Space Jockey head/helmet?

It was actually shown at the teaser in 2011. There are lots of threads about it and for what we have seen at the very last trailer it is a sort of helmet.

Yep going by the last scene where you see something on the Chair thats not there when the SJ is seated in it, makes me think its 100% a mask.

Helmet?? Why would they be examining a "helmet" in a medical bay?? That has NEVER been my take at all. The head to me appears to be actual flesh and you can see the actual mouth structure, eye sockets, etc. The Helmet (as shown in the SJ still right on this very homepage NEWs section) is something entirely different altogether.

good point.... perhaps sj skull?

I feel like the picture on the homepage is showing the same thing as in the trailer where I specified. I don't think it looks like a helmet either, but I could be wrong.

I just want to know why theyve got a helmet on a medical table. Or maybe it isnt a medical table and is actually something like a science examining table instead? Would make more sense.

End of the day we just dont know and wont know untill the Movie comes out. It could be a mask with the head inside as in one still on the internet you see a Space Jockey with no head on the ground. Looking at the scene of the Jockey in the seat it apears to me that its a mask and a Bio Mechanical one. So its not a case of they found a Helmit like a man made bikers one, the Helmet could be most likely organic. The Science team would be intrigued even at the finding of a Helmet. If we landed on Mars and found a pair of Alien Space Boots are we just gonna ignore them and say nope leave it we want what wore those boots. Again from what i have seen potentially this head/mask has been picked up at the scene next to a fallen SJ Body. Whats the alternative? that indeed the SJ are large Elepant looking beings. Then what of the Blue Guy in various parts of the Trailers?

No sure if this link is going to work, but how is that a "helmet"? (btw.. You cant see Shaw in the frame, but if you could, you would see that the scale of the head is HUGE in relation to us. [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwnsasSzBB1qmz9r9o1_400.png[/img]

Nice pic CanadaPhil. If it is really just a helmet, it sure looks life like. I guess that's what Bio Mechanical kind of implies though...

Plus... here is a pic from a topic GEM started a couple days ago titled DEAD SPACE JOCKEY I think. This is where the first find this next to a dead SJ body.... [img]http://oi44.tinypic.com/6rprao.jpg[/img]

[img]http://3danimationcgi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/prometheus-space-jockey.jpg[/img] Again looks simular to me and again maybe colour is different because if its Organic it could have mummified or rotted, like how a Log of Wood would look slightly more lifeless than it would when it was on a living Tree.

Yep possibly fossilised as well.

It looks like a severed head. It could be right after they sent those orbs through the tunnels (the ones with the red lasers) that this was in fact the life form they picked up on the scanners. Point is we've received a lot of information concerning Prometheus through trailers, interview, magazines and it is GREAT (yet at the same time somewhat frustrating) how little we actually know about the story and plot direction it will take us. Yes we have many many MANY theories about this film but in the end they are just theories. Very interesting thought provoking theories from many intelligent members of this forum. You guys keep my anticipation of this movie at an all time high! Thanks! Hopefully it will speed up the release date for this movie lol

@jimp... Yes, but isnt it obvious that that is VERY different from what many describe as the "helmeted" pilot. To me, that looks to what is actually UNDERNEATH the "bio-helmet" which forms around the "pilot" when seated.

Wow! It never really occurred to me how big these things are going to be.

CanadaPhil Could you post a picture of what you see as being the helmet?

I dont really have anything good. The seated jockey pic right here in the NEWS section (which is actually a still from the trailer) is the best/cleanest one I know of.

Yes... they are HUGE in relation to us.

Geeez... now this topic got my mind racing on this and another light bulb went off in my head. Is the dark veiny appearing areas on the SJ head/skull? with the darker ridge on top not sort of remniscient of the pale veiny "humanoid" withe lumpy sort of head shown at the beginning of the "waterfall dawn of man" clip????? Oh crap... he I go again...lolz.

I think I'm starting to lean more towards the idea that the thing on the examining table is the skull with no flesh on it due to decay over time. The picture on the homepage is what the skull looks like with flesh. What do you think?

Here is the guy who walks over to the seat after activating the Pilot Chair to rise up. [img]http://www.mmthomas.me/Media/Default/ImageGalleries/Prometheus/man-in-jockey-room.jpg[/img] If this is the guy who is the other image i link prior then he looks human and not like that head on the table, which again points to it being a Helmet. [img]http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/space_jockey_background_crop.jpg[/img] Also this one here these suits look like the one thats got no head in that one image. These are standing up here with heads on. 1) Are these Statues and why? 2) Are they actual lifeforms that are in some kind of hybernation? 3) Or are they just Space Suits used by the Blue Men. Just as the Red Suit hanging up below is most likely a Prometheus crew Space Suit [img]http://media.theiapolis.com/b000000/d8/hFA/iKJX/t3/wJG/noomi-rapace-as-elizabeth-shaw-in-prometheus.jpg[/img]

Here..WE...GO.....I believe it's a helmet as Ridley has, several times, stated that what we see in that chair in 'Alien' is a suit: "...Alien. It’s fairly pure. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. [b]Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit.[/b] And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going? Now, let's compare the helmet on the table to SpaceJockey in his chair in 'Prometheus' as well as 'Alien'... [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwnsasSzBB1qmz9r9o1_400.png[/img] [img]http://www.ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/031712-prometheus-wondercon.jpg[/img] [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081014170719/aliens/images/archive/2/26/20081014171305!SpaceJockey.jpg[/img] Here's the fella in the suit... [img]http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/aliennaire/Prometheus/blue_guy1.jpg[/img] I hate to brake it to you fellas...it's a helmet and probably one that's been there for hundreds if not thousands of years, which would explain the missing eye glass and its present conditon...also, there the possibility of it being biomechanical which would contribute to its organic appearance.

Those look more like they could be masks. The trunk like things look a lot bigger, like they are where the trunk of the space jockey actually sits inside. They also connect to the chest, maybe as part of the breathing system for the suit.

I guess we will only know when we see the movie. But dont forget we need to remember that potentially the Space Jockeys do not use Materials like we do, their Materials are most likely Bio Mechanical thus organic thats why the Walls look Organic and the do on the Derelict Ships. What in real life uses Bio Mechanical Materials for either a Suit or a Home? Snails, crustaceans. And if you got a Snail and it died over time when the flesh inside has gone the Shell will remain but it will not look as colourful or vibrant as it was when the Organism was alive. The same goes for Crab Shells etc.

They still need to explain the Snuffleupugus trunk! hahaha

@craigamore.. Also, my take on your last pic link (green orb "Blue Meanie") is that THAT is NOT a "real" Space Jockey at all, but something entirely different. This is the situation (I believe) that sets off Shaw's concern about something bad about to happen... but its not a real jockey... Too small... more human head... and has EARS!!

I'm still not convinced on anything, but there's a lot of great ideas here. Can't wait to find out for sure in June.

If you actually watch the scene of the Jockey in the Chair over and over in slow motion. You will see that the Chair attaches istelf to the Jockey, we would assume that after the snout will then also extend out more aswell. As i said i think the Suits are themselves a living organism in a way, hence Bio Mechanical. Look how Starks suit attaches to him in Iron man, i think this is how the Space Jockeys suits attach to them only their suits are not Metal but a Organic Material that becomes fused with the wearer. This image was posted in different thread. [img]http://dougbot.com/forum/prometheusDiscovery.jpg[/img] Notice at B there is something on the chair, that disapears in this scene. [img]http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k172/BristolRuss/SpaceJockey-Prometheus.jpg[/img] Notice that object B is not there, where could it have gone? Well ontop of the bald Blue Guys head maybe?

Very interesting....

But as many have already also pointed out, WAY TO SMALL to be a "real" Jockey as we think of them.

If the Engineers utilize Biomechanical tech then the object on the medical desk could be both. By this i mean both a head as part of a body and also a helmet, if this is the case then if separated from the body it would die which could be why it looks like bone....i think you can make out what looks like the joining lines as bone plates meet between the things eyes. Also it could still be a helmet and thats where the big blue guys come in.......it would be cool if these suits roam about un-occupied running off some simple instincts given by there builders. What if the pic of the dead Jockey and head is just that and they just fragged him and are looking at its head and trying to figure out if its a mask or a head?? " there's nothing in it man ? " " what are you talking about it, you saying the 13 foot Alien i just decapitated is an empty suit" " well yeh look theres a big hole inside it?" " ok who was driving it then ?" " We should go, right now! " " I think you're right just pick it up and put it in this black mesh bag" " you pick it up !" " you shot it, im holding the bag, pick it up and lets get the f@*k out of here" sorry got a bit carried away there

Well the size can be explained. Here someone posted this. [img]http://cdn.csicon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/David-and-Alien-698x351.png[/img] Now thats David in the centre, behind and to the left is what looks like our Blue Bald Guy again but he is bigger than David yet in the distance so potentially if he was in the centre with David he would be much larger. Like 10ft tall. The Movie draws some links with the Titans, it shows Sumerian and Egyptian Tablets. Now all of those beleaf systems had not a God but Gods and these Gods looked like Man just double our height. I think thats the connection Ridley is trying to make.

And... sort of OT rambling here... What is going on in that dead body scene.. Looks like a last stand from a determined Temple defender? (appears to have huge doorways that something has knocked down??)

Yes thats a interesting thing, you see it shows what must be a Jockey with his Head Cut Off maybe? (by head as in Head with Helmet on). It would take some kind of beast to decapatate a 10ft Humaniod. Or could the Head not be off just Helmet Fell off, if so how come they never tried to move the SJ body to the ship? Or could it be a complete empty Space Suit and Helmet. The only way we will know is when the movie comes out, or Alex Jones Spills the beans lol.... but what did he say about May 21st last year... Rapture lol.

That's just it CanadaPhil...and a lot of people, even here, don't want to accept it, but that IS what the SpaceJockies are...HUMANOID type beings...and that disbelief is the source of the baseless notion that there are two alien races....there is no evidence for that......and, if you look at our blue friend again, you can see the ribbed structures on his body, particularly his chest that we can see the chair attaching itself to... [img]http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/aliennaire/Prometheus/blue_guy1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/031712-prometheus-wondercon.jpg[/img] and Big Dave is right on the money with this.... [img]http://dougbot.com/forum/prometheusDiscovery.jpg[/img] It's a suit and the SJ race is humanoid...

My take = I like where you are on this @BIGDAVE, the S/J's have bio-machanoid suits, the helmet has skull material with flesh over it as a suit and helmet that molecularly "adheres" to the subject like a living flesh wetsuit. If the host dies, the suit being living organic material dies as well because it is still "adhered" to the host (like the facehugger dies after it disengages with it's host) unless it is "programmed" to come of for later use. And the trunk it a breathing apparatus (organic material as well), that attaches the pilot to the chiair, (i.e. the ship), and that is why we see the helmet-(skull material) on the examination table----prometheus doesn't know what it is--skull? or helmet--which is why it's in the examining room.

I cant shake the idea that the blue guy is David after some sort of metamorphosis. Its the jaw line i think it reminds me of him. Also in one of the trailers there is a shot of Shaw sat on the floor in a corridor of ( i assume ) Prometheus and she is not looking like its a good day, there is a human stood looking down on her and this human has some funky leggings on that look just like the legs of the guy in craigamores pic A so i think that means that at some point an SJ gets on the ship?? dunno... think im seeing it right ?.

I agree with that too @jonesy, the one on the prometheus looks way smaller than the bald guy, soooo, it conception is..it has to be a morphed david or halloway?

a plausible reason the helmet is in the med bay is due to the fact that they believed it to be a SJ skull due to the organic nature of it and upon discovering it's bio-mechanical makes them giddy for the possibilities tech they have just discovered EG, regenerating/customizable bio-armor