Prometheus takes place in LV-223!!!

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Opppsss.... all total spoilers.. lol. But fun to read! thanks!

skimmed through it for his basic feelings to avoid reading the spoilers. he says was very impressive. that's all i needed to know

HOLY CRAP MAN THIS FILM DOES TAKE PLACE [b]ON LV-223 AND NOT LV-426[/b]IT IS IMO THE WORST NEWS POSSIBLE AND IS SUCH A MASSIVE BONEHEADED RIDLEY SCOTT BLUNDER I AM IN COMPLETE SHOCK THAT SOMETHING THIS STUPID WOULD EVENB HAVE BEEN THOUGHT OF AND THAT ANGERS ME TO NO POSSIBLE END AND CHANGES EVERYTHING FOR ME AND IMO AS FAR AS THERE BEING ANY CREDIBILITY WHAT SO EVER WITH THIS FILM IN REGARDS TO THE ALINE FRANCHISE...IMO ...I FEEL IT IS RETARDED...MAKES ZERO SENSE AND IS A MASSIVE MISTAKE WITH REGARDS TO THE THE TIMELINE OF ALIEN ITSELF AND CHANGES NY ENTIRE VIEW OF THIS FILM AS ANY TYPE OF MASTERPIECE OR FILM THAT CAN BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!!! !! I AM SO VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS...SO NOW I AM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT THAT ARE ANY AMOUNT OF AND ALL KINDS OF DERELICTS ON ALL KINDS OF MOONS SURROUNDING LV-426 AND THIS IS STARTING TO SOUND LIKE WAR OF THE WORLDS AFTER ALL! Jonesycatpants 8:01AM Karma: 1524 Catpower So, we’ve just been lucky enough to see a chunk of Prometheus footage, followed by a Q&A hosted by Empire Magazine’s Chris Hewitt and featuring direct Ridley Scott and stars Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender and Charlize Theron, at press event held by 20th Century Fox in London’s Leicester Square. The footage lasted about 15-20 minutes, and consisted of mainly of completed scenes, both extensions of bits we’ve seen in the various trailers, and new stuff, before merging into what seems to be a slightly modified version of the International trailer footagethat we have all seen by now. Before the screening began, we were told that we were the first people outside Fox to see the footage. The following descriptions come from my hastily scribbled (in the dark) notes, and memory, so my apologies in advance if they seem a bit disjointed. The footage opens on the Isle of Skye in the year 2089(?) and is a longer version of the opening of the International trailer, with Shaw and Holloway on an archaeological dig and uncovering the pictogram/constellation we have seen already. Cut to the year 2093, and the Prometheus glides through space. David the android walks alone on the ship, which suddenly judders to a halt – it appears to have reached its destination. David goes to the bridge and fires up all the systems before going to wake the crew from stasis, only to find that Vickers (Theron) is already up and finishing what looks like a punishing exercise regime. Ever the hard-nosed business woman, her only question to David is ‘did anyone die?’ After seeing the crew recuperating from their hypersleep, including some copious vomiting from Shaw, we cut to the Prometheus’s hanger. Here we see a hologram video message from Peter Welyand, recorded in 2091. If you are watching this now, he says, “I’ll be dead, may I rest in peace”. He uses his recording to introduce Shaw and Holloway and they then give their talk shown in the trailers, though extended here. To paraphrase – “The constellation shown in the pictograms was so far away that the there is no way the civilisations that appear to have made them could have known about it, but we do. We know it has a sun, and we know it has an Earth-like planet. And this is where we are now.” That planet is LV-223. Next we get some new shots of the Prometheus landing, and an extremely clear shot of the ‘mountain’ structure previously glimpsed. Now, while we have said that this reminds us of the work that Giger did for an abandoned adaptation of Dune (see below), in the shot here it’s unmistakeable. It’s missing the ‘arms’, but the ‘head’ and face are clearly visible in profile. Here’s where we cut back to more familiar ground, consisting mostly of the international trailer footage with maybe a few tweaks here and there, though nothing real note. I have to say it was all very impressive. The footage looked fantastic – Scott has hit a visual home run on this one, without a doubt. I’m not a fan of 3D at all, but I must say it works well, not drawing attention to itself, but definately pulling you into the movie. This could be the movie that changes my mind about – well utilised – 3D. The old age makeup on Guy Pearce is also very well done. It may have been helped by the hologram VFX, or it could even be CGI-enhanced, but it looked very natural and didn’t interfere with his performance. I’m also now more convinced that ever that, despite the character saying otherwise, he is very much alive and more or less well when the Prometheus lands on LV-223, and that the images below do in fact show Weyland. Did he get to LV-223 before the Prometheus, and the crew find him there? Guy Pearce? Next up was the Q&A. Empire’s Chris Hewitt took charge, as a few lucky audience members go to ask questions. We’ve been promised a full transcipt along with some clips of the session, so in the meantime here’s a few highlights I picked out, along with my thoughts. Scott commented on what brought him back to the Alien universe – The sequels had not explored the biggest question – who was was the Space Jockey, why did he have that cargo, and where was he headed with it? The Alien sequels were “all jolly good, in one for or other”. While the project started as an Alien prequel, the more he got involved in another story, the “less inclined I was” to connect it to Alien. Noomi Rapace calls he character conflicted. Shaw is a scientist with a faith in God – her search for the origins of man-kind doesn’t lead where she expects. Michael Fassbender didn’t rewatch Ian Holms or Lance Henkrikson’s performances, but instead looked to Blade Runner and Lawrence of Arabia amongst other for inspiration and clues for his performance. Scott said there is a lot of humour in David’s character – I did get a certain sense of deadpan wit Fassbender’s performance – and that we “are allowed to laugh”. Theron said that Vickers starts the film as detatched and cold – I guess that will change – and is neither a believer or scientist, but is there for a personal reason – does she know that Weyland is on LV-223? Is she related to him? Scott spent 4 and a half months working with production designer Arthur Max and his team before the film was even greenlit to get the designs locked down. Scott was then asked a quesiton about the rating of the original Alien, but his answer was a more general one. Starting with a half-joking “I want a certificate that’s best for the box office”, he made a valid arguement that it’s in everyone’s interest to make a film that is as accessible to as big an audience as possible. After all, he pointed out, if a studio doesn’t make its money back, there are no movies. Even if a rubbish film is a hit, overall it’s a good thing. I have to say, as much as I’d like to see a full-on R/18 rated Prometheus, I understand completely that studios are running a business – Scott himself said is a director and a business man. Given that movies like The Woman in Black and The Hunger Games are pushing boundries at the lower rating, I don’t think we should be too worried if Prometheus ends up a PG-113/12A – after all, there’s always the likely uncut video release. Scott promised that Rapace has a scene ‘equivalent’ to Alien’s chestburster, that no other actor was involved in. Finally, touching on his use of 3D, Scott seemed to dismiss those who say it adds too much complexity to shooting. As a strong visual director, Scott says, he found 3D “pretty straightforward”. Overall I came away very impressed. The look and feel of the footage we saw was excellent, while the director and stars seemed really enthusiastic about the film. So what did we learn? Nothing massively earth shattering, though many peoples’ suspicions that the movie does not take place on LV-426 appear confirmed. Perhaps Scott’s regular comments that the last few minutes of the film will tie to Alien will see a change of location. Perhaps the ‘derelict’ we see crashing is not the same one that appears to be taking off when we see the giant ‘hanger doors’ open under Shaw’s feet in the trailers, and it’s this second ship that the crew of the Nostromo find? As I said, we have been promised a full transcript of the chat, which will hopefully make a bit more sense, and we’ll get that online as soon as we have it! Prometheus is directed by Ridley Scott, from a screenplay by Damon Lindelof and Jon Spaihts. The film stars Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Charlize Theron, Guy Pearce, Idris Elba, Sean Harris, Rafe Spall, Logan Marshall-Green, Patrick Wilson and Kate Dickie, and is due for release on June 8th 2012 in the USA, and June 1st 2012 in the UK. http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/04/prometheus-footage-screening-and-qa-report/

^^^^^ Spart.... Was that rant for real or tongue in cheek? Have another coffee. : )

ALSO, SO THE 2ND LEAKED PLOT LINE WAS COMPLETELY ACCURATE EXCEPT FOR THE NAME OF THE PLANET THE DERELICT WAS ON? MY G-D WHAT A MESS THEY HAVE CREATED WITH THIS !!! I AM SO ANGRY I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO CALL TE PLANET LV-223 WITH A DAMNED STRAIGHT FACE NOW...OMG... I JUST CANNOT WAIT TO SEE HOW EVERYONE EXPLAINS AND TRIES TO WIGGLE OUT OF THIS COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL BONEHEADED MOVE.

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http://www.totalfilm.com/news/prometheus-footage-reveal-report This morning saw the world's first screening of 3D footage from Prometheus at the Vue cinema in London's Leicester Square. We at Total Film were lucky enough to get a look at it, as well as attending a Q & A with both director and cast, and if possible, we're even more excited than we were before… We were treated to approximately 13 minutes of footage comprised of a series of scenes setting up the film's premise. Naturally, if you don't want to know anything before going in, you should probably stop reading now. First up was a sequence set on Scotland's Isle of Skye, in which research scientists Noomi Rapace and Logan Marshall-Green discover some peculiar markings on the wall of an old cave. Surmising that the etchings make reference to a race of extra-terrestrial beings, Rapace make the fateful proclamation that, "I think they want us to come and find them." Hmmm… The next scene was set upon the good ship Prometheus in the year 2093, with Michael Fassbender's placid android, David, attending to a pushup-performing Charlize Theron. "Were there any casualties?" she asks him casually, as she completes her workout. David confirms that there were not. She's referring to the awakening of the ship's research crew from their stasis chambers, having spent a whopping two and a half years in there before being roused. Straight off the bat it seems as though Theron's character, a suit from the Weyland Corporation, is a very cold fish indeed. Intriguingly, Theron revealed after the screening that her character is initially detached from the mission, but has actually got a very personal reason for being there. Curioser and curioser... We're briefly introduced to various crew members (including Idris Elba's scene-stealing badass, the pilot, Janek) before a hologram of Peter Weyland introduces the lead scientists and congratulates them on the mission ahead. As suggested by his TED talk, it's to be one of discovery. He also makes reference to David the android, describing him as "a son" before referring to his absence of a soul. David looks a bit hurt. It's then the turn of Marshall-Green and Rapace to explain the mission ahead, referring to their cave-based findings and revealing their discovery of a planet with its own moon, capable of sustaining life. That's where the crew are heading. Sean Harris makes a snide comment scoffing about the veracity of cave paintings, leading us to believe his card may well be marked… The final sequence showed us Prometheus coming in to land on the aforementioned planet, with Elba revelling in centre stage, firing off one-liners and generally chewing the scenery to great effect. It was probably the most visually arresting sequence in a film that promises to be extremely easy on the eye. The stage duly set, we were then shown a brief sizzle reel, re-capping some of the footage from the trailer, and generally showing all hell breaking loose. There was a very brief glimpse of something alien-like (although not particularly similar to a Xenomorph), the revelation that that giant head "is moving", and a deliciously icky moment involving one crew-member's eye… All in all, we were fairly blown away by proceedings. Although the bulk of the film's action was kept firmly under wraps, there was enough to suggest this will be quite the spectacle. Pleasingly, the 3D (filmed on the super-crisp RED camera) is of the layered, innocuous variety, never appearing distracting but adding real depth to some breathtakingly beautiful space-vistas. Indeed, we could have sat staring at the view from the ship's bridge all morning, had we been given the chance... In a brief Q & A after the screening, Ridley Scott revealed a few more tidbits about the project, explaining how Alien's Space Jockey scene was the whole jumping-off point for the film. Who was that figure, why was he there, why was he bearing that specific cargo and where was he heading? He and his kind might have wanted to be found, but not for the benevolent reasons believed by Rapace's character… As for the connection between the two films, Scott explained that the link is "barely in its DNA", reasserting that the film is a standalone piece. However, he did admit that the connection becomes more apparent in the films final seven minutes... Scott also dropped one final, mouthwatering teaser, promising that there will be a scene in Prometheus that serves as a counterpart to Alien's chestbuster moment. It involves Noomi Rapace, but that's all we know. Some things are best kept as a surprise… Prometheus opens in the UK on 1 June 2012. It just became our most-anticipated film of the year.

@CANADAPHIL, SORRY MAN, I AM GENUINELY PISSED AND CANNOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD RUIN THINGS LIKE THIS. IF THAT'S A DIFFERENT JOCKEY IN A DIFFERENT DERELICT ON A DIFFERENT PLANET IN THAT SAME SYSTEM MEANING THE ONE ON LV-426 IS STILL THERE WHERE WE SAW IT IN ALIEN, THAN WE HAVE ONE MASSIVE CREDIBILITY ISSUE HERE. someone please tell me the whole thing takes place on lv-223 and then they all travel to lv-426 and there is only one derelict !!! PLlllllllleeeeeaaaassssseeeeee someone confirm this for me.

What if WEYLAND turns out the be the creator of the Xeno all along? What if he had actually preceeded the Prometheus to LV223 30 years prior on the HELIADES and finding this advanced "life creating" materials set about tinkering for himself to create a "perfect ogarnism"? This is what the wrath from the overlords is all about? They find that he has mocked them and tried to play God himself and set about to not only punish all those involved but make us suffer as well?

Well, if true that this isn't LV426, that would explain the cleaner and sunnier atmosphere of the planet. But if so, that leaves us with the idea that these massive, monolithic SJ ships just have a nasty habit of crash-landing on multiple planets. Regardless of the advanced technology, I guess these SpaceJockeys just make for lousy pilots!

Lousy Pilot? or a Hero? Perhaps it was sent on a mission it did NOT want to complete. Maybe this actual creature, is in fact a very benevolent one like the myth of 33 years has always assumed?

sorry i am so freaked but the credibility of this film means the world to me and we gotta be missing something here, there cannot be more than one Derelict and if there is we are All Wrong About Everything and Ridley's gone off on a terrible Tangent AND that 2nd faked plot line leak was 100% correct and we know the whole film already.

Spartacus, Sorry to hear that.... but why does it matter? I'm not following on how it makes a mess of everything. Thanks

Its alright with me seems to be in the neighborhood anyway. I am more interested in the Weyland story. He's starting to remind me of Charles Foster Kane for some reason.

Why did you think it started on LV-426 in the first place? I always assumed that the film ended on LV-426 but started on a seperate planet hence the waterfall at the beginning of the trailer.

hey maybe the temple is in 223 but the derelict crashes on 426 no?!

@Danrald because it would mean that aside from the Space Jockey we know of already probably being at his home world, if it does not all move to LV-426 it means we are all suppose to believe that 2 Identicle Jockeys are crash Landed on 2 separate Moons of that system in the exact same way, it also suggest maybe even more...which is sooo rediculous I do NOT even know where to begin. They have to be moving to LV-426 for the end of the film or the whole thing is LOST. It also would mean I can tell you the entire plot right now because this was the idea almost verbatim presented in the 2nd faked leak plotline, which also means the Derelict was on route to earth to drop ship a cargo of Xenomorphs already created from the vials and not as Eggs but for immediate terraforming all the same and that the vials contain the viscous green liquid encoding for every single life form in the universe and the Space Jockeys are the creators of mankind.

Yes lots of stories in Prometheus.. Matter of fact, I'm relieved that it is not LV-426.. lol.

[cough]Knew it was LV-223 ... :) ... [cough] Mostly wanted it to be a different planet more than anything else ... I ain't sayin' another thing ...

What I got out of the info: 1. Some of it said they change location later on, meaning i assume we end up on LV426 at some point, since it is in the area. 2. I don't think Shaw's birthing is the "chest burster" scene anymore, they say there is a scene on a closed set that only she has scene. I am thinking this is the last 10 minutes of the movie. 3. There is a quote floating around somewhere that the last 10 minutes is a pretty good alien movie. The LV thing doesn't bug me at all. It's a movie. It sure bothers me less then the Cameron lifecycle, which I think ruined the monster for me entirely.

there ya go, so I guess there is no reason to panic because you all believe like me that this whole thing has to be moving to lv-426 for the end of this film. That The derelict is NOT on LV-223...right????????????

What are you talking about Spart? Who says 2 indentical jockeys "crash landed" on 2 separate moons? The one we see in the trailers (if we can take it at face value) is FORCED down by human hostile action. And whos to even say that this is their home world... For a culture that is 100,000's of years beyond us, it seems like a pretty spartan place does it not... a couple temples...no other infracsture really... This planet could be nothing more than a holding repository of sorts... simply for keeping their potential dangerous "life building blocks" from accidently combining or doing something that was not intended.. It could be nothing more than a biolab and quarantine facilities for all we know.

if their were more than one Derelict that would mean the system was probably their home world to begin with.

I agree Shane, having the lifecycle where the Alien cocoons them to turn into eggs is very 'alien' and extremely creepy. I am hoping so much for really creepy things from this movie, the thought of a transformation of your own body is terrifying!

I guess I am completely over reacting to this and I have to be right, most of the film takes place there, but the whole thing moves to LV-426 for the end {last 8 mins} of this film...and that's what Ridley Meant!

I really don't give a shit if they end up on LV426 or not as long as the story is interesting.

Spartacus, Well, I do understand that it seems that 2 ships crash on a moon to be silly. But we don't actually know what happens to the Promethues derelict in the end. But I can guarantee you that the 2nd faked leaked plotline is not real.. actually I don't even remember it... lol. But there still is a chance that some of it will take place on LV-426, or it will be implied.

OK, well shouldnt the planet of the "God-like" things be something more than a desolate barren rock?

Here's for Planet hopping ... now 'that's' an Adventure ... makes more sense really ... :) ...

@Shane -> I do, they have to end up there, the Derelict Has to be there, it's where they found it originally.

i am just so disappointed because I believe WE/I know the entire plot and story right now and it bothers me to no end this does going into any film to no end.

Im with Gem.... Never thought this place was LV426 all along. The intriguing bits now, are what is the actual implication of WEYLAND's role in all of this. I had always figured it was David who would be the one to upset the apple cart... but Im now thinking its something Weyland does. I now think that Weyland has actually preceeded the Prometheus on the HELIADES.... but the Prometheus crew find him 30 years later.. and he has either found a way of prolonging himself a little longer, or he is cocooned or in some form of stasis and in revived... Let the mayhem begin. PS: This talk of the "Fake Leaked" plotline and it now being just like it? What does that mean. I never looked at the supposed "leaked" script... How is this 100% like it without getting into a long winded talk over a "fake" script. Is 100% just like it a slight exaggeration?... The Q&A only showed about 15 total minutes of the movie which is probably going to be 150+ minutes long!

YUP.

it explains how he got on Prometheus too...you guys can do your calculation, i know for sure, and come up with it the way I have...we know the entire story now, big bad company rides yet again.

The moon was once a part of Earth. What if LV-426 was once a part of LV-223? Something displaced a large chunk where the derelict is and threw it in the air. The derelict seems to be indestructible so could it have survived and formed on the surface of this new planetoid. Also I read somewhere that the Zeta 2 Reticuli system appears to be moving. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Herculis_Moving_Group]Zeta Herculis Moving Group[/url] If the Spacejockeys are controling the movements of an entire system they are working on maybe loosing control of that could be catastrophic in many ways. Just some out of the box thinking. : )

Janek I read the title of this post, which I didn't read the content...and then I saw below your post NoX's post... Why couldn't you show the class NoX did and leave out a real possible spoiler? Why put that in the header? I put the 2 together and realized an event had gone down and more info was in the wild, but do really think everyone wants hard info? Conjecture and theory...fine. Being the first little weenie on the block....MAJOR FAIL

great stuff, this thing just got way way crazy and some of those whacked out theories you guys were throwing around may even be a part of all this...but one thing is certain now and it's that WEYLAND and their TED web site just got a Massive Kick In The Pants.

Further on new "whacked out" theories... That sort of human sized, but diffinately NOT human thing attacking Shaw and her now well known... D I E E E E E E E EE E !!! Well, thats NOT David, or Holloway, or another crew member... but what happens to the old bastard himself... That is Peter Weyland attacking Shaw.

Grrrr.... typos! hahaha. Whats up with this interface.. Sometimes when I try to go back in to correct something, I only see a box full of html coding with no way to fix the text??