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nlpg
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 5:22 PMsomewhere on the web in a forum similar to this, never seen it before… might be fake? I found it on hollwoodhardware, the post was taken down not even 10 minutes after posting.
doesn't look like neville's artwork but could be a non-official sketch?
hints at david merging with some organic thing or whatever, becoming the clear-domed creature we all know. the concept makes sense in a way that the overall alien look has the same materials as the androids and spacesuits, thinking of translucent dome, tubes etc.
anyone?
http://tinypic.com/r/2vulpud/5
[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/2vulpud.jpg[/IMG]
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Xenomorph 54
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 5:25 PMI think that's fake. I hope the great prometheus twist isn't something obvious like david turning into the first xenomorph or something cheesy like that.
Anyway, good find, nlpg
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids?
They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...

Galzu
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 6:05 PMI dont know what to think....upon looking at the pic i immediately saw all the shots of david looking at things with glee and the scene of the xeno checking out the cat in the box at the end of Alien in my head.
Whats got me thinking is, do Weyland's Androids even have DNA? How would a bioformer even react to a "synthetic" substrate?
What wouldve happened if the facehugger attached itself to an Android?

Constealltion88
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 6:22 PM@galzu
Maybe thats the true mystery/horror/ twist of Prometheus?
Or maybe its goes to show how truly terrifying the SJs technology can be?
hmmmm?

nlpg
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 6:34 PMActually if you think about it, wie are Talking about engineers and Engineering New lifeforms in particular. And since Ridley Scott is apparently using a lot of gigers old pre-production work or is referencing to it, the biomechanoid elements might even be of a higher importance than in the alien sequels (think of the Alien becoming Gradually more organic than mechanic).
What if the whatsoever organism - or slime - adapts to any thinkable host, in this case the new creation of man, a machine-man, turning it into a totally new work of never before seen design.
Maybe David is the reason the alien is so durable and hostile because it is half a machine with no feelings?
Somehow it makes sense from a creature design point of view, and it follows the logic of the Prometheus myth, too: the gods take man's creation and turn it agains him.
Whether this image above is original or not, the theory it suggests is remarkable.

Constealltion88
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 6:45 PMSir Ridley also recently said in an interview on regarding what to take away from the title "PRometheus, Don't F*** with the gods" or something to that extent. I mean really, If i was walkin around a creepy ass pyramid on an alien planet and i saw some goo.....I'D TOTALLY MAKE DAVID TOUCH IT FIRST. just sayin.

artyoh
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 6:53 PMUnless someone on the crew had the brain of a hamster,[i] no one[/i] would touch it......but then, if people didn't do stupid things, there wouldn't be many stories to write or movies to make.

nlpg
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 6:58 PMMaybe they make David examine it, thinking nothing could happen to him. Only to find out that the worst happens?
Maybe we have two aliens here: space jockey parasites that enter holloway, transforming him and engineering slime that reacts with David.

Davefried81
MemberFacehuggerApr-06-2012 8:11 PMDavid totally is the starting point. I think that is why there is so much emphasis on him. The cross between the xeno and biomechanical all starts with David.
Big things have SMALL beginnings, hence the viral video of the birth of David.

silica
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 9:03 PMBut to make eggs will require a queen. Vickers will have to get infected, too.

Ghost Solitare
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 9:10 PMRidley didn't have a queen in Alien, his xenomorph was able to change Brett, and Dallas into eggs without one. If he's rewriting the story he won't need Cameron's Queen.

silica
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 9:18 PMI know, but I thought Aliens was still canon. Plus, changing those crewmembers into eggs was so silly, come on. They only put that scene back in for extended sequences in later versions. If everything RS intended was canon, then why don't we end the film with the alien killing Ripley?

sevensisters
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 9:29 PM@Galzu
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I dont know what to think....upon looking at the pic i immediately saw all the shots of david looking at things with glee and the scene of the xeno checking out the cat in the box at the end of Alien in my head.[/quote]
I am glad you mentioned this. I have been thinking this for weeks! I will be curious if that picture/clip of David looking at those "wiggling slugs" with what looks to be gleeful curiosity still comes across this way to me after I see the scene in context during the movie.

silica
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 9:37 PMThis is where the overall theme of King/Engineer wanting to be reborn, being visited by aging King/Engineer wanting secrets of universe (Weyland), each carrying their children (humans from SJ, robots from humans) does have eerie symmetrical logic. And probably weird consequences.
Were the SJ's waiting for us to bring them the next wave of evolution? Our robots? So they could have a go at them?
Ok then, what do you get if you use the SJ technology to infect a robot instead of a human? Do you get an SJ with silicon based skin and acid for blood? One without true feeling or remorse? A perversion of an SJ mixed with a robot? Is this why Ash was so interested in the discovery in ‘Alien’?
The facehugger and the apparatus David pulls from the canister share one aspect: they’re both probably devices to inject/impregnate. Oddly similar. The facehugger seems more life-like than the synthetic nanotech type claw thing in a canister. But, then again, what is a ‘living thing’? Really? Maybe that's the question of the movie (and oddly of Blade Runner as well).

draekus
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 10:32 PMStill not sure why some say David turning into a xeno would be cheesy. I don't car either way (like I've said before, I just want a great sci-Fi film), but many concepts/ideas have all been done before in one media form or another. Just because one of the crew may "turn" into something other than human doesn't automatically mean the movie is cheesy or that Ridley is simply rehashing used concepts.

Constealltion88
MemberOvomorphApr-06-2012 11:04 PMI still think that the true horror of the movie is that the Engineers are able to make what they want out of what they want. I still think that David and what happens to him will be a HUGE part to the overall story of this movie.

Svanya
AdminPraetorianApr-06-2012 11:14 PMI posted this link a few days ago. Seems the androids have Silicon based muscles. Ash said the facehugger he was examining was made of Silicon at least in part so... And like Constealltion88 says and I have said before, we know nothing about SJ tech, maybe they can make it work with anything no DNA required.
Click!--->[url=http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Synthetic]Android Biology[/url]

WhyDontTheyFreezeHim
MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 12:53 AMDavid is like Pinochio, he just want to be a real boy lol
But yeah, its strange because just last night I was thinking that maybe David is going to be cause of all the sh*t that goes down and eventually morph into a xeno. He seems VERY fascinated by the goo thing and stuff....and Ash himself was also fascinated by the xeno.
I also think our gods/creators(the space jockey) are pissed that we are playing god/trying to compete with god, by creating "life" ourselves(David)
I think David turns on us by unleashing the Jockeys tech.
Sounds kinda too cheesey and obvious though....

Famished
MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 2:25 AMCreators of our own destruction--It's what I've been saying all along, and not cheesy by any means. On the contrary, it's both brilliant and tragic.
No idea how it will play out, but it's been obvious from the Ted Talk, and the David8 commercial, that there is a distinct emphasis on the human creation of this android. One way or another, I'm betting he is integral to the plot.
As far as organic material goes, seems like a reasonable possibility given the current technology.

Prof
MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 2:28 AMHi! New here, this is my very first post. Two things that strike me about that tentative sketch of David's head transforming into a pseudo-Xeno head.
1. The elongated shape of the head reminds me not only of the classic Xeno head, but also of the slug-like creature we have seen slithering into the space suit of the unknown Prometheus crew in several of the trailers.
2. Is this Xeno-like face sketch the face we never get to see of the SJ like humanoid standing over a terrified Shaw at the very end of the extended US trailer?
Based on this, can we surmise that David is going to turn into a early form of the Xeno, setting the stage for the original Alien. Any thoughts?

Shane
MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 2:58 AMI greatly prefer the transformation scene that Ridley had to the Queen....thing. I hate the Queen idea. I like the limited lifespan idea as well. I am in the minority, but I also dislike all the sequels.
I really don't want a xeno at all. But if we get one this might be an interesting way to do it if done correctly.
CantSpaceJockTheRock
MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 4:20 AMHey guys I made [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2166]this post[/url] a while back that you might find interesting it proposes how David could infact be the progenitor of the xenomorph. I think it's very plausible that he is infected and becomes the original "Alien". Biomechanics yo!

nlpg
MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 5:13 AMIt also suggests, and this might be another theory:
David evolving thanks to the space jockeys versus holloway evolving thanks to the space jockeys.
It might be the battle of technology against mankind, creation against creator, all on a next level with the outcome that a fused species of both prevails - the perfect organism.
So what if the space jockeys are mere instigators of evolution that sit back and enjoy the spectacle?
But this time they make a mistake, and seeing the new horrors they created, thse beings try to escape, unknowing they have death aboard.
This second paragraph may be leaning out of the window too far but I see a sense in all this. It also gives sense to the variety of life forms we see in the trailers.

Gem]n[
MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 8:16 AMOk ... theory 1001 is
We Humans are Prometheus ... we give 'fire' to the Android (some how the poor sap gets infected) ... and it all goes Pete Tong ... game over :) ... running out of theories now ... thank god ... the straight jacket has just arrived from eBay ...
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