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Ok, so we know that if they don't stop the chain of events there won't be a home to go back to. We also know that Earth is quite alright,,they must succeed. Which leaves me to conclude 1 of 2 things... 1) The engineer is a singular entity, otherwise just call in someone else to do the job no? Down one ship, surely there's more that could finish the job. The SJ on LV426 is likely to be this same one they stop 2) One SJ of many goes rogue Actually a 3). One of the humans mutates into a SJ and loses it Then there's the why. What are they/it so scared of? We must be, or our DNA, a danger to either ourselves or the engineers.

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I don't get the impression the Engineer is scared in the slightest. If indeed that's whats running this whole show, it's something they were doing for EONs before we showed up and laid our cards on the table. Never play poker with an opponent that invented the game, you'll only find out that the rules have changed. To more directly address your question, it's not supported yet by what we've seen, but what the Engineer does best is alter/manipulate. I should clarrify and say that his technology does that. By whatever means neccessary, I think the Prometheus survivors are thinking that whatever has been happening to them will be echoed on a planetary scale back home if that ship reaches Earth.
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It's only going to get loopy from here on in kids, buckle up for a nasty ride.
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Food for thought... What if we HUMANS ONLY exist on Earth and virtually no other place throughout the entire Universe, and this secret has somehow been kept from the "Gods" or Engineers until we literally show up one day and they realize that a part of their actual "essence" has been stolen from them in order to create us. The "essense" of the Blue Meanies was taken by their servants or slaves, the "Jockeys" who "moulded us from clay" so to speak... so the Jockey is the literal "PROMETHEUS" of this story... we humans are just that... HUMANS... and the Engineers are the "GODS".
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I think they have a fair point. But everything would be cool if the ship didnt embark on a couse with Earth to begin with! If they engineered us in the first place; why then try and destroy us. Looking forward to.the answer On another note, I always thought that RS was being emotive when he said this film would share the same DNA with Alien, ie it would simply be in the same universe and explain the SJ for example, but not be a prequel as such. That was my first impressuon at least, but it looks more and more likely he has been quite literal all along?
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CanadaPhil....nail on the head as far as Im concerned!
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@ JP - Maybe they created us for slave purposes...or for science purposes. We humans create various lifeforms and then destroy it without thought all the time. Just because they have created us(if they have), doesnt mean they have to care about us. Im really looking forward to finding out too.
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The space jockeys/engineers are our creation in the first place.I think Pw visited the planet prior to the prometheus armed with a bit of nanotech,beotech and some synthetics as per the "Ted" trailer. Either Pw dies or the synthetics take control. The large head is their God/Creators- Us! In the sense that we created synthetics i think that they have now evolved so much and and trying to create their own creations-the xeno morphs. They dont see what they are doing as wrong and are trying to get back to Earth to where their beginnings are, but if they do will ultimitaley lead to our destruction.
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My belief is that it was Punishment for Theft ! The SJ Race Were going along all fine and dandy with their universal plans and seeding the galaxy and even considering NOT TERRA-FORMING EARTH until we stuck our noses where they did not belong, and went even further and took something{s} that did not belong to us!
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I really hope that Terra forming has nothing to do with it as that was part of the plot for "Aliens". I mean thats what all these families were doing-trying to make the planet habitable. By the sounds of it,they werent very good at it as no planet in the "Alien" series as far as i was aware was habitable. Again, i dont think these Sj's/Engineers are nothing more than our own creation- Just that they are Synthetics which we have created and have evolved so much---Certainly no Gods!
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An early draft script rumor had the Jockeys at first delighted that we had progressed as far as we had as we were the first to find them. They gave us a tech gift and sent us home. That was not enough and someone stole the terra forming tech and set the bad chain of events into motion.
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There was no early draft script rumor. That was fan fiction, presented by the author as fan fiction back in August.
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Might add that i dont thibk SJs and engineers necessarily need to be seperate species but the rationale and motive for going to Earth to wipe us out seems bang on. Still dont understand why it failed. Only one SJ? The shot of the humanoid with the saucer leaving is interesting. Were humans created or engineered by him at this point? Ws he left there as punishment, hence the warning or pictograms to us from him? Bring it on boys, stoked we might have an epic on our hands here!
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WoW, @ those that say the SJ's are OUR creation... I respectfully say THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETE B.S. If that were the case we would have the technology the Space Jockeys do ourselves. We would have our own little Derelict Machine and Star Map and "ampules" ...lmfao...somewhere on earth.
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I was thinking about the whole stole their technology thing......sounds plausible....if they were like omnipotent ..perhaps they deem having technology to advanced for us like dangerous for evolution..of the universe...a bit like the prime directive in star trek. And maybe they've had to punish before..think sodom and gammora...i know daft isn't it.
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I've been trying to reconcile the ( apparent ) end of this movie, with the fact that we're still here afterwards. Unless the pilot of the ship is really stupid and KIA when it stops rolling ( not buying that ) why doesn't it just send out a transmission to any other living SJs that it's time to drop the proverbial bio-bomb on our watery abode? Unless there's only one SJ left lurking about, and the ship actually can't take off again.......or what's left of the crew, offs it.....but then, that would dead-end the entire story-line. Something isn't adding up.
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Spartacus, Only my opinion mind but does Peter Weyland not say in the "Ted" trailer that "We are the Gods now"? I think that if the Sjs do get back to Earth with this technology it will be the End as this technology would lead to Imortality by means of a Synthetic race. The xeno morphs we see in "Alien" i think will also turn out to be our creation (created by "Prometheus") as a means to wipe out the Sjs. Are you saying that it is too far fetched..lol that Pw arrives on LV426 in say 2050 with a few Synthetics armed with nanotech a bit of biotech and helps create these Sjs?? Or These Sjs are really Gods going about with a large human head in there Space ship Tera forming planets? and by all accounts are not very good at it. Just my opinion mind.
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aboslutely, and he says it in reference to the advancements mankind has made with regard to technology.
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the reason I do not think this is possible {what you just wrote up there}is that I am positive Scott has stated many times and I have it in print as well, that the Xenomorphs were/are a Weapon of the SJ's design, the idea being the eggs are nothing more than deliberate Cargo like BOMBS to be used in Terra-Forming {also that the Xenos were derivative of them}and even later...potentially dropped on Earth. But specifically that the Xeno was another races creation and who's intended primary purpose was for use as Weapon!
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Has anyone thought about who sent the distress call in alien?
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with regard to what you wrote above Ridley Scott has stated for the record many many many times that his take is that the SJ race is using the Eggs primarily as a Terra-forming Weapon. That they are little less than cargo-Like Bombs intended to use their contents, the genetic code of the xenomorph, primarily as a type of WEAPON.
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@ jedi master - I think thats a very interesting idea! Kinda hope it isnt true though.
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@jedi The loop hole with you theory is the 3 subsequent films where the company have been trying to obtain a specimen. It they created it they wouldnt need to collect
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@thenextlv426 The company never created it. I think a member of Prometheus creates it as a weapon to kill the Sjs or whatever the Sjs are creating. Fight fire with fire so to speak. I see the xeno morphs as a modern day dinosaur. A creature able to wipe out mankind. As "Ash" staes in Alien..... "the perfect organism only matched by its hostility" Also.. "Ash" also new of the xenomorphs existence in Alien. "All other protocols recinded.Bring back Lifeform" As Ridley Scott has stated himself that only the last 7 or 8 minutes of Prometheus has any Alien Dna , this leads me to believe that the xeno morph is not created until the end of Prometheus. What creatures/transforming crew members we see throughout Prometheus will be something else. just my opinion mind.
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@thenextlv426 Not really. We are talking about the "perfect organism only matched by its hostility" very hard thing to collect. These Sjs or Sj creations are going to be on a par with the "Borg" from star treck but much much more......
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"Only my opinion mind but does Peter Weyland not say in the "Ted" trailer that "We are the Gods now"?" Weyland is refering to how he has created a artificial inteligent person. i.e the Synthetic Andriods like David. The creation by us could be the Xeno, where the crews tampering and experimenting with the Jockeys Bio Forming Technology creates the Xeno or the Proto Xeno. Maybe the Derelict leaves with the Canisters and no Eggs, but maybe somehow the Squid Baby gets on board that ship and infects the Jockey and then some other events after that leads to the creation of the Eggs, or if not the Squid maybe David or both? We need to look at what Ridley said... 1) He made this movie to explore the Who was in the Chair, what was the Ship and its purpose, what was the Cargo and its purpose. He never said for 100% sure but he always hinted in that he said "what if, or supose that Guy was a Space Suit, and the Eggs the Ships Cargo, a kind of Bio Weapon, the Derelict some kind of Bomber" 2) A very interesting qoute was when they said this movie will be how the Xenos "Mother met the Daddy" this to me sugests that the actual Xeno is created or indeed the Proto Xeno is created in this movie. 3) Ridley sugested the last 8 minutes of this film will clear up the connection to Alien, we will see the Alien DNA. These are all very interesting things and may hold more clues than the actual mish mash of scenes in the trailers, i doubt Ridley would play or show scenes in a fasion that would get us to guess whats going on. The trailers have hardly scratched the surface.

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Again we need to pay close attention to what Ridley has said, and not the scenes in the Trailers.... The movie started as a direct prequel to Alien.... but then once you explained how the Xeno was created, who the Jockey was, what the Derelict was and its purpose. You then get to the last scene that shows the Derelict land/crash on LV426. Do you show then the Chest Burster Scene... if so then there would be no scope for a Part 2 as Part 2 is Alien, if it does not show the Chest Burster scene then how do you do a Part 2 and a whole 2nd movie that must cover what happens between the Derelict landing on LV426 to when the crew of Nostromo found the Ship. Thats why Ridley went and re did the Script so while it can tie up the connection to Alien, it would also have a more back bone Story to it and other events than just all about the Xeno from Alien. This would allow a open end so that a part 2 can explore a number of posibilties unrelated directly to the Xeno. Hence maybe the Ancient Astronaught elements, the Prometheus tie in. Prometheus was a Titan, the other Ancient Civilisations in movie show Egyption and Sumerian Tablets etc, then look at the figure in the cave painting. They all depict God like Creators who resemble Humans only they stand about double our height. Coinsidence that the Blue Guys/Engineers look Human? These ancient beleafs all had Man created from Mud/Clay in the Gods own image. The movies plot line is based around our search for the orgins of Mankind, but we could find our downfall. Ridley also said the crew was hopping to find a civilised race, but find a race of Bio Mechanical beings doing things that are not civilised. Read into that what you will. But i think that it would point to that one Engineer had created us without the consent and maybe knowledge of his brothers.... Surfice to say when we turn up, they then know what one of their kind had been upto and when we start to mess about with their Technology or steal it, well that just gets them mad and then they decide we got to go

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I wonder if the Jockeys are a dying race, hence the King dying bit. They are trying to save their race anyway they know how, and we upset the process so they decide to take it our on Earth.
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@bigdave its the chicken or the egg really isnt it ?? Did we create the Sjs or did they create us? I personally think that we created them. Is it also coinsidence that we find a star map in some cave in Scotland(thats where im from by the way lol), travel to this far away planet and discover a space craft which seems dormant. I say dormant as we can clearly see the Prometheus crew wandering about initially with no sign of life. No Gods in any culture are bio mechanical to my knowledge? I get what your saying in regards to how a trailer is edited not to give away the story. BUT......... Why make Peter Weyland English? Is this not to protray him as arogant? "if you induge me,i would like to change the world" Do you have another explanation for whats said throughout the "TED" viral add? The families in Aliens are terra forming the planet Lv223 and we know that the company havnt got there hands on any xeno morphs or Sjs at this time so the terra forming must of been PWs idea in the first place. Hence " if you indulge me i would like to change the world".
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"If you indulge me,i would like to change the world" The whole Ted viral add gives a lot away in my opinion. Pw is protrayed to be an Englishman...Why??? Is this to show him as arogant?(im Scottish by the way lol) I totally agree with Bigdave on a lot of things especially how Trailers are edidted to give a different picture, however some of the scenes easily give away part of the plot. Shaw and Holloway discover a star map in Scotland, leave for a distant planet and discovers a dormant space craft with a big human like head. Coinsidence? Not likely! Reminds me of the planet of the apes to tell you the truth. All this talk of Terra forming........I ask you this.. In Aliens, human families are terra forming the planet Lv223 to make it habitable. As we know that Weyland havnt gotten their hands on any Sj tech or xeno morphs at this time then was terra forming not Weylands idea in the first place?
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Also the possibility that it's just human hubris to think that the jockeys care about humans or Earth at all. It's all assumption, on the part of the Prometheus crew, and apparently, much of the audience. Hubris will always assume that you are more important than you truly are. Just possibility. We create our own destruction. And, yeah, I think Jedi Master is one of the few that really gets it. The giant human head isn't explained by anything other than the idea that "we are the gods." Amazes me that so many people dismiss this. On a small scale you see it starting with David--the idea that he can transcend his existence, or perhaps, become more human. On a larger scale, well, that can extrapolate a number of ways.
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Yes I think the xenos are a form of bio-sterilant. A bit like using phage as an antibiotic (think they did that in Eastern European hospitals back in the day). So it is plausable that the SJs use xenos to 'ready' planets for their uses. Where do the Blue Man Group and the murals fit in..?

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