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Biggest Letdowns

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Constealltion88

MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 10:18 PM
I know that i am no tthe only one who has crazy unrealistic expectations and standards set for the film, which will undoubtely lead to some crazy...unrealistic....letdowns. I'm adressing mine now so i dont yell in the theatre. I'd be really let bown if... #1 The Mr.Blue guys are the main evil/horror of the film. #2 If the End has a typical over-the-top hollywood set up for a sequal in 2-3yrs type shite. Other possible letdowns to adress?
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Redleader

MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 10:42 PM
I having a hard time with the black veins taking over bodies. I have seen them use a lot of current horror flicks. I be watching the technology very closly, but I dont buy the fact the nostromo was old tech junk being used the in the future. Although there will be surviors, noone is going back to earth, so Part 2 a search party with "This time is War" theme since we getting owned pretty much in Prometheus. RS don't let me down as you did in Robin Hood.

craigamore

MemberOvomorphApr-07-2012 10:48 PM
Redleader...the old tech is on a commercial towing vehicle, not the top of a line corporate vessel like this the Prometheus.....think of it like stepping onto an oil refinery as opposed to a corporate jet.....

Redleader

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 12:00 AM
"M-Class Starfreighter, a rather expensive piece of hardware. 42 million in ajusted dollars minus payload" - DOS vs Touch Holo Screen, I hope you are right. The company is whinning about it 130 years later that it was top of the line?

Derp Derpington III

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:04 AM
The company is making an insurance claim and are exaggerating the numbers.

Mark Cawley

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:45 AM
Well i yelled when they messed up The THING lol

NoXWord

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:52 AM
Well, technology is not all about DOS vs touchscreens. As a matter of fact touchscreens are an advanced gadget in terms of HMI, hardly the herald of technology in a space ship. When they refer to expensive hardware they refer to engines (this ship has to travel FTL, land on a planet and take off again without any major setups!), life support systems, artificial gravity and tons of other "primitive" devices which usually cost unbelievable money to be Space Qualified and don't necessarily (or at all) require an iPad interface. And no one of those systems has been invented yet (or anyway is advanced enough). And aside from that, a refinery alone, no matter how old, dirty or whatever it appears, is worth BILLIONS of present day dollars.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:56 AM
My let down would be: Any hint of time travel Any thing to to with the SJs coming from Alantis Androids becoming the xeno Xeno species being created as a result of the crew

AlienAge11

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 4:15 AM
Ah, I get you. The concept of the crew travelling to the past, being used to breed xenos and then their offspring affect the crew's/humanity's future. One of those ironic twists that disobeys time travel paradox [url=http://alienage11.com]Alienage11.com[/url] - sight unseen

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 5:43 AM
@alienaged11 Yeah. I am hoping for a plausible story and not some far out movie based on some wacky scifi premise that tries to be to clever

AlienAge11

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 6:26 AM
Yep. The old 'mindbender' trick ;)

Forever War

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 10:36 AM
TheNextLV426 has named my one and only possible letdown for this film - time travel. I'm counting on Ridley Scott and admittedly fearing Damon Lindelof which from the start has been my only reservation about "Prometheus". No amount of spin or rationale from him can excuse the complete lie that surrounded the heart of "Lost," at least in my mind.

Necrofan

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 10:44 AM
In my opinion, Lindelof is a great MOVIE script writer. The problems with 'Lost' it sounds to me, were in the fact that the network wanted such a successful show to have an indefinite plot. And in network TV land, there's nothing better to keep from writing yourself into a corner, or to just cure an old fashioned case of writer's block, than a good ol' fashioned time warp. Or wormhole, or whatever you call it. Surely they can can give us 2 hours of original sci-fi without having to revert to a Planet of the Apes type ending.

Forever War

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 10:58 AM
Necrofan, I absolutely agree Lindelof is a great writer, talented no doubt and on "Lost" was conscripted to work in the confines of television, but he was part of a very bitter, to some, lie. And I hope that his work on Prometheus erases my perceptions, because he's very good at character developement. I'm sure he has more than time travel to go to in a pinch, and I'm hoping Ridley Scott has him on a leash.

Neurion

Veteran MemberMemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 11:26 AM
These things would be let downs for me: 1. The film suggesting or declaring that extraterrestrials are solely responsible for the origin or creation of mankind. However, I don’t mind the concept of extraterrestrial tampering or experimentation on primordial human genetics. 2. The alien vessel turns out to be same ship as the derelict in the original in the 1979 ALIEN film. 3. The planet featured in the trailer turns out to be Acheron/LV426, 30 years prior to the Nostromo landing. I’m pretty much game for anything else…including the humanoid being a kind of Space Jockey. In fact, I actually really like the idea of the humanoid being the “bad guy.” For me, the less human a character looks, the less terrifying it becomes…because it’s what we humans know. That is why films like The Exorcist, Night of the Living Dead, Halloween, Psycho, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, etc…were so successful, and have stood the test of time. IMO, The thing that made the original Alien creature so scary to so many, was its human qualities…more than its nonhuman qualities...its strangely familiar features, like its sinister, scull-like grin, its birth, its limbs, and its movements. Just like in the film “The Thing.” The final creature form was not nearly as horrifying as the earlier images of twisted human faces…or the infamous spider-legged head…“You gotta be fuckin’ kidding!” Ha! That line still cracks me up! ~N

CanadaPhil

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 1:11 PM
@Neurion I am with you completely on your MAIN 3 list. And to that, I will also put myself in the please GOD no flipping TIME TRAVEL column.. ever!! That is the most over-used and over-abused ridiculous "sci-fi" concept. The idea of "Time Dilation" is one thing.. but going forward or backward in time... Please.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 1:20 PM
wow Neurion I got some bad news for you. #1- It is almost a certainty that this film is going to explore who DID seed this planet. I think it's self-denial at this point to deny this. #2-If the Alien vessel turns out to be ANYTHING AT ALL OTHER THAN THE DERELICT FROM ALIEN...i will be severely annoyed because that would make ZERO SENSE...IT HAS TO BE THE DERELICT...IT HAS TO BE NEURION AT THIS POINT. i REALIZE IT could turn out not to be, but for me it would make 100% of ZERO SENSE for it to be anything BUT The Derelict. #3-If that planet is ANYTHING BUT LV-426 30+ YEARS BEFORE THE EVENTS OF NOSTROMO this film once again, will be making zero sense to me. I love you Neurion, and I am saying this with all due respect... I think you have ALL OF THIS BACKWARDS. IT HAS TO BE THOSE THINGS, THOSE VERY THINGS. ANYTHING ELSE WOULD MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL TO ME OR IN ANY FILM PORTRAYING THAT UNIVERSE.

CanadaPhil

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 1:28 PM
I dont agree at all Spart... With respect to # 1, that would then mean that we would vitually have to discount all that WE ALREADY know about our own evolution and the "versions" of us that existed before we got to "us". That "birth" of man scene or whatever it is?? ((Really no one even knows what the really meaning of that scene is yet)) shows something that looks MOSTLY like us now. It certainly doesn't show a hairy Neandertal or Cro-magnon human there with a big boney forehead and pronounced eyebrow line. So that then would either mean that the SJ's.. or whoever... WIPED out what should have been our "relatives" and completely replaced them about 50,000 years ago with us..... Or, maybe bluey black vein had to do the nasty with some really hairy half-woman/half-monkey cave girls... Hahahaha

RSAND

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 1:32 PM
I have to agree with TheNextLV426. I'm sick of time travel as a plot line but with so-called "hyper-light" drive vessels, perhaps it cannot be avoided. I also don't like the premise that Humans are the SJ's. I'd like to see a "stand-alone," non-human species or whatever remains of one. Please, no "Planet of the Apes" type ending.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 1:41 PM
i see it like this, if nothing else this film is going to present us with the idea that we were NOT the first group of people on this planet and we have been told over and over and over and over by Ridley Scott himself and everyone surrounding him how ignorant it has been of us to think that we were the first inhabitants of earth and that we were NOT seeded by some alien race, this is EXACTLY WHAT RIDLEY HAS WANTED TO EXPLORE ALL ALONG AND SAID HE WANTED TO EXPLORE ALL ALONG. THE VIDEO WE SAW YESTERDAY FROM SOME GUY WHO WENT OFF ON A RANT TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS FILM IS ABOUT IMO IS DEAD BANG ON THE MONEY. LASTLY i THINK A LOT OF YOU ARE DELIBERATELY SETTING YOURSELVES UP TO BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS FILM QUITE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NONE OF YOU WHO TAKE THAT STANCE HAVE BEEN LISTENING AT ALL VERY WELL TO THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT. IT IS ABOUT MUCH BIGGER THEMES THAN SOME OTHER RACE OR EXTRA TERRESTRIAL BEINGS, IT IS ABOUT WHAT THAT OTHER RACE HAS TO DO WITH US HUMANS HERE EVEN BEING ON EARTH. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HEARING WHAT RIDLEY SCOTT HIMSELF HAS BEEN SAYING ABOUT ALL OF THIS...AND IF IT TURNS OUT I AM WRONG I WILL WRITE A 12 PAGE APOLOGY THE DAY AFTER THE FILM IS RELEASED...I MEAN COME ON MAN...THE THING STARTS WITH EARTH PEOPLE LOOKING FOR CLUES TO THE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON EARTH ON EARTH AND THEN GOING TO THIS PLACE IN SPACE THEY THINK THEY'VE BEEN INVITED TO TO CONFRONT THIS VERY NOTION. WHERE HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN ALL THIS PAST 18 MONTHS? LMAO. JUST SAYING. I LOVE YOU GUYS ALL THE SAME BUT [b]IMO[/b] YOUR NOT JUST WRONG, YOU ARE WAY WAY WAY OFF TO START OFF WITH...TO EVEN CONSIDER THAT THIS ALL ISN'T ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF MANKIND.

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 1:58 PM
@Spartacus Actually I take the opposite view. RS has said on many many many occasions that Prometheus is NOT NOT NOT a prequel to Alien, so I think some of you guys will be up for major disappointment when Prometheus doesn't end with a xeno bursting out of the ribs of the SJ on a the derelict. If the movie ends that way then a) its a prequel, b) there is little scope for expanding the universe. The movie doesn't have to be set on LV426 or feature the same SJ to be part of the same Alien universe, but it does have to be set on LV426 and feature the same SJ to be a prequel. 60 days and well see :-)

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 2:04 PM
Here's, for me, the big thing he and those surrounding and involved in the making of it have said a dozen or so times now... [quote]It’s basically about trying to find out if there was intervention in the birth of civilization on planet Earth by other beings, which we come to know as Engineers, and whether they had a master plan in mind for us.[/quote]

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 2:36 PM
I have said this many times before but now I am going to say it again but in a much different way, if you want to have some understanding of what's going on in this film ON THE DAY YOU ARE WATCHING IT, right now, it would be a real real real real real great idea to start downloading or buying and watching every single Ancient Aliens episode starting with he Pilot episode. I say it's time for people to get ONE thing straight in their heads right now and accept it cause otherwise they ARE ALL GOING TO BE VERY DISAPPOINTED. This whole thing...all of it...revolves around the [b]ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORY[/b] !!! & There is just absolutely no denying this anymore now !!!

Guest

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 2:48 PM
Wait a minute, i heard SRS say he'd like to do a back story to Alien. From what i can remember of the interview (not quoting him exactly) he said something like he thought the SJs were an alien race that was at war with another alien race and the eggs were bio weapons created by the SJs to use against the enemy. I dont see any reason why Prometheus would not be a prequel to Alien. The alien ship in Prometheus is exactly the same as the Derelict in Alien. The alien when it gets suited up in the trailer looks exactly the same (minus the fosselisation) as the SJ in Alien, the big chair's the same and the fact that Wayland is in it. So i dont understand how it couldnt be a prequel! Maybe the blue blokes are the SJs enemy and the humans get caught up in the war?

Dutch

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 2:49 PM
Spartacus....I haven't seen those episodes you refer to but if they have anything to do with travelling through time, then that theory of yours can only be in one place...for me to poop on.

Guest

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 2:52 PM
@Spartacus Agree that its based on the ancient astronaut theory, I think that point is beyond question.

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:00 PM
@Spartacus Agreed about the ancient astronaut theory. I think that is beyond question. But as I mention above, the disappointment is going to come to those who expect the movie to be based around LV426 and that particular SJ.

Dutch

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:08 PM
The NextLV426....and the highly likely probability in my view that there's no Giger Alien...more than a bitter pill for a lot of people..not me.

TheNextLV426

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:14 PM
@Dutch I think that is why RS has gone to such lengths to distance the film from Alien because there is no xeno. If people turn up expecting the xeno then they are going to be disappointed. Personally I don't mind either way. I expect the film to be unmistakeably Alien without having a xeno running around.

whiskuz

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:32 PM
I dont necessarily want time travel either, but time is a dimension that can be moved through, back or forwards, theoretically. Worm holes are closely related to time travel and without them, or something else just as fantastic, we'll never see a planet outside of our solar system. So you better hope it's not just theoretical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-08-2012 3:56 PM
@Dutch, not to worry...Time travel is not part f the AA theory in general. The AA theory has nothing to do with Time Travel at all.
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