ant, "What was that?" …how would it explain? There are things in the universe billions of years older than either of our races. They are vast, timeless. And if they are aware of us at all, it is as little more than ants…and we have as much chance of communicating with them as an ant has with us. We know. We've tried. And we've learned we can either stay out from underfoot, or be stepped on. Catherine: That's it? That's all you know? G'Kar: Yes. They are a mystery. And I am both terrified and reassured to know that there are still wonders in the universe…that we have not yet explained everything. Whatever they are, Ms. Sakai, they walk near Sigma 957. They must walk there alone.
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^^^^^ Oh man... Your nerd-cred just went through the roof with me!!! That is a favourite moment of mine!! I miss Andy K. so much. RIP
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This reminds me of the final scene in the philip k dick short 'Autofac'. Basically, humans (through a whole in a factory roof) observe little robots building stuff that will indirectly lead to humanity's demise. They are discovered by the little robots who simply seal the whole up and get back to work. "You can't stop (them)" etc etc. So... the SJs are just going about their bio-business, (too complex for us to imagine). They catch the Prometheus crew trying to interfere then, being a bit more irritable than the autofac mini bots, decide to dish out a bio-weaponed bitch-slap. Simple!
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Since the story could be based on Prometheus myth we could expect SJ's to send us back to the caves and not completely destroy humanity. That's an equivalent of chaining of Prometheus to the rock and eating his liver over and over again.
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I don't think they wanted to be our Gods forever in the past, they would have stayed. maybe they passed earth, tought us stuff that accelerated our evolution. continued their journey. now that humans arrive there, maybe a few meanys think of a new world full of slaves they can rule? thinking some stuff outloud
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I neither think that the mohawk transforms into the space jockey . Perhaps they are in kinda hypersleep till they get activated by accident by the crew of P. Perhaps they sleep in those strange sarcophagus cylinders on the star map room.
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I think the REAL SJ's... the 12 or 14 ft. tall ones are alive and well on the Planet when Prometheus arrives. Well they sure find heaps of their bodies and 1 that appears to be a very FRESH kill and they even examine its head in the med bay on a table. And what about this shot right from the media link here. What the heck are those behind Shaw... Suits? Statutes? live Sentries??? [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_production3.jpg[/img]

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